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Warren had typical TE safety blanket type numbers against Wisconsin. They were not going to allow him to wheel route or drag across the middle or seam route them. We took what they allowed. Would have liked to see a couple of long balls, but maybe they were palying so deep that it was not even tried.

If it is Beau going, he's gotta watch going over the middle this week as a couple of the balls he put in there for big completions will be picked this week. He was a little late in delivering the ball (plus he has a good arm but not Drew's). He sometimes waits for the guy to get open before delivering which can be too late. The impressive play was the deep slant to Clifford which he fit between the two backers. That was tight on time. He's gotta take risks or we end up with last years offense against OSU and that was not pretty.

Pitchfork Rebel said:

The digital economy is weird. I used to regularly go to a site called "anandtech.com" which was originally started by a teen ager (Anand Lai Shimpi) in the late 90's. About ten years ago he announced he was retiring at age 32, one commenter said that means going to work for the bitten fruit, and just now, the digital publishing company that bought it announced it was shutting down. I had totally forgotten about it until I read it was gone with all the tech youtubers out there...

I suppose we've all said "screw it" and just walked away from a job, a girl, a hobby..

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Ha, deep pull! I used to go to Anandtech!

kingslayer_85 said:

Seems like a lot of folks are more interested in making excuses for David losing.

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So what is your point? What do you think wrestling fans should be more interested in and discussing on a wrestling forum?

Pointing out facts such as age difference, and the different weights where the wrestlers have achieved success in the past is totally relevant in analyzing why David Taylor was dominated. So is the fact that David Taylor is the head coach of OSU and may not be 100% dedicated to training. There is absolutely nothing wrong with fans discussing why they think a loss occurred, even if the reason can be labeled as an "excuse." The only people who should not be allowed to make such observations are those who state and believe that "excuses are for wusses." I, for one, as a fan believe it is totally appropriate to discuss how injuries, failure to properly train, or decline in skills due to age may have effected an athlete's performance.

I haven't seen anyone saying David Taylor should have won that match. It was clear who the better wrestler was. I just don't understand what you think people should be interested in talking about.

Pennstate1985 said:

I think most of us understood your point.

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I’d like to think a large portion of regulars did. One might even wager a majority.

Our JUCO hosts an open to start our season this weekend. Bunch of my club guys at colleges come back to compete. Couple club kids have big matchups at an all star dual, one of ‘em being ranked nationally. I don’t have energy to give away for free, when I’m so blessed.

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bison13 said:

On Toles behalf I believe he was not diagnosed until later with some type of issue like Chrons disease or something where he could never keep on the weight. He was constantly fighting that batter to get bigger

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he was on a snap count and couldn't play very much per game

bdgan said:

PSU really needs USC to beat ND.
It would also help if Michigan & OSU both beat Indiana.

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Penn state just needs to win. With the exception of this week they will be greater then td favorites in all remaining games.

McScoreley said:

Tea leaves say Nelson won the initial 174 wrestleoff against Gabe Arnold. Obviously noteworthy since every had him going 184 despite what he said on Flo.

It's kind of wild that despite the horses mouth saying something, people didn't believe the horse.

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what was the score 0-0 triple overtime tom picks the winner! LOL

Pennstate1985 said:

I want guys who score points for the team at nationals. Whether that is 3-1 in OT or a tech fall. The important thing imho is consistency. I want guys who consistently produce quality outings. That sustains itself in tournaments. I hate the tech fall followed by a mysterious 4-2 loss to an unranked guy followed by a pin.

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The argument could be made but does that really describe Bo? He loses almost never, seems to always avenge those loses and never just loses to people that aren't elite.

Pennstate1985 said:

My over/under for those eventually wrestling for Iowa is 1.5.

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Saw McMullen verballed. So there's one but I think there's a chance that one may never actually happen...

Obliviax said:

We ran a lot of shovel passes to Warren and Kaytron to offset Wisconsin's pass rush as well.

I am not seeing very many quick outside passes this year. We've run a handful for Warren. You know, the QB throws a bullet to a WR on the sideline who has a companion receiver block for him. The Patriots won four super bowls with that play.

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You'll see that play about 10 times by our opponent this weekend. We seem to only run this to Warren and he does really well with it. I'd like to see us run it with two tight ends blocking (Warren & Dinkins) and singleton behind them. Big bodies and the ability to break one tackle really helps. You get Singleton free on this type of play and it can go a long way.

GSPMax said:

Subjective vs objective analysis. I know that concept is above your pay grade.

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Without evaluation and analysis data means nothing--otherwise players would be draft solely on that data
There's a reason PFF grades are used by scouts as a baseline--just like the NFL uses them to rank players during broadcasts.
QBR is simply a data point--you said ESPN graded them higher which they didn't--hence I asked when ESPN started grading players.

PurposePitch said:

Just to clean it up a bit, OSU would be 11-2 in that scenario, with a loss in the CCG. Texas would be 11-2.

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PSU really needs USC to beat ND.
It would also help if Michigan & OSU both beat Indiana.

LandoComando said:

LOL QBR isn't a "grade" as I advised
It evaluates stats--consistency is a struggle for you, I know.

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Subjective vs objective analysis. I know that concept is above your pay grade.

Still in State College said:

nothing about 2002 was about Mills.

It was all about Larry Johnson. Mills was 8-24 in the bowl game for less than 70 yards. He threw for under 100 against OSU. Against Iowa he had a big game in the loss.

At the end of the day he was a QB with 41 TD's and 39 INT's for his career. That is the kind of play that leads to 21-27 record over 4-years. New QB in 2005 and go 51-13 over the next 5-years. I know all teams are different but that was essentially the same coaching during both periods.

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He had his shoulder ruined and was never the same. Look at stats before and after.

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GSPMax said:

So,
ESPN's FPI---good
ESPN's QBR---bad
Consistancy is not your strong suit.

Pitt is having a "solid season" in meaningless scrimmages.

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LOL QBR isn't a "grade" as I advised--I never said it wasn't "good"
It evaluates stats--consistency is a struggle for you
What game has Penn State played this year that I call a scrimmage? I was unaware we've played a bowl game. Just opponents we should beat which we have

BOSCO2 said:

Met Cappy at the pep rally prior to the Rose Bowl after the '94 season. Shook his hand. Biggest hands I ever saw. No wonder he never fumbled(don't know if that's true, but I like to think so).

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21 NFL fumbles in his career.

Battles at 133, 157, and 197.

Most here seem to think Kasak has the inside track for 157, but I'm not ready to give up on Alex. How one year and -8 pounds will translate to 2025 is yet to be seen.