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2017-18 BWI Last Man Standing Contest

Tom McAndrew

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Geez, where has the time gone? As of today (10/26), we're two weeks away from the first PSU dual meet of the season. As such, it's time to start thinking about the BWI Last Man Standing (LMS) contest.

As a review for those that participated last year, and as information for those that want to join the competition this year, here's how the competition works:

1. each contestant would enter 2 D1 college wrestlers, a primary and a backup
2. your primary, and your backup, are the wrestler you think will go the farthest in the season without a loss

The rules would be as follows:

1. neither of your choices can have AAed (been an All-American) in any prior college season
2. your entrants will be out if a) they lose, forfeit, or default; b) they do not compete in a dual or tournament in which 5 starters from their team compete
3. your two entrants can not be the same college wrestler
4. you can not pick the same two wrestlers, in the same order (primary and backup) as someone who has already entered a selection (if you pick 1. Jim Smith & 2. Joe Jones, somebody else can pick 1. Joe Jones, and 2. Jim Smith)
5. the only competitions that count are against D1 wrestlers. As such, a loss to a non-D1 wrestler by an entrant would not knock you out

Your primary entrant would be key. If your primary entrant loses, forfeits, or defaults, etc., and any other player has their primary entrant still undefeated, you would be out of the contest. If multiple folks have the same primary, and he's the last primary to lose, then the contest comes down to which backup is the last to lose.

A few additional rules:
- entries will be posted in a separate thread, starting on 11/1 (I'll give a specific time in a subsequent post), and they will end at 6 pm EDT on 11/6.
- matches in the NWCA All-Star Classic do not count in the contest
- early season tournaments, when teams are still fiddling with their rosters, do not count in terms of if an entrant does not participate (and 5 other starters do) it's considered a loss. The Cliff Kean LV tournament is the first tournament that will count. Note: if one of your entrants does participate in an early tournament, and loses to a D1 wrestler, then that does count as a loss
- if an entrant's team is in a one-day, multiple duals situation, they can miss ONE of the duals and not have it count as a loss or not wrestling. However, if they miss TWO of the duals on the day, then that entrant will have a loss.

Got all that? I hope I made it pretty clear. If you have questions, post them.

Also, this is not restricted to PSU fans. The only requirement is that you have to have posted on this board at least one time to be eligible to participate in the BWI LMS contest.

And to review, histone won last year's BWI LMS contest, which was also the initial BWI LMS contest. Last year's competition lasted longer than most of us anticipated. Only time will tell how long this year's contest lasts.
 
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I should add this:

DO NOT post your entries as responses in this thread.

Also, it's not to your advantage to discuss on this board who you plan to pick, as if someone else picks the same two primary and backup wrestlers before you post the same, the other person's entry will count, while you'll need to make 2 new picks.
 
- entries will be posted in a separate thread, starting on 11/1 (I'll give a specific time in a subsequent post), and they will end at 6 pm EDT on 11/6.

I'm going to have to push this back a day or two (hopefully that's all). A major health issue in my wife's family has impacted my schedule. I hope to start the picks either Thursday (11/2) or Friday (11/3). When my schedule is a little clearer, I'll post something the day before the picks will commence.

Sorry about the delay.
 
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I'm going to have to push this back a day or two (hopefully that's all). A major health issue in my wife's family has impacted my schedule. I hope to start the picks either Thursday (11/2) or Friday (11/3). When my schedule is a little clearer, I'll post something the day before the picks will commence.

Sorry about the delay.
My prayers are with your family.
 
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I'm going to have to push this back a day or two (hopefully that's all). A major health issue in my wife's family has impacted my schedule. I hope to start the picks either Thursday (11/2) or Friday (11/3). When my schedule is a little clearer, I'll post something the day before the picks will commence.

Sorry about the delay.

Thoughts are with you Tom.
 
Just wanted to repeat everyone else’s sentiments, Tom...sending positive thoughts your way!
 
Tom: Hoping all turns out for the best.

All: Maybe it would be easier (and take a task off Tom's plate) if we went ahead and used this thread for the contest itself.
 
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thanks to the kind thoughts expressed to me/my wife's family in this thread.

it has been pretty stressful, and also exceedingly time consuming. I've barely been on the board the past few days.

I could start the LMS posts over the weekend, but I don't think that's fair, as many people have other obligations over the weekend, and might not be able to post their entry until long after the competition started.

So, around noon EST on Monday (11/6), I'll start a new thread with my LMS entry, and that will commence the competition. Entries have to be posted by noon EST on Thursday (11/9) to count in the competition. For a refresher on the rules, read the first post on this thread.

Best of luck to all that participate, and you have the weekend to work on your entries.
 
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Can we make that first pick... null and void? I agree 75% will pick him and the other 25% won't out of spite.
 
Since he isn't going to wrestle until at best immediately after the conclusion of the fall semester he will miss official Iowa events. First time Hawks take the mat and III doesn't wrestle he is DQed.

Nevermind. Everybody is talking Rutgers 125 pounder. Sorry.
 
No
Since he isn't going to wrestle until at best immediately after the conclusion of the fall semester he will miss official Iowa events. First time Hawks take the mat and III doesn't wrestle he is DQed.

Nevermind. Everybody is talking Rutgers 125 pounder. Sorry.
No worries - I was just thinking I was missing something - turned out I was - as I had the wrong guy. Thanks for clarifying for me.
 
Was it a rule or just a guideline that posters should not discuss who they might pick prior to officially placing picks?

Where's vodka when you need someone to call the compliance office?
 
Was it a rule or just a guideline that posters should not discuss who they might pick prior to officially placing picks?

Where's vodka when you need someone to call the compliance office?
My apologies. That’s was probably me who started although I never mentioned names. My bad though and it’s on me..
 
Hey Tom,

Requesting clarification on "not a prior AA": D1 or lower division?

Goofers are starting a D3 AA this year. He lost yesterday, but not sure if he's the only one. Plus it'll probably come up again in the future.
 
Hey Tom,

Requesting clarification on "not a prior AA": D1 or lower division?

Goofers are starting a D3 AA this year. He lost yesterday, but not sure if he's the only one. Plus it'll probably come up again in the future.
White from Nebby would be the other I am thinking of
 
Requesting clarification on "not a prior AA": D1 or lower division?

Goofers are starting a D3 AA this year. He lost yesterday, but not sure if he's the only one. Plus it'll probably come up again in the future.

An AA at D1 is the limitation. If a wrestler was an AA at another Division, and are wrestling D1 this year, they are eligible to be picked in the LMS contest.
 
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Is everyone picking Austin Harry the 141 guy from Army?

doubtful. we only had 1 idiot that picked him last year ... no wait, that idiot ended up winning the LMS standing contest, after removing Austin Harry from his entry. ;)
 
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