Almost certainly Bassett got called first.I just wonder who Cael called first. The stories about waiting outside Suriano's house on the eve of recruiting make me believe we do that on a regular. Bassett and Jax seem like they are already around the guys a ton.
Was he called during the day because we knew he wasn't coming here or because the midnight strategy doesn't hold water? I really don't know the truth of the matter.Almost certainly Bassett got called first.
And the Midnight Suriano calls/visits are likely a rarity for PSU coaches now. Recall last year's Knox recruitment day video (we have a thread on it, also it's on Flo). Cael called Knox during the day, not late in the day but also not among the first callers. Knox was thrilled to get that call, and he was otherwise very invested on coaches calling him at the stroke of midnight.
Watch the Knox video and see how he reacted to Cael's call. He was definitely not decided against PSU.Was he called during the day because we knew he wasn't coming here or because the midnight strategy doesn't hold water? I really don't know the truth of the matter.
To answer your question, I don't think so to be honest but I'm probably thinking like an adult. When I was 18 and dumb as a rock, attention was more important because it stroked my vanity. Hard to say really. Cael has more experience with 18 year olds than I do so I'll defer to his means. Which seem somewhat successful!Watch the Knox video and see how he reacted to Cael's call. He was definitely not decided against PSU.
He did commit to the school that contacted him first, right after midnight, but in general it's so overrated. Is a kid really going to turn down PSU because Cael called at 9 am instead of 12:01 am?
The brands brothers have the attitude many sales people have when they don't like or get tired of rejection. They send someone else or don't call. I am positive rejection is a big deal to Tom Brands and over time, it builds significant inertia. Sales management is what I did for a living for many years, and even the best can tire from rejection. It's obvious to me, and almost impossible to fix. It's psychological in nature.The video was not a good look for Iowa just symbolically …. of all coaches you could have call a 125/133 pound hammer …
Like just the common sense is lacking there
I just wonder who Cael called first. The stories about waiting outside Suriano's house on the eve of recruiting make me believe we do that on a regular. Bassett and Jax seem like they are already around the guys a ton.
Iowa had a sofa delivered to the Bassett front porch with Telford sitting on it at midnight. A sight to behold.If I were Cael, I'd have personally made Jax my very first call (or visit) and I'd have done it as soon as it hit midnight. I still don't think OSU is a guarantee like everyone else does. Wonder how the kid would have felt about Cael being on the phone or on his doorstep with him at midnight and not Bo. Next stop would have been to Bo's house.... giving him time to hang up with Bobby "one phone call away" Telford..
If I were Cael, I'd show up at The Compound at 4:55 am. Two birds, one stone.If I were Cael, I'd have personally made Jax my very first call (or visit) and I'd have done it as soon as it hit midnight. I still don't think OSU is a guarantee like everyone else does. Wonder how the kid would have felt about Cael being on the phone or on his doorstep with him at midnight and not Bo. Next stop would have been to Bo's house.... giving him time to hang up with Bobby "one phone call away" Telford..
Funny stuff!Cael outside Bassett's house at midnight
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......meanwhile nearby is Telford
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Understand your point but I disagree. I don't think any program can ever say that they are far beyond the point of doing what is necessary to win a recruit. Maybe they don't need to pull out all the stops on a lot of kids, but I bet Cael would be on a doorstep at midnight if necessary. He's a competitive guy.Funny stuff!
One small quibble…I think this program is far past the point of coaches showing up anywhere at midnight.
Oh, I would never undersell Cael’s competitiveness. It’s just that this massive dynasty they’ve built, the culture, the family have all made it so the top kids know full well where they should go to optimize their chances of attaining the very highest wrestling goals. They’ve built it to the point where the program sells itself and showing up anywhere at midnight is no longer necessary. Aren’t we lucky? 😃Understand your point but I disagree. I don't think any program can ever say that they are far beyond the point of doing what is necessary to win a recruit. Maybe they don't need to pull out all the stops on a lot of kids, but I bet Cael would be on a doorstep at midnight if necessary. He's a competitive guy.
Iowa called the Rainey brothers. They’ve already given up on Bassett and Forest.Telford is the recruiting weapon. Zero doubt the called Bo and Jax.
I would assume Johnstown had alot of d1 coaches there last night and today. Short dudes when cauliflower ears everywhere. I was in Johnstown once for jr high states, not a fun place.
Recently Cael said it’s more the kids recruiting them rather than PSU recruiting the kids. You think you can hang in this room… call me and we’ll check you out. Otherwise no need to apply.Funny stuff!
One small quibble…I think this program is far past the point of coaches showing up anywhere at midnight.
That was before DT and the money backing him. I don’t think Brands style lazy recruiting will cut it. To quote Glengarry Glen Ross - “always be selling”Recently Cael said it’s more the kids recruiting them rather than PSU recruiting the kids. You think you can hang in this room… call me and we’ll check you out. Otherwise no need to apply.
It was never that way. Some people took that phrase far too literally. Kids "recruit PSU" by showing they love the sport -- competing, attending camps, being around the program (as possible for geography), having fun, having a good attitude, being a good teammate, not partying, etc.That was before DT and the money backing him. I don’t think Brands style lazy recruiting will cut it. To quote Glengarry Glen Ross - “always be selling”
All that said, it would be awesome if Cael called Blaze last night and told him - I could be calling Juniors right now on their first recruiting day, but I’m calling you again.I have no doubt these coaches put in the work at recruiting. My guess, and it is only a guess, is that it’s more of a question of style. I can’t see Cael being the hard sell, used car salesman, call at midnight kind of a guy.
I think he and the other coaches work hard to get to know these kids to see if they are a good fit for the program and the program is a good fit for the kid vs a “we gotta get this kid” mentality.
That's what Joe thought as well. Then 2000 happened.Oh, I would never undersell Cael’s competitiveness. It’s just that this massive dynasty they’ve built, the culture, the family have all made it so the top kids know full well where they should go to optimize their chances of attaining the very highest wrestling goals. They’ve built it to the point where the program sells itself and showing up anywhere at midnight is no longer necessary. Aren’t we lucky? 😃
What is bolded is absolute BS that you added for some odd reason.Recently Cael said it’s more the kids recruiting them rather than PSU recruiting the kids. You think you can hang in this room… call me and we’ll check you out. Otherwise no need to apply.
It's well known that the PSU coaches parked outside Suriano's house and waited until midnight to knock on the door.As far as not calling kids at midnite. Who knows if they ever did that. Not sure it’s a matter of we’re so good now we don’t have to do put in that kind of effort anymore. Could be it’s more of a PSU call the first weekend stands out on its own to a top recruit as much as being the first call stands out.
I guess I ask and wonder because I would like to know who they think is the best and biggest need based on that action. Intend to agree it's Bassett because it's as big of a name as any in the past 20 years.Almost certainly Bassett got called first.
And the Midnight Suriano calls/visits are likely a rarity for PSU coaches now. Recall last year's Knox recruitment day video (we have a thread on it, also it's on Flo). Cael called Knox during the day, not late in the day but also not among the first callers. Knox was thrilled to get that call, and he was otherwise very invested on coaches calling him at the stroke of midnight.
I am already getting tired of the Bassett approach and things have just started.
One thing I hadn't considered earlier: Keegan was in El Salvador for U15 Pan Ams, which concluded yesterday. Presumably at least some of the family was there with him, during Day 1 of Bo's recruiting.I guess I ask and wonder because I would like to know who they think is the best and biggest need based on that action. Intend to agree it's Bassett because it's as big of a name as any in the past 20 years.
I'll be honest I looked at Mirasolas and said throw ins early on and now I look at them and say he was on to something earlier than most.
Cael wasn’t “Cael” in high school. He wouldn’t have been drooled over and talked about though the 🧠 probably would have had him sneaky high on his big board. I’m thinking Cael filters out the noise and is looking for potential.I guess I ask and wonder because I would like to know who they think is the best and biggest need based on that action. Intend to agree it's Bassett because it's as big of a name as any in the past 20 years.
I'll be honest I looked at Mirasolas and said throw ins early on and now I look at them and say he was on to something earlier than most.
In Bo’s interview with Basch he said he would widdle down the list of teams to decide who he’s going to visit because he won’t have time to visit every school. He also said he sees both sides, wanting to win team titles and be apart of something historic (PSU) vs. going to a school where you are the face of the program.I am already getting tired of the Bassett approach and things have just started.
To be clear calling him is of course a must, but his complete bullshit there are 30 schools in consideration is almost a red flag. Realistically, 4-5 at most, why not just be honest for Christ sake, and not burn precious $$$ from some of these smaller programs just to get wined and dined.
The talent is emmense but the presentation has the "it's all about me" flavor that leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
All of this tells me he emotionally 'needs' to be the face of a program, not just one of the many greats. Unfortunately we have seen this before and IMO Bo is even worse.
I could be wrong but the optics are poor.
Bo Bassett is a piker compared to RBY and Carter when it comes to social media presence.I am already getting tired of the Bassett approach and things have just started.
To be clear calling him is of course a must, but his complete bullshit there are 30 schools in consideration is almost a red flag. Realistically, 4-5 at most, why not just be honest for Christ sake, and not burn precious $$$ from some of these smaller programs just to get wined and dined.
The talent is emmense but the presentation has the "it's all about me" flavor that leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
All of this tells me he emotionally 'needs' to be the face of a program, not just one of the many greats. Unfortunately we have seen this before and IMO Bo is even worse.
I could be wrong but the optics are poor.
Inside the Iowa sales room:That was before DT and the money backing him. I don’t think Brands style lazy recruiting will cut it. To quote Glengarry Glen Ross - “always be selling”
The boys of GIA will pencil Bo and Jax in their 9AA, 5 champ and 173 point team lineup until they are out of eligibility.Iowa called the Rainey brothers. They’ve already given up on Bassett and Forest.
I am already getting tired of the Bassett approach and things have just started.
To be clear calling him is of course a must, but his complete bullshit there are 30 schools in consideration is almost a red flag. Realistically, 4-5 at most, why not just be honest for Christ sake, and not burn precious $$$ from some of these smaller programs just to get wined and dined.
The talent is emmense but the presentation has the "it's all about me" flavor that leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
All of this tells me he emotionally 'needs' to be the face of a program, not just one of the many greats. Unfortunately we have seen this before and IMO Bo is even worse.
I could be wrong but the optics are poor.