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I'll be getting my drivers license photo taken this week (whenever I find the time). I have my stuff ready to get the real ID. I'll report back what I find out.
Ned, if I can ask, what state does your folks live in? I believe some states are requiring Real ID in order to vote. That may be why they were asked. But I don’t understand why they would ask for party affiliation.
So they know which ballot to give them for a primary election? Still seems fishy to me though.
Well that’s odd because PA is not one of the states that will require Real ID to vote. I suspect answering those Qs is not mandatory in order to get the Real ID but rather big brother trying to insert itself into people’s personal lives. A similar situation occurred with an elder relative a few years ago, he applied to receive meals on wheels and the caseworker told him she was required to offer him the chance to register to vote. What that had to do with an elderly man getting a meal is anyone’s guess.
I know a few people that have gotten their Real ID from the MVA here in Bel Air, MD. No one said anything about those questions. Weird.
Pretty much the same reason I got my passport last fall, except that I'm going to Banf in July.
Went to Frederick MD MVA Monday and took them the paperwork for my ID. I already had the new one but since MD effed up when I got it about 18 months ago I only had to take paperwork in. I went to the counter showed my current license, then showed birth cert, then ss, then 2 proofs of residency. They scanned them all in and I was out. Not a single question asked about anything. Spent 30 minutes waiting for a 2 minute process.
Just got a realID 3 weeks ago and they did NOT ask my political affiliation; however, you can register to vote at the DMV.
I live in Missouri; my wife and I both got our Real-ID's about a month ago. They do not ask any voting questions or parting affiliations in Missouri. When you visit the Missouri site they provide you with the documents you will need and the cost for getting Real-ID outside of the normal renewal site; cost for me was $5.
getting ready to renew my state (WV) that is Federally compliant. On the form it asks, are you a US citizen? Would like to register to vote? Do you wish to be an organ donor?
just for the record.
The odd thing about the experience of Nate's parents is that they not only asked "would you like to register to vote" but also asked what their party affiliation is and when they last voted. It sounds like Ned's parents most likely responded "no thank you, we are already registered". The discussion should end there. Even if they wanted to register the DMV person certainly had no reason to know what their party affiliation is and very little reason to know when they last voted. I suppose they could say they asked that second question to determine if they last voted so long ago that they were since purged from the voter rolls; but even that seems suspect as I believe each county has their own standard for purging a voter from the list.
They would have to ask party affiliation because Pennsylvania is a closed primary state. So you can only vote in the primary for the party in which you are registered. The question about when they last voted seems odd, unless, as you said, there was some concern that they had been dropped from the rolls.
I guess my point is, if they answered that they are currently registered, no need to ask about party affiliation. If we were to assume they answered no, we are not registered but would like to do so, I would imagine the appropriate protocol would be for the DMV person to say, "wonderful, here is the voter registration application, you can complete and mail it to the Department of State at your convenience". If the DMV person intended to actually complete the form for them, that is either one very helpful public servant or someone who may have an ulterior motive. There have been many instances of local activists setting up voter registration tables at malls, community events, etc... and trashing the applications of people who are requesting to register for the opposing party.
I might have this totally wrong but I don't think its an option. The Real ID is replacing your drivers license.
But you do have the option of a passport card instead of a traditional passport if you want to go that route.
Not in PA at least. The REAL ID is optional. Just won't be able to use your regular license to board a domestic flight or to enter certain federal facilities come October 2020.
The Motor Voter law from the early 90s mandated state DMVs to register people to vote when they got a license, registered a vehicle, etc. They don't give someone a form and tell them to send it in. They actually register them on the spot. So they would have to ask for party affiliation if registering a new voter, especially in a closed primary state like PA.
Im speaking just PA.
My current drivers lic. is valid for 4 more years.
Passport card is not the same as passport. Cant travel air international with card and only certain seaports.
Realid is optional in PA, at least for now.
For Loyal above, a passport card is $65 for first application. $30 for renewal. I got the realid because I travel domestically a lot. I don't want to carry my passport with me and don't need the passport card. For me, getting the realid was no hassle at all. My license expired. When I renewed, I just got the realid instead. Paid the extra $30. The extra time involved was MAYBE 10 minutes, due to the extra paperwork.
EDIT: In the end, time spent at DMV may have been less than normal license renewal. I went on a Saturday AM along with everybody else in the county that has a day job. Take a number like the deli counter. There was 1 person front of me for real id. There were A LOT of people there for normal license (do we now call that a fake id?) Guy in front of me finishes, they call my number. Clerk enters my info. I sign a couple documents and return to my seat and wait to be called for my photo, thinking I will be there for a while. It appears I jumped the photo line, because it was about 2 minutes later that I was called for photo. I spent about a half hour at the DMV at what appeared to be a rather busy time of day.
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Thanks it must be a state thing then. I just asked my boss, who got his Real ID last week, and he said there was no option. At least in MD. Geez lets make this as confusing as possible.SMH.
Yea I realized the card doesn't offer all the benefits that a Passport does.
and then I see this when I looked up Real ID...
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Recently, the Transportation Security Administration began posting signs at airport security checkpoints warning travelers about some upcoming ID requirement changes. So what exactly are these changes, and what do you need to do to be ready?
We’ll break down exactly what REAL ID is, and what it may mean for you and how you travel.
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What Is the REAL ID Act?
Formulated in the wake of September 11 and passed by Congress in 2005, the REAL ID Act was passed to “set standards for the issuance of sources of identification, such as driver’s licenses.”
The act established minimum security standards for state-issued driver’s licenses and identification cards, and it prohibits federal agencies from accepting licenses and identification cards from states that do not meet these standards for official purposes.
It was aimed at eliminating airline terrorism by increasing requirements to obtain documents granting access to domestic planes.
State agencies like the Department of Motor Vehicles require more paperwork regarding proof of residency and Social Security Number when issuing licenses and identification cards under the new act.
In addition, the cards themselves will also be built using new technology, making them much more difficult to forge.
It has taken the federal government nearly 15 years to implement the act fully — a gradual process that has been met by some confusion as each state has a different status. However, all states will need to be in compliance by October 1, 2020.
What Does a REAL ID Look Like?
In most states, there is a gold or black star on the front of the license that will signify compliance. If you see this, then you’re good to go.
However, to make it more confusing, a few states have issued compliant IDs without a star (Hawaii, Ohio, Tennessee, and Utah). So it’s best to confirm with your state if you don’t see a star.
Hot Tip: Some states, including Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Vermont and Washington State are currently issuing enhanced drivers licenses. These are a form of REAL ID. They additionally allow land and sea border crossings to Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean.
Like I said lets make it as confusing as possible.
You are correct. The number of scheme phone calls used to get personal information grows exponentially in your 70’s. I’ve already paid for car warranties, hearing aids, school loans and medical alerts half dozen times and nothing ever comes. As far as the DMV never asked about registering to vote. Just wear a MAGA hat. No one wants to give me a ballot. Oh, my car was registered and has voted twice in California.
I know the cost. And be clear its 30 on a renewal passport. Or +30 dollars on you application for passport. Also its good for 10 years. Real id not as long. Is the extra passport card in your wallet cramping your style?
Nobody needs a passport card nobody needs a realid. Its just fake security from the boogie man.
I dont like smelly ppl at the DMV.
I misread your previous response.
I have both card and traditional passport. For various reasons. But mainly there are places i go that the card will work and I dont need my passport if i didnt. That alone is worth it to me. I lose things.
And the card does offer more than a realid minus driving. And you apply from your house. Its also cooler looking.
as I said, WV is a progressive state, no need to go to the DMV, you can do everything online!!!
Yes.
I need a passport and I need a driver's license in order to do what I want to do. I don't need a passport card.
Got the Real ID in PA a few months ago - took 2 hours to get to the counter- went to lunch and came back just in time and this was a Thursday mid morning. I have a passport but don’t want to bring that with me on domestic travel which I do a lot. PA was just to cheap to get the needed technology to be TSA compliant in a timely manner.
Assuming to keep your wallet razor thin. You carry a bit coin card and that is all? Maybe apple or samsung pay. Since only your drivers lic is in your wallet?
In Maryland getting a real ID driver's license is mandatory. After Nov 2019 if you are stopped by the police your driver's license may be confiscated. Like Bison13 above I already have a real ID driver's license and like him I did not have to present the documents required by Maryland to get a real ID driver's license when I renewed my license. This was a big mistake by Maryland MVA. So I have to make an appointment to go in and present my documents. This is big waste of my time.
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