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Based on Simmons96's recommendation, I just finished watching a series on Netflix "Making A Murderer"

OMG!! This show is an incredible story involving police and prosecutorial misconduct.

I think some of the themes will resonate with those that are watching the porngate and even Sandusky scandals

Thanks for the recommendation, Simmons96

people need to open their eyes about how easily the criminal justice system can be corrupted, sometimes even by people who truly believe they are doing "good".

what is really sad about this case (and many others) is that the prosecutor and police pretty much knew they guy was (likely) innocent, but they went ahead and railroaded him to close a case, get a conviction, and make the public feel a false sense of safety

and no matter how hard or how often they were shown they did the wrong thing, they just doubled down on it (sound familiar??)
 
I couldn't agree more with this statement, Simons96. The prosecution doubled down AND the Judiciary doubled down as well....Never admit any wrong doing. Never show any vulnerability. When you have both the prosecution and the judiciary basically taking the same stance the entire system of justice is 100% compromised. It almost reminds you of the AMA reviewing malpractice claims. They always fail to properly discipline members of their own profession.

....AND that is exactly why Eakins, Fina et al need to be fully investigated. Resignations are merely an attempt to truncate deeper scrutiny.

If I had or if any of my family members had a case involving any of these porngate guys, I would be engaging a lawyer immediately to re-evaluate the entire case.

One last point, Wick Sollers and the legal teams of C/S/S are going to eviscerate the prosecution/state. This documentary really contrasts good and bad legal defense teams.

this is similar to prosecutors who pad their stats. offer generous plea deals to difficult cases, not to serve justice but to put a number in the "conviction" file. railroad innocent people with trumped up charges just to get them to plea down rather than face dozens of years in prison.

we're already seeing in Philly that perhaps hundreds of drug cases have been compromised by corrupt police officers. does this mean all cops/prosecutors are bad? certainly not, but goodness gracious we've seen how hard it is to root out the rotten ones simply because of the power they old.

during discussions about the criminal justice system, I always go back to one of the best episodes of "Law & Order" called "Mad Dog" (S7 Ep 18) with the great Burt Young as a child rapist/murderer who gets paroled, but DA Jack McCoy suspects him of being involved with a new case. And you get to see a determined McCoy use every prosecutorial trick in the book to try and bring Young to justice, to the point where even his boss says even if McCoy is on the side of the angels, he feels uncomfortable with the shredding of the legal system McCoy is utilizing to hound a suspect.

Really opens your eyes to how profoundly even a GOOD prosecutor can destroy your life without due process.
 
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people need to open their eyes about how easily the criminal justice system can be corrupted, sometimes even by people who truly believe they are doing "good".

what is really sad about this case (and many others) is that the prosecutor and police pretty much knew they guy was (likely) innocent, but they went ahead and railroaded him to close a case, get a conviction, and make the public feel a false sense of safety

and no matter how hard or how often they were shown they did the wrong thing, they just doubled down on it (sound familiar??)
They think he's guilty, which is actually worse. Edit: There's circumstantial evidence not included in the documentary. IMO it wasn't included because the defense was prevented from introducing circumstantial evidence of alternate suspects. In the end it wasn't proof anyway.

I can't remember how many of the cops said it on the stand or during the deposition, but a bunch of them still think he committed the rape he was cleared of.

Think about that for a moment. The actual perpetrator fit the description, attempted to rape a woman in the same exact place where the crime was committed in the past, was so dangerous he was under surveillance, and ultimately had a pubic found on the victim.

The fact these men legitimately acted as if there was still some doubt is far more frightening than outright malice towards what they believe to be an innocent man.

At the very least they would be capable of solving crimes even though they chose not to. As it stands they believe evidence is secondary to opinion.

And in case you didn't know about the DA with the whiny voice:http://www.dailymails.xyz/news/arti...s-sleazy-text-messages-sent-abuse-victim.html
 
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criminal justice is a mess right now...a true crying shame.
 
I am so glad you brought this up. I kept saying that to my wife. "In his deposition, the sheriff is refusing to acknowledge the DNA results and this guys innocence. This is obviously a personal thing between the sheriff a few deputies and the Avery family. It's not about guilt or innocence. It's flat out personal.
They (the Averys) are less than popular within the community to say the least.
 
A cop actually stopped and pulled me to the side in the small town of Selinsgrove Pa. For J walking! I asked him if this was a joke and said to him, that I could video tape 100 people during the week crossing the same street. He then lied and said I almost caused him to hit me! I took this to court and once he showed the dash cam video to the judge, he said now judge the way this laptop and video work he is going to look further away. I laughed and asked him if he would consider himself a video expert or if he had training with this type of technology. He responded with a no, but then the judge tried to side with him and say there's a lot of traffic in Selinsgrove on a Thursday night! I couldn't believe these two working together on a freaking J walking ticket! Also, I did ask the cop for a warning using my Veteran status after he brought up my license plate with Iraq war veteran on it. His comment, that's what happens to you guys. You don't get hurt over there, but come home and get hurt walking across the street! I never bit my tongue so hard! That's my vent for the end of the year! Merry Christmas!
 
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