9 new rules / changes for NCAA football this season...

[mmp121]

http://pennstate.247sports.com/Bolt/New-rules-to-know-for-the-2015-college-football-season-39025197

Wonder how many of them the B1G ref's will be following, or even know about!

1. An eight-person officiating system will be allowed if a conference or school chooses. A center judge was used experimentally in several conferences during the past two seasons.
2. A 15-yard unsportsmanlike foul will be called on players who push or pull opponents off piles. This usually occurred in the past after fumbles.
3. If a helmet comes off a defensive player in the final minute of a half, 10 seconds will be run off the game clock and the play clock will be set at 40 seconds. Previously, the play clock was set to 25 seconds. There were a few situations near the end of a half where the offense had to snap the ball one more time when they were trying to run out the clock. So now the play clock is set to 40 seconds when a defensive player loses his helmet, and still to 25 seconds when it is a player on offense. This is also consistent with the rule for stopping the game due to an injured player.
4. Officials will return to giving teams an initial sideline warning when their personnel move out of the designated team bench area.
5. Officials will treat illegal equipment issues -- such as jerseys tucked under the shoulder pads or exposed back pads -- by making the player leave the field for at least one play. The equipment must be corrected for the player to return to the game. The player may remain in the game if his team takes a timeout to correct the equipment issue.
6. Instant replay reviews will be allowed to see if a kicking team player blocked the receiving team before the ball traveled 10 yards on onside-kick plays.
7. Teams must be provided at least 22 minutes prior to kickoff for pregame warm-ups. Teams may mutually agree to shorten this time period.
8. If the play clock runs to 25 seconds before the ball is ready for play, officials will reset the clock to 40 seconds. Previously, the play clock was reset when it reached 20 seconds.
9. Non-standard/overbuilt face masks are prohibited.

 

[jj410]

http://pennstate.247sports.com/Bolt/New-rules-to-know-for-the-2015-college-football-season-39025197

Wonder how many of them the B1G ref's will be following, or even know about!

1. An eight-person officiating system will be allowed if a conference or school chooses. A center judge was used experimentally in several conferences during the past two seasons.
2. A 15-yard unsportsmanlike foul will be called on players who push or pull opponents off piles. This usually occurred in the past after fumbles.
3. If a helmet comes off a defensive player in the final minute of a half, 10 seconds will be run off the game clock and the play clock will be set at 40 seconds. Previously, the play clock was set to 25 seconds. There were a few situations near the end of a half where the offense had to snap the ball one more time when they were trying to run out the clock. So now the play clock is set to 40 seconds when a defensive player loses his helmet, and still to 25 seconds when it is a player on offense. This is also consistent with the rule for stopping the game due to an injured player.
4. Officials will return to giving teams an initial sideline warning when their personnel move out of the designated team bench area.
5. Officials will treat illegal equipment issues -- such as jerseys tucked under the shoulder pads or exposed back pads -- by making the player leave the field for at least one play. The equipment must be corrected for the player to return to the game. The player may remain in the game if his team takes a timeout to correct the equipment issue.
6. Instant replay reviews will be allowed to see if a kicking team player blocked the receiving team before the ball traveled 10 yards on onside-kick plays.
7. Teams must be provided at least 22 minutes prior to kickoff for pregame warm-ups. Teams may mutually agree to shorten this time period.
8. If the play clock runs to 25 seconds before the ball is ready for play, officials will reset the clock to 40 seconds. Previously, the play clock was reset when it reached 20 seconds.
9. Non-standard/overbuilt face masks are prohibited.

10. Under no circumstances will the OSU offensive line be called for holding and all their catches on the first bounce count.

 

[Obliviax]

#3 If a helmet comes off a defensive player in the final minute of a half, 10 seconds will be run off the game clock and the play clock will be set at 40 seconds. Previously, the play clock was set to 25 seconds. There were a few situations near the end of a half where the offense had to snap the ball one more time when they were trying to run out the clock. So now the play clock is set to 40 seconds when a defensive player loses his helmet, and still to 25 seconds when it is a player on offense. This is also consistent with the rule for stopping the game due to an injured player.​

Why not rip an opponents helmet off, then, when trying to run out the clock and the D has timeouts left?

 

[Madsol]

http://pennstate.247sports.com/Bolt/New-rules-to-know-for-the-2015-college-football-season-39025197

Wonder how many of them the B1G ref's will be following, or even know about!

1. An eight-person officiating system will be allowed if a conference or school chooses. A center judge was used experimentally in several conferences during the past two seasons.
2. A 15-yard unsportsmanlike foul will be called on players who push or pull opponents off piles. This usually occurred in the past after fumbles.
3. If a helmet comes off a defensive player in the final minute of a half, 10 seconds will be run off the game clock and the play clock will be set at 40 seconds. Previously, the play clock was set to 25 seconds. There were a few situations near the end of a half where the offense had to snap the ball one more time when they were trying to run out the clock. So now the play clock is set to 40 seconds when a defensive player loses his helmet, and still to 25 seconds when it is a player on offense. This is also consistent with the rule for stopping the game due to an injured player.
4. Officials will return to giving teams an initial sideline warning when their personnel move out of the designated team bench area.
5. Officials will treat illegal equipment issues -- such as jerseys tucked under the shoulder pads or exposed back pads -- by making the player leave the field for at least one play. The equipment must be corrected for the player to return to the game. The player may remain in the game if his team takes a timeout to correct the equipment issue.
6. Instant replay reviews will be allowed to see if a kicking team player blocked the receiving team before the ball traveled 10 yards on onside-kick plays.
7. Teams must be provided at least 22 minutes prior to kickoff for pregame warm-ups. Teams may mutually agree to shorten this time period.
8. If the play clock runs to 25 seconds before the ball is ready for play, officials will reset the clock to 40 seconds. Previously, the play clock was reset when it reached 20 seconds.
9. Non-standard/overbuilt face masks are prohibited.

Please tell me what I'm missing re: #3. That seems to penalize the offense. You're frantically trying to get into scoring position and you lose 10 seconds because the defensive player's helmet comes off? Why won't the defense just keep "losing" their helmets on every play? I have to be missing something. Can someone please help me out?

 

[fairgambit]

Please tell me what I'm missing re: #3. That seems to penalize the offense. You're frantically trying to get into scoring position and you lose 10 seconds because the defensive player's helmet comes off? Why won't the defense just keep "losing" their helmets on every play? I have to be missing something. Can someone please help me out?

Yes, I don't understand that one either.

 

[mmp121]

10. Under no circumstances will the OSU offensive line be called for holding and all their catches on the first bounce count.

That would be in the fine print

 

[mmp121]

Yes, I don't understand that one either.

That rule also has me perplexed.

 

[Bushwood CC]

Please tell me what I'm missing re: #3. That seems to penalize the offense. You're frantically trying to get into scoring position and you lose 10 seconds because the defensive player's helmet comes off? Why won't the defense just keep "losing" their helmets on every play? I have to be missing something. Can someone please help me out?

Yea, #3 seems ripe for abuse....especially in the b1g Turd Conference (remember when Bilema absued the "Sportsmanship" rule without penalty and told his players to commit a penalty on multiple kicks (offsides) to run time off the clock at end of first half so PSU's offense wouldn't have any time even if they got a big return?

 

[nittanymoops]

I immediately thought of Bi-lenema as well when I read No. 3.

 

[Cletus11]

10. Under no circumstances will the OSU offensive line be called for holding and all their catches on the first bounce count.

11. Delay of game because the play clock runs out can be called at the discretion of the referee against OSU.

12. No replays allowed if there is deemed to be more than a 1% chance it could be against OSU (why even bother having the replay booth official make up lies during the game).

 

[MichaelJackSchmidt]

http://pennstate.247sports.com/Bolt/New-rules-to-know-for-the-2015-college-football-season-39025197

Wonder how many of them the B1G ref's will be following, or even know about!

1. An eight-person officiating system will be allowed if a conference or school chooses. A center judge was used experimentally in several conferences during the past two seasons.
2. A 15-yard unsportsmanlike foul will be called on players who push or pull opponents off piles. This usually occurred in the past after fumbles.
3. If a helmet comes off a defensive player in the final minute of a half, 10 seconds will be run off the game clock and the play clock will be set at 40 seconds. Previously, the play clock was set to 25 seconds. There were a few situations near the end of a half where the offense had to snap the ball one more time when they were trying to run out the clock. So now the play clock is set to 40 seconds when a defensive player loses his helmet, and still to 25 seconds when it is a player on offense. This is also consistent with the rule for stopping the game due to an injured player.
4. Officials will return to giving teams an initial sideline warning when their personnel move out of the designated team bench area.
5. Officials will treat illegal equipment issues -- such as jerseys tucked under the shoulder pads or exposed back pads -- by making the player leave the field for at least one play. The equipment must be corrected for the player to return to the game. The player may remain in the game if his team takes a timeout to correct the equipment issue.
6. Instant replay reviews will be allowed to see if a kicking team player blocked the receiving team before the ball traveled 10 yards on onside-kick plays.
7. Teams must be provided at least 22 minutes prior to kickoff for pregame warm-ups. Teams may mutually agree to shorten this time period.
8. If the play clock runs to 25 seconds before the ball is ready for play, officials will reset the clock to 40 seconds. Previously, the play clock was reset when it reached 20 seconds.
9. Non-standard/overbuilt face masks are prohibited.

#3 makes no sense

 

[dwiz]

I'm thinking #3 is situational. In theory, they wouldn't call it on a potential game winning drive, but they would call it when the offense is trying to run out the clock. The only thing the NCAA does for football is provide the rule book and the officials and they can't even get that right.

 

[Madsol]

#3 If a helmet comes off a defensive player in the final minute of a half, 10 seconds will be run off the game clock and the play clock will be set at 40 seconds. Previously, the play clock was set to 25 seconds. There were a few situations near the end of a half where the offense had to snap the ball one more time when they were trying to run out the clock. So now the play clock is set to 40 seconds when a defensive player loses his helmet, and still to 25 seconds when it is a player on offense. This is also consistent with the rule for stopping the game due to an injured player.​

Why not rip an opponents helmet off, then, when trying to run out the clock and the D has timeouts left?

You looked at it from the opposite perspective but it's the same question

I'm thinking #3 is situational. In theory, they wouldn't call it on a potential game winning drive, but they would call it when the offense is trying to run out the clock. The only thing the NCAA does for football is provide the rule book and the officials and they can't even get that right.

Why would they even institute the rule if it's only going to be called at the discretion of the officials? And why give them that discretion? Unless there's more to that rule than we're seeing, it's only a matter of time until a right-before-halftime or last-minute-of-the-game scoring drive is thwarted by that rule. And obliviax pointed out the other side of the rule, how an offensive team is going to purposefully pull off the helmets of the defensive team when they're trying to kill the clock and make sure the other team doesn't get another chance to score. I'm as cynical towards the NCAA as anyone but I still say there has to be something i'm missing with this rule.

 

[Fox Chapel Lion II]

More rules = more ignorance and more opportunities for all manner of chicanery. Especially in conferences where the officials have no supervision, no accountability, and the director of officials has a shrine to his Alma Mater at the conference offices.

 

[dwiz]

More rules = more ignorance and more opportunities for all manner of chicanery. Especially in conferences where the officials have no supervision, no accountability, and the director of officials has a shrine to his Alma Mater at the conference offices.

Are we talking about the ref from Michigan (retired now) who used to ref Michigan games and had the shrine to michigan in his basement? He's not the director of officials now is he?

 

[JBDLion]

I think #2 is a tough one as well. I guess they're trying to avoid injuries or potential scuffles, but I think a lot of guys will instinctively try to pull opponents off of the pile to protect their teammates at the bottom.

 

[Victor E. Bell]

More rules = more ignorance and more opportunities for all manner of chicanery. Especially in conferences where the officials have no supervision, no accountability, and the director of officials has a shrine to his Alma Mater at the conference offices.

Yes and as per item #1, let's put MORE of them on the field. That'll solve everything.

 

[Bushwood CC]

You looked at it from the opposite perspective but it's the same question


Why would they even institute the rule if it's only going to be called at the discretion of the officials? And why give them that discretion? Unless there's more to that rule than we're seeing, it's only a matter of time until a right-before-halftime or last-minute-of-the-game scoring drive is thwarted by that rule. And obliviax pointed out the other side of the rule, how an offensive team is going to purposefully pull off the helmets of the defensive team when they're trying to kill the clock and make sure the other team doesn't get another chance to score. I'm as cynical towards the NCAA as anyone but I still say there has to be something i'm missing with this rule.

Can see it now, offensive team moves into scoring position needing a FG to win with a TO remaining. At the end of the play to "center the ball", they are going to call TO as the clock ticks under 10 seconds.... On the "pile up" of the "centering play" one defensive player (e.g., tO$U player if it were last year's PSU - tO$U game) purposely pushes the helmet off of his teammates head while in the scrum attempting to make it look like part of the scrum on play. b1g Turd officials would invoke penalty (a la their "leaping" made up bull$hit in OT on PSU)....game over and offensive team never gets to attempt game-winning FG on a complete horse$hit call. Get ready for this rule to be abused by 4th b1g Turd officials similar to how the b1g Turd officials abused the rules in nullifying PSU's onside kick recovery against scUM a couple years ago or how they tortured the rules and outright cheated last year to assist tO$U's tainted victory last year (and even the b1g Turd's Director of Officiating has publicly admitted that the calls were wrong,game-impacting and potentially result-changing that tainted the game and outcome).

 

[ApexLion]

http://pennstate.247sports.com/Bolt/New-rules-to-know-for-the-2015-college-football-season-39025197

Wonder how many of them the B1G ref's will be following, or even know about!

1. An eight-person officiating system will be allowed if a conference or school chooses. A center judge was used experimentally in several conferences during the past two seasons.
2. A 15-yard unsportsmanlike foul will be called on players who push or pull opponents off piles. This usually occurred in the past after fumbles.
3. If a helmet comes off a defensive player in the final minute of a half, 10 seconds will be run off the game clock and the play clock will be set at 40 seconds. Previously, the play clock was set to 25 seconds. There were a few situations near the end of a half where the offense had to snap the ball one more time when they were trying to run out the clock. So now the play clock is set to 40 seconds when a defensive player loses his helmet, and still to 25 seconds when it is a player on offense. This is also consistent with the rule for stopping the game due to an injured player.
4. Officials will return to giving teams an initial sideline warning when their personnel move out of the designated team bench area.
5. Officials will treat illegal equipment issues -- such as jerseys tucked under the shoulder pads or exposed back pads -- by making the player leave the field for at least one play. The equipment must be corrected for the player to return to the game. The player may remain in the game if his team takes a timeout to correct the equipment issue.
6. Instant replay reviews will be allowed to see if a kicking team player blocked the receiving team before the ball traveled 10 yards on onside-kick plays.
7. Teams must be provided at least 22 minutes prior to kickoff for pregame warm-ups. Teams may mutually agree to shorten this time period.
8. If the play clock runs to 25 seconds before the ball is ready for play, officials will reset the clock to 40 seconds. Previously, the play clock was reset when it reached 20 seconds.
9. Non-standard/overbuilt face masks are prohibited.

Anything there about non-functioning cameras in big games?

 

[Ten Thousan Marbles]

More rules = more ignorance and more opportunities for all manner of chicanery. Especially in conferences where the officials have no supervision, no accountability, and the director of officials has a shrine to his Alma Mater at the conference offices.

Sounds like you got this right for me. We will see stuff like #3 come in to play in a game that will effect gambling payouts. You can bet the farm on that.

We are talking about a real bunch of crooks here within NCAA. Nothing less than organized crime validated by academia.

 

[The Spin Meister]

#6 is surprising. When I played against Freddie Flintstone and Barney Rubble we were taught to block the opponent on onside kicks.

 

[Obliviax]

#6 is surprising. When I played against Freddie Flintstone and Barney Rubble we were taught to block the opponent on onside kicks.

Yep. I think there is the notion, like a punt or a high kickoff, that you need to give the receiving team a fair opportunity to field the ball. So, you could kick a ball really high and then wipe the guy out as he was just about to catch the ball and recover it.
I feel like they want that rule to be carried forward on onside kicks as well.

 

[MichaelJackSchmidt]

I think #2 is a tough one as well. I guess they're trying to avoid injuries or potential scuffles, but I think a lot of guys will instinctively try to pull opponents off of the pile to protect their teammates at the bottom.

Yeah, expect that call on us when we play Ohio State or Michigan. In fact we'll get penalized for pulling our OWN teammates from the pile. A mis-applied rule? Imagine that.

 

[Woodpecker]

Officials will treat illegal equipment issues -- such as jerseys tucked under the shoulder pads or exposed back pads -- by making the player leave the field for at least one play. The equipment must be corrected for the player to return to the game. The player may remain in the game if his team takes a timeout to correct the equipment issue.

So if you want an opposing player out of the game for a play, you just tuck his jersey under his shoulder pads?

 

[Bushwood CC]

Yep. I think there is the notion, like a punt or a high kickoff, that you need to give the receiving team a fair opportunity to field the ball. So, you could kick a ball really high and then wipe the guy out as he was just about to catch the ball and recover it.
I feel like they want that rule to be carried forward on onside kicks as well.

Actually, if it is a straight "pooch kick" where the ball is hit high and short directly off the tee, the receiving team is permitted to "Fair Catch" the kick. This is specifically why teams bounce the ball directly off the ground from the tee even when they want it to bounce high in air --- it nullifies "Fair Catch". Once the ball hits the ground, it must be fielded by receiving team. The defense is not permitted to attempt receiving team players from fielding ball - that is holding. The offensive players are permitted to engage defensive players in blocks without attempting to field ball because they are the receiving team (e.g, they are permitted to prevent defenders from getting near receiver nearest to ball).