Good griefQuestion: with Stevens coming back and Clifford & Justin Fields coming in, will there be any movement to the current roster?
Question: with Stevens coming back and Clifford & Justin Fields coming in, will there be any movement to the current roster?
Question: with Stevens coming back and Clifford & Justin Fields coming in, will there be any movement to the current roster?
Trace is going to get processed.
I think quite a few posters need processed
Trace is going to get processed.
so the only one I worry about may be Zembiac, but not until he gets to his RS junior year.
Question: with Stevens coming back and Clifford & Justin Fields coming in, will there be any movement to the current roster?
My concern has been Stevens. No doubt he could have had opportunities elsewhere. But he still has a two year starting opportunity here, and I imagine that was his thinking. We're fortunate he's staying.No need to worry about anything here for a while. Stevens saw decent action for a backup and I think everyone was very comfortable with what he brought to the table. Having him re-affirm his commitment with McSorely still having 2 years left was great to see b/c I imagine he'd have some attractive opportunities if he wanted to transfer.
Clifford and Fields will surely redshirt and not even enter the equation until McSorely graduates so the only one I worry about may be Zembiac, but not until he gets to his RS junior year.
I'm concerned about the nature of Clifford's injury that he just had surgery for (torn labrum on his throwing shoulder can be a significant setback) but he should have a lot of time to rehab.
We don't have too many QBs but we do have 3 guys bunched together age wise. I guess in a perfect world we would have a senior, a junior, a sophomore, and a freshman. Instead we had a RS sophomore, a RS freshman, and a true freshman.
The other thing to consider is they type of QB Franklin recruits. The dual threat guys aren't as likely to leave early for the NFL. Just look at Barrett for OSU. On the other hand things were looking bad for Wimbush at ND. All of a sudden he's a likely starter.
Clifford (2017) and Fields (2018) should be fine. The question is if Stevens and Zembiec are going to hang around for all 4 years. Stevens is sone play away from being our starter but he could also be backup until his senior year. Even then he has to beat our a couple of other kids. Zembiec is in a similar situation.
My concern has been Stevens. No doubt he could have had opportunities elsewhere. But he still has a two year starting opportunity here, and I imagine that was his thinking. We're fortunate he's staying.
Fields is a 2018 commit which is a long time from now. Frankly, I would be surprised if he sticks as there will be a lot of recruiting pressure on him to "stay close to home" from all the SEC and ACC schools. Even if he does come to PSU, he is a long, long way from stepping on the field in a starting role (calendar wise - not talent wise).
Question: with Stevens coming back and Clifford & Justin Fields coming in, will there be any movement to the current roster?
What kind of defeatist attitude is this?
He's the leader of this class, is recruiting other players to join him aggressively, is a very intelligent young man who gave a lot of thought to his recruitment, and has given zero indication that he is interested in other schools or will take visits.
Save the pessimism for when it's warranted.
Fields: "I’m fully committed. I made sure that I got out to see all the schools that I had a lot of interest in, so I’m 100-percent committed. I know Penn State is the right place for me. I’m not going to other schools. All I care about is getting better for next year. "
And that is called competitive depth. Zembiec is 2 plays away from starting.
Because 16 year old kids never change their minds, do they?It's a fine example of the many uninformed then make shit up typical loser posts on this board that bothers the shit out of me.... too. Why do fans do it?
Because 16 year old kids never change their minds, do they?
Because 16 year old kids never change their minds, do they?
We don't have too many QBs but we do have 3 guys bunched together age wise. I guess in a perfect world we would have a senior, a junior, a sophomore, and a freshman. Instead we had a RS sophomore, a RS freshman, and a true freshman.
The other thing to consider is they type of QB Franklin recruits. The dual threat guys aren't as likely to leave early for the NFL. Just look at Barrett for OSU. On the other hand things were looking bad for Wimbush at ND. All of a sudden he's a likely starter.
Clifford (2017) and Fields (2018) should be fine. The question is if Stevens and Zembiec are going to hang around for all 4 years. Stevens is sone play away from being our starter but he could also be backup until his senior year. Even then he has to beat our a couple of other kids. Zembiec is in a similar situation.
That's a little confusing. Your ideal scenario is one QB in each year. That is exactly what we have eligibility-wise. Next year McSorley will be JR, Stevens SO, Zembiec FR, and Clifford RS. Then the next year Fields. One QB/class. If one of the younger guys beats out a guy ahead of him, and does not redshirt, so be it. Competition.
What kind of defeatist attitude is this?
He's the leader of this class, is recruiting other players to join him aggressively, is a very intelligent young man who gave a lot of thought to his recruitment, and has given zero indication that he is interested in other schools or will take visits.
Save the pessimism for when it's warranted.
Fields: "I’m fully committed. I made sure that I got out to see all the schools that I had a lot of interest in, so I’m 100-percent committed. I know Penn State is the right place for me. I’m not going to other schools. All I care about is getting better for next year. "
No seniors or juniors this year but it worked out. I agree that things should be fine going forward.That's a little confusing. Your ideal scenario is one QB in each year. That is exactly what we have eligibility-wise. Next year McSorley will be JR, Stevens SO, Zembiec FR, and Clifford RS. Then the next year Fields. One QB/class. If one of the younger guys beats out a guy ahead of him, and does not redshirt, so be it. Competition.
Because 16 year old kids never change their minds, do they?
We should be sure to lose sleep over what a 16-year-old will do, especially when he has given no indication of backing off from a commitment.
Never lose an opportunity to be miserable over something, even if it's imaginary.
Guys, just for the record, I am hardly "miserable". I get "emotionally involved" in the results on the field of play on Saturday afternoons. Saturdays are much better when PSU wins and certainly not as fun when they lose. That is the extent of my emotional involvement regarding PSU football.
I do not spend one moment of my time following or worrying about where 16-18 year old kids decide to go to college. I am undoubtedly one of the least engaged fans on this board when it comes to recruiting. I don't subscribe or follow any of the recruiting sites or experts. I don't twitter, facebook, snapchat or anything else, so I have no idea what these kids are saying or doing except when something is posted/linked on this board. Sure, I am aware of recruiting simply because I follow this board.
Simply put, I start paying attention to these kids when they show up on the field at PSU. I am not disparaging those who are more interested in recruiting than I, but it's just not my thing.
Regarding my comments about our 2018 qb commit, I was recently talking to a friend of mine in Atlanta who is a big time Georgia fan and follows recruiting carefully. He was aware of this kid's commitment to PSU and thought highly of his talent level. He made some comment to me about how "UGA still intends to flip this kid" and I joked with him that if he was as good as he thought, UGA wouldn't be the only school in the southeast that will try to flip him.
Undoubtedly, the kid will continue to be pursued by every big time school in the SEC and ACC. That's hardly "making shit up". My opinion is that I will be surprised if he sticks with PSU and doesn't wind up closer to home. If he comes to PSU - that's great. I hope he leads us to the national championship in 2020. If he stays south, that's his choice. Either way, I won't lose any sleep over it.
Tell your friend that PSU is going to be the better team overall with the better offense until he enrolls. Fields is a part of a monster recruiting class we're going to sign. Talent begets talent. That's how it goes. Unless and until Moorhead leaves, this kid stays.Guys, just for the record, I am hardly "miserable". I get "emotionally involved" in the results on the field of play on Saturday afternoons. Saturdays are much better when PSU wins and certainly not as fun when they lose. That is the extent of my emotional involvement regarding PSU football.
I do not spend one moment of my time following or worrying about where 16-18 year old kids decide to go to college. I am undoubtedly one of the least engaged fans on this board when it comes to recruiting. I don't subscribe or follow any of the recruiting sites or experts. I don't twitter, facebook, snapchat or anything else, so I have no idea what these kids are saying or doing except when something is posted/linked on this board. Sure, I am aware of recruiting simply because I follow this board.
Simply put, I start paying attention to these kids when they show up on the field at PSU. I am not disparaging those who are more interested in recruiting than I, but it's just not my thing.
Regarding my comments about our 2018 qb commit, I was recently talking to a friend of mine in Atlanta who is a big time Georgia fan and follows recruiting carefully. He was aware of this kid's commitment to PSU and thought highly of his talent level. He made some comment to me about how "UGA still intends to flip this kid" and I joked with him that if he was as good as he thought, UGA wouldn't be the only school in the southeast that will try to flip him.
Undoubtedly, the kid will continue to be pursued by every big time school in the SEC and ACC. That's hardly "making shit up". My opinion is that I will be surprised if he sticks with PSU and doesn't wind up closer to home. If he comes to PSU - that's great. I hope he leads us to the national championship in 2020. If he stays south, that's his choice. Either way, I won't lose any sleep over it.
Question: with Stevens coming back and Clifford & Justin Fields coming in, will there be any movement to the current roster?
My attitude about recruiting is pretty much the same as yours- which is why I can't understand how or why you would form any opinion at all about this particular kid or of any other kid.Guys, just for the record, I am hardly "miserable". I get "emotionally involved" in the results on the field of play on Saturday afternoons. Saturdays are much better when PSU wins and certainly not as fun when they lose. That is the extent of my emotional involvement regarding PSU football.
I do not spend one moment of my time following or worrying about where 16-18 year old kids decide to go to college. I am undoubtedly one of the least engaged fans on this board when it comes to recruiting. I don't subscribe or follow any of the recruiting sites or experts. I don't twitter, facebook, snapchat or anything else, so I have no idea what these kids are saying or doing except when something is posted/linked on this board. Sure, I am aware of recruiting simply because I follow this board.
Simply put, I start paying attention to these kids when they show up on the field at PSU. I am not disparaging those who are more interested in recruiting than I, but it's just not my thing.
Regarding my comments about our 2018 qb commit, I was recently talking to a friend of mine in Atlanta who is a big time Georgia fan and follows recruiting carefully. He was aware of this kid's commitment to PSU and thought highly of his talent level. He made some comment to me about how "UGA still intends to flip this kid" and I joked with him that if he was as good as he thought, UGA wouldn't be the only school in the southeast that will try to flip him.
Undoubtedly, the kid will continue to be pursued by every big time school in the SEC and ACC. That's hardly "making shit up". My opinion is that I will be surprised if he sticks with PSU and doesn't wind up closer to home. If he comes to PSU - that's great. I hope he leads us to the national championship in 2020. If he stays south, that's his choice. Either way, I won't lose any sleep over it.