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[bjf1991]

The point being, if Ted Brown is the "village idiot" and a small, organized group of alumni were able to get him re-elected, shouldn't that be concerning? A massive University with a 5+ billion dollar budget and a special interest group of alumni got a guy re-elected who's #1 priority is honoring an ex coach. How is that any better than what we have now?

Maybe it's hard to get folks to voluntary opt to run for election - only to, if they win, spend their free time trying to combat assholes like Lubert, Dambly, Dandrea, Masser and the rest of that Cabal of Scoundrels

Especially if by doing so, even if they are successful- and even if they bust their balls to try to bring Righteous Governance to Penn State - much of the electorate doesn't seem to care much about anything but "football"

Maybe?

 

[Art]

Maybe it's hard to get folks to voluntary opt to run for election - only to, if they win, spend their free time trying to combat assholes like Lubert, Dambly, Dandrea, Masser and the rest of that Cabal of Scoundrels

Especially if by doing so, even if they are successful- and even if they bust their balls to try to bring Righteous Governance to Penn State - much of the electorate doesn't seem to care much about anything but "football"

Maybe?


In the mean time - Mr Jive Azzwipe - your "services" are not productive, so feel free to shove off

And maybe the village idiot is a better alternative than Dan Coccsucker. Nothing I've seen from any trustee causes me to stand up and applaud. Frankly, it's a goddamn clown show. You'd think that a great school like PSU could do better.

 

[manofsteel200]

Well, I believe that OSU is at around 18% with zero alumni elected representation. So maybe that should be the high point?

FWIW, I'm not against alumni representation, but it already is too high. They should be there to give a voice to the alumni, not to control decisions (which seems to be what people here want).

You actually like the decisions the other 50 people on the board are making? Who are you?

 

[Nellie R]

I'm just throwing out peer institutions. Is there a large public University with the same or more alumni elected representation that PSU has? Heck, how many can you find with ANY such representation?

The Auditor General before DePasquale, Jack Wagner already did that in 2012, and the results were supported by his successor. OGBOT decided to ignore it, brought in a "facilitator" who had no experience in that field, and cherry-picked non-peer institutions to make the Board even bigger.

http://www.paauditor.gov/press-rele...d-to-improve-penn-state-university-governance

 

[getmyjive11]

You actually like the decisions the other 50 people on the board are making? Who are you?

I never said that. Read the thread... I think the board needs to reduce it's size by at least 1/3.

 

[getmyjive11]

The Auditor General before DePasquale, Jack Wagner already did that in 2012, and the results were supported by his successor. OGBOT decided to ignore it, brought in a "facilitator" who had no experience in that field, and cherry-picked non-peer institutions to make the Board even bigger.

http://www.paauditor.gov/press-rele...d-to-improve-penn-state-university-governance

Yes, I know.

 

[Nellie R]

What happens with such low turnouts is that you get a group of trustees who care more about honoring a former coach than they do looking out for the good of the University. Groups like PS4RS can get a relatively small band of people together and overtake the election.

As I have posted above, most public Universities don't even have alumni elected trustees/regents. Most have their members appointed exclusively by the governor or elected via the general public. The thought being that this is a better representation of the state.

"Groups like PS4RS" whose stated mission is to push for the sorely needed Governance Reform that anyone who has ever watched a PSUBOT meeting since 11/2011 can see plainly?

What is NOT needed is the self-selection process of Ag and B&I trustees. There's where the fat needs to be trimmed.

 

[bjf1991]

The Auditor General before DePasquale, Jack Wagner already did that in 2012, and the results were supported by his successor. OGBOT decided to ignore it, brought in a "facilitator" who had no experience in that field, and cherry-picked non-peer institutions to make the Board even bigger.

http://www.paauditor.gov/press-rele...d-to-improve-penn-state-university-governance

What you say is correct. Further:

Wagner's recommendations were 99% worthless. Huge disappointment (I spoke w him back in early 2012, before he did his "report". I had hoped he was genuinely interested in righteous reform. As it turned out - he wasn't)

The dingbat the BOT Scoundrels brought in to try to lend some "weight" to their unholy stranglehold on the BOT - the supposed "expert", blubbering Holly Gregory (shows how deep they had to dredge to find someone to serve as their whore - what an idiotic POS she was) - well, she was 1,000 times worse (of course)

Yudichak's proposal - while certainly not perfect, and reminiscent of a "horse designed by a committee" - did have some promise
Makes you wonder why "our guys" on the Board have been so anxious to let that die?
(Just yet another governance FUBAR)

Either we elected a bunch of pussies, or elected a bunch of idiots, or something worse (and maybe the most likely answer) - - - - "our guys", as a whole (with maybe a couple of exceptions), are no more interested in righteous governance than the Scoundrels are.