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Any ideas on what the Clemson "culture" is all about?

I may be wrong here so correct me if I am wrong. There are two teams head and shoulders above the rest of college football. Both teams had nine players randomly selected for PEDs. Both teams had three of those nine fail. We don't know who the nine were (we know the three that failed). No other players were tested. So a 33% failure rate was realized. I don't know of any other programs that got hit for PED's beyond one here and there per school.

Do we think this is a coincidence?

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When I heard about Linemen benching 515lbs for 4 or 5 clean reps I knew it was only a matter of time before someone dropped a dime on these guys. The guys who tested positive either screwed up their cycles which means they got sloppy or weren't told when the test was going to take place. The bottom line is that PED are still prevalent in college football.
 
Interesting angle that probably only works in the south. I can’t imagine that religious references from Franklin, Day or Helton would go over that well at their respective schools. I don’t recall Kelly at Notre Dame ever making any sort of religious references even.

I believe I once read Kelly's lips to say "Holy F--k!". So there's that.
 
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It’s the same stuff Meyer has been peddling but more believable because now the world knows Urban is a dirt bag. I suspect at one point we will find out if Dabo is the genuine article or not.

Certainly most on this board will find out he is not... mainly because that is what they want to find.
I'm certain the local sleuths will dig up some article from 2016 where a recruit was told one thing and another happened.
Then perhaps there will be a tragedy related... extremely loosely to the program, and Dabo will then become the devil.

LdN
 
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The culture is paying young men to take PEDs and play football. The NCAA culture of enforcement is dead after Judge Covey and UNC got done with them.
 
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Clemson's culture = weird Southern Evangelical Christianity. Check out Trevor Lawrence's Instagram account, super strange religious stuff - unless your in to that hocus locus stuff.
There is a ton of religiosity in pro sports; especially football. There has been a lot of talk about Cody Parky, pointing to the sky, after his miss....lots of class and respect for giving thanks even after a miss.

People miss the point of religion in sports. They don't pray to win. They pray to stay humble, to give them strength, to hope for good health, to give thanks for the opportunity. Obviously, it works for many people. I am not sure why people complain about this. Jealousy? I mean, it is like someone complaining about people that work hard, don't drink and don't smoke. It works for them...be happy. Its OK if you don't understand it...but don't complain about it.
 
Um, have you ever BEEN to Alabama???
I often wondered how the SEC hushed up their proud saying,football isn't a sport it's a religion.Which coincided with the timing of Bama's new dominance and the Sandusky scandal.
 
There is a ton of religiosity in pro sports; especially football. There has been a lot of talk about Cody Parky, pointing to the sky, after his miss....lots of class and respect for giving thanks even after a miss.

People miss the point of religion in sports. They don't pray to win. They pray to stay humble, to give them strength, to hope for good health, to give thanks for the opportunity. Obviously, it works for many people. I am not sure why people complain about this. Jealousy? I mean, it is like someone complaining about people that work hard, don't drink and don't smoke. It works for them...be happy. Its OK if you don't understand it...but don't complain about it.

I didn't complain about it because it seems to be working for Clemson, just said the Evangelical Southern sh*t seems weird to me. Kind of like Catholic priests raping and covering it up for hundreds of years is weird.
 
Swinney's first words to the media were; All the credit, all the glory goes to the good Lord. So a strong religious component is my guess.

All the money goes to the coaches and the university, the players just get an upgrade to their cars.
 
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I didn't complain about it because it seems to be working for Clemson, just said the Evangelical Southern sh*t seems weird to me. Kind of like Catholic priests raping and covering it up for hundreds of years is weird.
I get it...you want to take shots..can't help yourself...check. You forgot to talk about boyscouts, PSU, Sparty, tOSU, hollywood, CBS...congress...hell, every large organization is guilty of not doing enough to protect kids.

If you don't want religion, don't go. Simple fix.
 
All the God and sports stuff reminds me of this classic story about John Gotti. The FBI had put a bug in a ceiling lamp of his Social Club office.

Anyway, the FBI was listening in on things one Sunday during a slate of NFL games. Gotti was taking a beating - losing almost every bet he made. Gotti finally became exasperated and yelled out something like - “God, why are you such a mothereffin’ Fa-got!!!”

The FBI guys literally were rolling on the floor laughing after that.
 
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I get it...you want to take shots..can't help yourself...check. You forgot to talk about boyscouts, PSU, Sparty, tOSU, hollywood, CBS...congress...hell, every large organization is guilty of not doing enough to protect kids.

If you don't want religion, don't go. Simple fix.

Unless of course you're born in Williamsburg, where you have no choice.

LdN
 
Dabo culture - Franklin culture who knows.....On campus it's akin to SEC fanaticism with plenty of southern belle hoochie coochie and perhaps a bagman or two :eek:
Well the bagman could have delivered the WR from Bama
 
Mr. Alabama football, signed with Clemson because of the family atmosphere. First top. Bama recruit to not sign with the Tide since J. Winston signed with FSU.
 
I saw it somewhere well said, Clemson is a school that wanted to be a big time football school and took the steps necessary to become just that.

last week ESPN was running the stories of how/why Bowden was pushed out and Dabo was inserted as interim. the South Carolina win evidently was key in keeping the job. he seems very outwardly religious (surprised that is even possible on any college campus these days). the guy comes across very genuine on the surface. southern charm.

the culture thing feels like it is not entirely genuine, but none of us know for sure - or even what it really means. He did take a starting QB and benched him for a FR so performance culture and no loyalty involved. that is probably less than the loyalty we have at PSU. also, bet that we might have fewer PED drug test failures than Clemson (just speculating there). not trying to paint them as evil empire - just scrape some of the purity luster off in a couple places.
 
Because, or course, the Lord really gives a damn about who wins a football game. So if Clemson gives credit to the Lord for winning, does that mean Alabama can blame the Lord for the loss?? o_O
I think we need Felli to weigh in on this. :cool:
 
One of the first things Dabo said in his post game speech was that for him,joy comes from focusing on Jesus, then others, and then himself. In that order. People gravitate towards people like that. A good chunk of the world focuses on themselves first and their own personal needs.

Zig Ziglar used to say you'll get all you want in life if you just help enough other people get what THEY want. Its a different way to live - I haven't been to Clemson but I'm guessing their culture has its roots in that central theme.

Sounds like Venezuela. If true, I don't know who would want to go there.
 
I think t ulture is about positivity, fun, and fath. Clemson believes in getting the right fit of player into their program, as opposed to THE highest ranked players.
 
Because, or course, the Lord really gives a damn about who wins a football game. So if Clemson gives credit to the Lord for winning, does that mean Alabama can blame the Lord for the loss?? o_O
Your post shows a fundamental misunderstanding of Christian faith, or really any other faith for that matter, but by all means continue to think your commentary was insightful.
 
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Well they definitely over achieved by there recruiting classes as there avg 2013-17 was 11.8 nationally ranked highest was 4th lowest was 22 according to rivals and they were 8th in 2018 rankings.
 
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