Anyone else catch Wan-stache's diatribe about Dantonio & MSU "upsetting" PSU? He should have...

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

...just come out and said that O'Neill's cheating shizhole crew is on "upset duty" in Beaver Stadium....blah, blah, blah...."this upset opens up the door for daO$U to win the B1G because they're going to beat scUM...."......blah, blah, blah.

Essentially, he said daO$U is going to win in the early game and the b1g shizhole will want daO$U to win the Conference Title.......therefore I believe that 1-7, and 0-3 for road games, in b1g play MSU and Dantonio will find a way (i.e., read John O'Neill & cheating b1g shizhole crew on assignment...) to pull the upset.....blah, blah, blah.....blah, blah, blah.....

Sadly, I believe the cheating b1g shizhole is going to send a crew to Beaver Stadium to allow MSU to play absolute rugby on Saturday and mug PSU's Front 7, which leads the league in conference play with 24 sacks through 8 b1g games (i.e., average of 3 sacks per b1g game) - how much you want to bet its coming??? MSU is the MOST HEAVILY PENALIZED TEAM in b1g play (56 penalties for 497 yards through 8 b1g games - i.e., 7 penalties per b1g contest for 62.1 ypg - IOW, MSU has been called for tons of "holding" in their first 8 b1g games), while PSU has been penalized for 43 times for 365 yards or a shade over 5 penalties per game for 45.6 ypg......how much you want to bet that MSU wins the "net penalty yardage" advantage in this game despite coming into the game as the MOST PENALIZED TEAM IN CONFERCE PLAY through 8 conference games and having a -16.5 yard "net penalty disadvantage" to PSU through 8 b1g games???

 

[GreggK]

To be honest, wouldn't they want us to win since that would mean the BIG would most likely have TWO teams in the playoffs rather than just one?

 

[eilion]

To be honest, wouldn't they want us to win since that would mean the BIG would most likely have TWO teams in the playoffs rather than just one?

In theory yes, but also don't think they want to hear Delaney booed by PSU fans in Indy.

 

[mean15]

Beat 'em by 5 touchdowns. Make the officials a non factor.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

To be honest, wouldn't they want us to win since that would mean the BIG would most likely have TWO teams in the playoffs rather than just one?

You funny!!!!

 

[lionville]

To be honest, wouldn't they want us to win since that would mean the BIG would most likely have TWO teams in the playoffs rather than just one?

This IS the best outcome for the BIG and Delaney. His ego wants two teams in the playoffs. He's tired hearing how the SEC is the best conference. If OSU wins in the matinee I say the fix is in for us to win along with Wiscy.

The BIG championship game is where we get screwed. Alvarez will then make sure his team is in the playoffs.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

...just come out and said that O'Neill's cheating shizhole crew is on "upset duty" in Beaver Stadium....blah, blah, blah...."this upset opens up the door for daO$U to win the B1G because they're going to beat scUM...."......blah, blah, blah.

Essentially, he said daO$U is going to win in the early game and the b1g shizhole will want daO$U to win the Conference Title.......therefore I believe that 1-7, and 0-3 for road games, in b1g play MSU and Dantonio will find a way (i.e., read John O'Neill & cheating b1g shizhole crew on assignment...) to pull the upset.....blah, blah, blah.....blah, blah, blah.....

Sadly, I believe the cheating b1g shizhole is going to send a crew to Beaver Stadium to allow MSU to play absolute rugby on Saturday and mug PSU's Front 7, which leads the league in conference play with 24 sacks through 8 b1g games (i.e., average of 3 sacks per b1g game) - how much you want to bet its coming??? MSU is the MOST HEAVILY PENALIZED TEAM in b1g play (56 penalties for 497 yards through 8 b1g games - i.e., 7 penalties per b1g contest for 62.1 ypg - IOW, MSU has been called for tons of "holding" in their first 8 b1g games), while PSU has been penalized for 43 times for 365 yards or a shade over 5 penalties per game for 45.6 ypg......how much you want to bet that MSU wins the "net penalty yardage" advantage in this game despite coming into the game as the MOST PENALIZED TEAM IN CONFERCE PLAY through 8 conference games and having a -16.5 yard "net penalty disadvantage" to PSU through 8 b1g games???

I fully anticipate multiple "ghost" major penalties wiping out huge PSU plays and stalling the drive on the backside of the penalty (i.e., not only wiping out the huge play, but also creating a 1st, 2nd or 3rd and forever situation stalling out the drive and creating a massive change in field position if not also taking a score off the board....), while at the same time calling almost no penalties, especially "offensive holding", on the most heavily penalized team in b1g conference play - MSU.

 

[Art]

...just come out and said that O'Neill's cheating shizhole crew is on "upset duty" in Beaver Stadium....blah, blah, blah...."this upset opens up the door for daO$U to win the B1G because they're going to beat scUM...."......blah, blah, blah.

Essentially, he said daO$U is going to win in the early game and the b1g shizhole will want daO$U to win the Conference Title.......therefore I believe that 1-7, and 0-3 for road games, in b1g play MSU and Dantonio will find a way (i.e., read John O'Neill & cheating b1g shizhole crew on assignment...) to pull the upset.....blah, blah, blah.....blah, blah, blah.....

Sadly, I believe the cheating b1g shizhole is going to send a crew to Beaver Stadium to allow MSU to play absolute rugby on Saturday and mug PSU's Front 7, which leads the league in conference play with 24 sacks through 8 b1g games (i.e., average of 3 sacks per b1g game) - how much you want to bet its coming??? MSU is the MOST HEAVILY PENALIZED TEAM in b1g play (56 penalties for 497 yards through 8 b1g games - i.e., 7 penalties per b1g contest for 62.1 ypg - IOW, MSU has been called for tons of "holding" in their first 8 b1g games), while PSU has been penalized for 43 times for 365 yards or a shade over 5 penalties per game for 45.6 ypg......how much you want to bet that MSU wins the "net penalty yardage" advantage in this game despite coming into the game as the MOST PENALIZED TEAM IN CONFERCE PLAY through 8 conference games and having a -16.5 yard "net penalty disadvantage" to PSU through 8 b1g games???

So Delany really went to Yale and is a member of Skull & Bones? Who knew?

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

The caveat is that he can't be 100% certain that tosu is a lock for the final 4 if they don't make it to the CCG. The committee may decide to all but mandate that only conference champs are allowed to the dance. That said, does he take a chance that his darling buckeyes might get left out at the expense of us or Wisky? I say "no" and that he'll go ahead and sick his zebras on us.

 

[bkmtnittany1]

If Oneill shows up you know it's because Delany wants him here. Expect to see the line judge from Remember the Titans directly in front of CJF....

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

The caveat is that he can't be 100% certain that tosu is a lock for the final 4 if they don't make it to the CCG. The committee may decide to all but mandate that only conference champs are allowed to the dance. That said, does he take a chance that his darling buckeyes might get left out at the expense of us or Wisky? I say "no" and that he'll go ahead and sick his zebras on us.

Exactly, if daO$U doesn't have a Conference Championship or even a B1G East Division Crown, D-Bag Delany risks daO$U getting passed-over for SEC Champ Bama, ACC Champ Clemson, B1G Champion and Pac12 Champ Washington......(i.e., replay of what happened to TCU in 2014 - being dropped 3 spots for not having a Conference, or even Divisional, Championship to their name.....).

 

[Judge Smails]

To be honest, wouldn't they want us to win since that would mean the BIG would most likely have TWO teams in the playoffs rather than just one?

The biggest screw job in officiating I've ever seen in the Big Ten, and it's a long list, was the 2005 Michigan game when we came in undefeated with a real chance to play for a championship. Michigan was having a poor season, should have been no reason to give us the business. It's never "official policy" to f us over, it's just some Big Ten refs/crews have personal bias that they let get in the way.

 

[21Guns]

You can bet your damn ass that Delany will send his most crooked crew to State College this week and that crew will be handing out the shadiest, most phantom penalties against PSU that can possibly be handed out.

Franklin once again has nailed it.

We need to beat both Mich. St. and the officials this Saturday. We will get it done but it will take a hefty job.

 

[Option Bob]

The biggest screw job in officiating I've ever seen in the Big Ten, and it's a long list, was the 2005 Michigan game when we came in undefeated with a real chance to play for a championship. Michigan was having a poor season, should have been no reason to give us the business. It's never "official policy" to f us over, it's just some Big Ten refs/crews have personal bias that they let get in the way.

Judge, I agree with you completely that there is no "official policy" to screw Penn State, i.e., no "conspiracy." However, I do question why the conference, after surely being made aware of O'Neill's calls against Penn State over the years ("spiking the ball in anger"? instant replay didn't work? "Shut up; you're lucky to be playing"?) would assign an official who clearly has a negative bias toward a member school to call such an important game involving that same school. Are officials drawn at random from a hat?

 

[BobPSU92]

If Oneill shows up you know it's because Delany wants him here. Expect to see the line judge from Remember the Titans directly in front of CJF....

"You call this game fair or I'll go to the papers."

 

[bkmtnittany1]

"You make them remember, forever, the nite they played the Titans!"

 

[KPG55]

I should know better . . . like watching an Amtrak train rounding the corner in Fishtown

 

[Peetz Pool Boy]

...just come out and said that O'Neill's cheating shizhole crew is on "upset duty" in Beaver Stadium....blah, blah, blah...."this upset opens up the door for daO$U to win the B1G because they're going to beat scUM...."......blah, blah, blah.

Essentially, he said daO$U is going to win in the early game and the b1g shizhole will want daO$U to win the Conference Title.......therefore I believe that 1-7, and 0-3 for road games, in b1g play MSU and Dantonio will find a way (i.e., read John O'Neill & cheating b1g shizhole crew on assignment...) to pull the upset.....blah, blah, blah.....blah, blah, blah.....

Sadly, I believe the cheating b1g shizhole is going to send a crew to Beaver Stadium to allow MSU to play absolute rugby on Saturday and mug PSU's Front 7, which leads the league in conference play with 24 sacks through 8 b1g games (i.e., average of 3 sacks per b1g game) - how much you want to bet its coming??? MSU is the MOST HEAVILY PENALIZED TEAM in b1g play (56 penalties for 497 yards through 8 b1g games - i.e., 7 penalties per b1g contest for 62.1 ypg - IOW, MSU has been called for tons of "holding" in their first 8 b1g games), while PSU has been penalized for 43 times for 365 yards or a shade over 5 penalties per game for 45.6 ypg......how much you want to bet that MSU wins the "net penalty yardage" advantage in this game despite coming into the game as the MOST PENALIZED TEAM IN CONFERCE PLAY through 8 conference games and having a -16.5 yard "net penalty disadvantage" to PSU through 8 b1g games???

Aside from the premature "like" I was awarded by mn78psu83, I offer the following.

For once, we almost agree on everything, but there is one point on which we differ.

Ron Snodgrass & Crew will appear in State College. Ron has become the B1G's preferred "Agent of Desired Outcomes"

 

[mn78psu83]

. Aside from the premature "like" I was awarded by mn78psu83, I offer the following.

For once, we almost agree on everything, but there is one point on which we differ.

Ron Snodgrass &Crew will appear in State College. Ron has become the "B1G Agent of Choice"

I thought you had highlighted this in red - 16.5 yard "net penalty disadvantage". It was already in Professor B.'s original post. Howling.

 

[Peetz Pool Boy]

I thought you had highlighted this in red - 16.5 yard "net penalty disadvantage". It was already in Professor B.'s original post. Howling.

You're not normally a sucker. The OP, for some strange reason, decided to adopt CR66's preferred response form (red font embodied in the original post), which was "perplexing"

Someday, when I'm sufficiently motivated, I'm going to reappear as as modified form of CR66..but I'll choose blue font.

 

[olelion]

I ignore Wannstedt. Not because of his Pitt ties but because he doesn't do his homework beforehand. So many times he was flat out wrong on stuff it was obvious he didn't prep. Oh, he is a poster boy for yinzer elocution though.

 

[rmclion]

...just come out and said that O'Neill's cheating shizhole crew is on "upset duty" in Beaver Stadium....blah, blah, blah...."this upset opens up the door for daO$U to win the B1G because they're going to beat scUM...."......blah, blah, blah.

Essentially, he said daO$U is going to win in the early game and the b1g shizhole will want daO$U to win the Conference Title.......therefore I believe that 1-7, and 0-3 for road games, in b1g play MSU and Dantonio will find a way (i.e., read John O'Neill & cheating b1g shizhole crew on assignment...) to pull the upset.....blah, blah, blah.....blah, blah, blah.....

Sadly, I believe the cheating b1g shizhole is going to send a crew to Beaver Stadium to allow MSU to play absolute rugby on Saturday and mug PSU's Front 7, which leads the league in conference play with 24 sacks through 8 b1g games (i.e., average of 3 sacks per b1g game) - how much you want to bet its coming??? MSU is the MOST HEAVILY PENALIZED TEAM in b1g play (56 penalties for 497 yards through 8 b1g games - i.e., 7 penalties per b1g contest for 62.1 ypg - IOW, MSU has been called for tons of "holding" in their first 8 b1g games), while PSU has been penalized for 43 times for 365 yards or a shade over 5 penalties per game for 45.6 ypg......how much you want to bet that MSU wins the "net penalty yardage" advantage in this game despite coming into the game as the MOST PENALIZED TEAM IN CONFERCE PLAY through 8 conference games and having a -16.5 yard "net penalty disadvantage" to PSU through 8 b1g games???

I guess throwing out a conspiracy theory as fact (even before it happens) is cool these days in Trumpland. Sounds like a prepared excuse. Michigan State is woefully lacking at quarterback. No need for excuses, Penn State cruises.

 

[richmin3]

I ignore Wannstedt. Not because of his Pitt ties but because he doesn't do his homework beforehand. So many times he was flat out wrong on stuff it was obvious he didn't prep. Oh, he is a poster boy for yinzer elocution though.

Whats most surprising about his anti PSU bias is how he was unceremoniously dumped at Pitt. They couldn't wait to fire his ass.

 

[ClarkstonMark]

you're like the kid who cried wolf .... pathetic really.
complain about the refs every single game
sooner or later a blind squirrel will find his nuts

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

I ignore Wannstedt. Not because of his Pitt ties but because he doesn't do his homework beforehand. So many times he was flat out wrong on stuff it was obvious he didn't prep. Oh, he is a poster boy for yinzer elocution though.

Yea, 'ole Porn-Stache has learned well from another ASWP-turned E-spin Sith-Master of "damning with faint praise"......Beano The Hut Cook. The yinzer ASWP fans are so jealous of PSU being "little brother" to PSU's Nationally-Recognized "Tradition" and All-Time Top 10 ever program status....always have been, always will be....sad really and they wonder why they have not fan-base of their own - they're more consumed with tearing PSU down than building ASWP up.....

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Whats most surprising about his anti PSU bias is how he was unceremoniously dumped at Pitt. They couldn't wait to fire his ass.

The anti-PSU Sith force runs strong in this one just like his ASWP turned E-spin Sith Master, Beano The Hut Cook......

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

you're like the kid who cried wolf .... pathetic really.
complain about the refs every single game
sooner or later a blind squirrel will find his nuts

Gee, THIS ARTICLE would suggest that I'm hardly the only party that thinks O'Neill's crew is corrupt citing multiple PSU screw-jobs over multiple years (a track-record which includes O'Neill telling McMoxy to "Shut-up, you're lucky you're even playing at all." - yea, no overt "bias" there LMFAO!). I love the closing line cited in the article too:

To quote Joseph Heller, “Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t after you.”

Yea, but keep telling yourself I'm the only one who realizes that O'Neill and the b1g shizhole are beyond disgracefully corrupt in regards to "institutional bias" against PSU....

 

[LRob]

you guys worried about the refs having it in for you vs. an 3-8 team? The ultimate paranoia

 

[NittanyOpp]

If we want to be elite, don't leave it up to the refs....a lot of games historically where no way in hell refs came in to play when we used to thrash Sparty final game of year. Just beat them, pound them like we should if we are elite.

 

[LafayetteBear]

The fact that some of you guys have these B1G referees' names committed to memory is scary. It makes me wonder if some of this anti-PSU bias stuff is as widespread as some here have speculated. I will certainly be watching this Saturday, but I think the Lions are gonna pound MSU. At least I hope so. I want them to make officiating issues completely irrelevant to the outcome of the game.

 

[21Guns]

A HUGE factor that will make this difficult for these shizholes to screw us, AND THEY WILL ATTEMPT TO SCREW US, but a HUGE factor that will make it too obvious, is that Michigan st is BY FAR the most penalized team in the conference, going into the game, and one of the most penalized teams in the NATION in fact. This MIGHT help us at least a little bit, making it very hard for them to do their usual phantom call/mystery call act on us.

 

[21Guns]

you guys worried about the refs having it in for you vs. an 3-8 team? The ultimate paranoia

Your plow boy conference made us this way with 25 years of straight up the ass screw jobs.

 

[N&B4PSU]

Your plow boy conference made us this way with 25 years of straight up the ass screw jobs.

...that and the 3-8 team has been playing strong of late and just took osu AT OSU to the wire and could have walked out with an 18-17 win instead of a 17-16 loss. So yeah, a little concern is in order.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

...that and the 3-8 team has been playing strong of late and just took osu AT OSU to the wire and could have walked out with an 18-17 win instead of a 17-16 loss. So yeah, a little concern is in order.

Wrong, the daO$U - MSU game was played @ Spartan Stadium, not The Shoe. MSU is 0-3 in b1g road games to-date losing @IND, @UMd, and @ILL, which is why it's ludicrous to claim that they're going to waltz into Beaver Stadium and win their 1st b1g road game this season in one of the most difficult, if not the most difficult, road venues in the nation against arguably the hottest team in the nation riding a 7-game b1g win streak outscoring b1g opponents 36-22 on average (in its 8 b1g games to-date, MSU has been outscored 25-27). IOW, playing a near identical b1g East Division Conference Schedule, MSU has given up 5 more points per game, while scoring 11 less points per b1g game than PSU, which is precisely why PSU is leading the B1G East Division at 7-1 and MSU is in the basement at 1-7....on top of the game being played @ The Beav!

 

[N&B4PSU]

Wrong, the daO$U - MSU game was played @ Spartan Stadium, not The Shoe. MSU is 0-3 in b1g road games to-date losing @IND, @UMd, and @ILL, which is why it's ludicrous to claim that they're going to waltz into Beaver Stadium and win their 1st b1g road game this season in one of the most difficult, if not the most difficult, road venues in the nation against arguably the hottest team in the nation riding a 7-game b1g win streak outscoring b1g opponents 36-22 on average (in its 8 b1g games to-date, MSU has been outscored 25-27). IOW, playing a near identical b1g East Division Conference Schedule, MSU has given up 5 more points per game, while scoring 11 less points per b1g game than PSU, which is precisely why PSU is leading the B1G East Division at 7-1 and MSU is in the basement at 1-7....on top of the game being played @ The Beav!

MY bad on locale... and yes, that matters in my assessment. However, this is not a white-out night game and it is a game where student representation is an unknown. If we show up and fill the stadium and scream like banshees, we have home field advantage. anything else, and it is a weakness. I stand firm on this one.. this is the most dangerous test of all because it is senior's day for both teams and the pressure is squarely on us. and the bunch we are facing is big and strong.

hoping we respond like champs but that is a physical bunch with a lot of anger coming to town.

and yes, i would happily be dead wrong and enjoy a nice 38-21 waltz.

something few are mentioning.. what happens if UM beats osu and we know pre-game that all we are playing is game 12. does the air go out of the balloon? yes, we're playing to impress and get a good bowl but it is hardly in the same vein as playing for the B1G champos game and a shot at the playoffs. There seems this certainty osu will beat um (based on history)... here's hoping they make it so.

 

[LRob]

Your plow boy conference made us this way with 25 years of straight up the ass screw jobs.

Look MSU has got the short end of the draw from the BIG for a lot longer than 25 years, so we know all about that. Nevertheless when your conference record is 7-1 and your opponent is 1-7...then you just need to handle your biz...period!

 

[royboy]

So Delany really went to Yale and is a member of Skull & Bones? Who knew?

 

[21Guns]

Look MSU has got the short end of the draw from the BIG for a lot longer than 25 years, so we know all about that. Nevertheless when your conference record is 7-1 and your opponent is 1-7...then you just need to handle your biz...period!

You sound a little cocky to me. Period.

 

[LukeIamYourFather]

The B1G is so much better at hiding the stripes advantage than some imply. They have figured out which penalties end up in the box score and are generally inconsequential and they know which ones add little to the box score but (as some point out) bring back a huge play or hugely affect momentum.

They can call games with extreme bias while having the box score show a penalty advantage the opposite way. The key is in the timing of a big penalty and those that negate big plays vice those which show yardage but have little impact on momentum.

Also, don't discount the crazy obvious turnover called incorrect on the field and amazingly not reversed on replay (or unavailable replay) as we have seen. That doesn't officially show up in a box score either. Then there are the bad spots which we almost accept will happen half a dozen times in a game to the favor of the Big 2 or against anyone who may threaten them.