Anyone else entertained by Delaney's actions last year probably costing the B1G millions of dollars

[itsofficial101]

If Ohio St were to beat Wisconsin, the B1G being left out will certainly be the product of Delaney. Last year he tacitly approved of a 1 loss division runner up being in over a conference champ. His choice of supporting the limp-wristed Buckeyes who went out, quit, and were humiliated 31-0 over an exciting and peaking Penn St hurt the B1G big time.

Now he has no leg to stand on with a fluke 1 point home win on a blocked kick 2 loss Ohio St with legit eye test 1 loss Alabama sitting at home locking in their ticket. Also, the Buckeye's quitting in the playoff last year combined with their quitting against unranked Iowa (31 point loss to an unranked team?) again this year would make them a choice that carries way too much risk of completely exposing the committee as frauds due Ohio St's recent propensity to simply quit. And the result of Delaney's bias last year will cost the B1G millions of dollars this year. I think it's hilarious.

 

[psuro]

Awesome.

 

[We Are . . .]

Good thing he still has our bowl money.

 

[AWS1022]

Good thing he still has our bowl money.

Maybe he will pass a law that states the Big gets our bowl money again this year since it's our fault the Big is in this situation and we need to make up the shortfall....and all of it of course would be approved by our BOT along with a written apology.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

If Ohio St were to beat Wisconsin, the B1G being left out will certainly be the product of Delaney. Last year he tacitly approved of a 1 loss division runner up being in over a conference champ. His choice of supporting the limp-wristed Buckeyes who went out, quit, and were humiliated 31-0 over an exciting and peaking Penn St hurt the B1G big time.

Now he has no leg to stand on with a fluke 1 point home win on a blocked kick 2 loss Ohio St with legit eye test 1 loss Alabama sitting at home locking in their ticket. Also, the Buckeye's quitting in the playoff last year combined with their quitting against unranked Iowa (31 point loss to an unranked team?) again this year would make them a choice that carries way too much risk of completely exposing the committee as frauds due Ohio St's recent propensity to simply quit. And the result of Delaney's bias last year will cost the B1G millions of dollars this year. I think it's hilarious.

I wholeheartedly enjoyed this rant.

Delaney’s House Boys on this board - you know who you are - will be apoplectic

 

[dwiz]

Obviously the camera man that injured Barrett (that nobody saw or has any evidence of) was a B1G plant, in order to take out the starting qb, leaving O$U with a sub par backup qb in the championship game so Wisconsin will easily dispose of them allowing Wisc to be in the playoffs, keeping Bama out, allowing the money to keep flowing to Indianapolis for another year, with a not so small fraction of the dough taking a detour to Columbus in the form of cars & tattoos for the players, and papa john's pizza and a golf cart for the coach.

 

[JWB389]

Unfortunately, I think the winner of the B10 Champ game goes to the playoff. I am drinking the talk radio kool-aid. Don't like it, but I think OSU goes if they win.

 

[PSU.:.]

OSU can suck my b$lls
Neither of those teams deserve a playoff spot unless Wisconsin wins convincingly.
Wisky schedule is about as challenging as YSU and OSU is a two loss team who got embarrassed by Iowa.

 

[Art]

If Ohio St were to beat Wisconsin, the B1G being left out will certainly be the product of Delaney. Last year he tacitly approved of a 1 loss division runner up being in over a conference champ. His choice of supporting the limp-wristed Buckeyes who went out, quit, and were humiliated 31-0 over an exciting and peaking Penn St hurt the B1G big time.

Now he has no leg to stand on with a fluke 1 point home win on a blocked kick 2 loss Ohio St with legit eye test 1 loss Alabama sitting at home locking in their ticket. Also, the Buckeye's quitting in the playoff last year combined with their quitting against unranked Iowa (31 point loss to an unranked team?) again this year would make them a choice that carries way too much risk of completely exposing the committee as frauds due Ohio St's recent propensity to simply quit. And the result of Delaney's bias last year will cost the B1G millions of dollars this year. I think it's hilarious.

Millions? By the time the difference in payout between a playoff semi and another NY6 boll is divvied up, it would barely pay the dry cleaning bill that Indiana Fats would incur after a BoT lunch buffet.

I honestly don't know what anyone expected Delany to do that would have changed the committee's decision last year. He's a piece of shit, but nowhere near an omnipotent one.

 

[cvilleelkscoach]

The worst part of Saturday's game, Penn State won't be there to boo Delaney

 

[NittPicker]

The worst part of Saturday's game, Penn State won't be there to boo Delaney

The big question.... Will Delany be able to bring himself to actually say the name of the winning team?

 

[TenerHallTerror]

OSU can suck my b$lls
Neither of those teams deserve a playoff spot unless Wisconsin wins convincingly.
Wisky schedule is about as challenging as YSU and OSU is a two loss team who got embarrassed by Iowa.

well let's also consider, the conference alignment is due to:

PSU vs OSU = $$$
PSU vs MI = $$$
PSU vs MSU = $$$
OSU vs MI = $$$
OSU vs MSU = $$$
MI vs MSU = $$$

so they give Wisky a bit of a padded schedule where even a half decent team can run the table

 

[ga.lion]

If Ohio St were to beat Wisconsin, the B1G being left out will certainly be the product of Delaney. Last year he tacitly approved of a 1 loss division runner up being in over a conference champ. His choice of supporting the limp-wristed Buckeyes who went out, quit, and were humiliated 31-0 over an exciting and peaking Penn St hurt the B1G big time.

Now he has no leg to stand on with a fluke 1 point home win on a blocked kick 2 loss Ohio St with legit eye test 1 loss Alabama sitting at home locking in their ticket. Also, the Buckeye's quitting in the playoff last year combined with their quitting against unranked Iowa (31 point loss to an unranked team?) again this year would make them a choice that carries way too much risk of completely exposing the committee as frauds due Ohio St's recent propensity to simply quit. And the result of Delaney's bias last year will cost the B1G millions of dollars this year. I think it's hilarious.

While he was dead wrong last year I think the winner of the Big Ten championship game gets in. Wisconsin is obvious if they win and despite 2 losses Ohio State will have more big wins than either Alabama or Georgia assuming Auburn wins. If Georgia wins, a 3 loss Auburn team is obviously out. If the committee held 2 losses against you this year, Auburn wouldn't be 2nd ranked going into this weeks games. Delaney has some national power and the Ohio State AD is on the committee. I think it takes an Oklahoma loss to get Alabama to move up from 5. Just my guess...........Go WISCONSIN

 

[AWS1022]

While he was dead wrong last year I think the winner of the Big Ten championship game gets in. Wisconsin is obvious if they win and despite 2 losses Ohio State will have more big wins than either Alabama or Georgia assuming Auburn wins. If Georgia wins, a 3 loss Auburn team is obviously out. If the committee held 2 losses against you this year, Auburn wouldn't be 2nd ranked going into this weeks games. Delaney has some national power and the Ohio State AD is on the committee. I think it takes an Oklahoma loss to get Alabama to move up from 5. Just my guess...........Go WISCONSIN

It's more than just the number of losses, it's how they lost.

 

[NewEra 2014]

It's more than just the number of losses, it's how they lost.

Last year, the rationale for keeping Penn State out was our "bad loss" against Michigan. No one looked at how many LB's were out, or that one of our remaining LB's was ejected for a bogus targeting call by the referines early in the game.

So I do not want to hear any noise about OSU deserving to be in this CFP beauty contest this year. If OSU makes the 4-team field, there is no hope for this sport. Hell, Penn State deserves to be in the "playoff" more than OSU based on last year's rationale for keeping us out.

 

[Cosmos]

Obviously the camera man that injured Barrett (that nobody saw or has any evidence of) was a B1G plant, in order to take out the starting qb, leaving O$U with a sub par backup qb in the championship game so Wisconsin will easily dispose of them allowing Wisc to be in the playoffs, keeping Bama out, allowing the money to keep flowing to Indianapolis for another year, with a not so small fraction of the dough taking a detour to Columbus in the form of cars & tattoos for the players, and papa john's pizza and a golf cart for the coach.

I luv it! It's like gravy for the brain...

 

[Cosmos]

While he was dead wrong last year I think the winner of the Big Ten championship game gets in. Wisconsin is obvious if they win and despite 2 losses Ohio State will have more big wins than either Alabama or Georgia assuming Auburn wins. If Georgia wins, a 3 loss Auburn team is obviously out. If the committee held 2 losses against you this year, Auburn wouldn't be 2nd ranked going into this weeks games. Delaney has some national power and the Ohio State AD is on the committee. I think it takes an Oklahoma loss to get Alabama to move up from 5. Just my guess...........Go WISCONSIN

Apples to oranges comparison. A 2-loss Auburn is ranked because it beat undefeated Georgia and Alabama late-in-the-season. Delaney might have some power but Ahia State isn't getting in ahead of Bama, providing it comes down to that.

 

[joeparules]

Half of me wants the current Top 4 to all win tomorrow, since that would mean no Bama (3 of 3) or O$U (2 of 3) in the "playoffs" for the first time. I can't imagine the committee jumping Bama over any of the four?! It could also move PSU all the way up to #6.

The other half wants to see all four of them lose to cause maximum chaos. Who are the Top 4 if that happens? Clearly UGA and Bama would be in while Auburn is definitely out, but who are the other two in? Miami? O$U? Would Clemson, OU or Whisky still have a strong enough case to stay in? This is obviously the worst scenario for PSU's ranking ... could drop out of Top 10 if TCU and USC (beating Stanford) jump them.

All said and done I guess I would rather see the first scenario ... more positives with no Bama/O$U and a better ranking and bowl game for PSU!

 

[ILLINOISLION]

Obviously the camera man that injured Barrett (that nobody saw or has any evidence of) was a B1G plant, in order to take out the starting qb, leaving O$U with a sub par backup qb in the championship game so Wisconsin will easily dispose of them allowing Wisc to be in the playoffs, keeping Bama out, allowing the money to keep flowing to Indianapolis for another year, with a not so small fraction of the dough taking a detour to Columbus in the form of cars & tattoos for the players, and papa john's pizza and a golf cart for the coach.

JMHO - but the cameraman did tOSU a HUGE favor.

UMich was leading when Barrett went out of the game and it was tOSU back-up QB that made the plays and won the game for them. If Barrett doesn’t get hurt, they very easily could have lost the game. (Obviously pure speculation on my part, but the Buckeyes played much better after Barrett left the game.)

 

[PSUSignore]

Last year, the rationale for keeping Penn State out was our "bad loss" against Michigan.

The rationale for keeping PSU out was that they had more losses than either OSU or UW. OSU was clearly better in terms of total resume than either PSU or UW. The CFP decided that the difference in total losses was greater than the differences in strength of schedule, so they put UW in over PSU. PSU was never getting in over OSU last season.

This year OSU's total resume isn't nearly as good, but they benefit because the overall records of the contenders are worse this season. 2 losses isn't as much of a disqualifier as last year. Also the CFP has shown historically they consider who you beat over who you lost to.

 

[Diego Badman]

Unfortunately, I think the winner of the B10 Champ game goes to the playoff. I am drinking the talk radio kool-aid. Don't like it, but I think OSU goes if they win.

I might agree with you if Georgia defeats Auburn. I don't think that two SEC teams will be put in since an Auburn defeat hurts Alabama who has some strength of schedule question-marks. If Miami beats Clemson, Miami goes in and Clemson drops out. If Oklahoma loses to TCU, then you might see 2 SEC teams.

 

[lein]

If Ohio State, Auburn, Oklahoma, Clemson win, then I see

Alabama, Auburn, Ok, Clemson going, no Big Ten game.

To have tOSU replace Alabama, one has to explain how they are better than a one loss Alabama given their two blowout losses. To have two 2-loss teams would be rediculous and it would imply tOSU is Auburn's equal (and they clearly are not).

 

[BUFFALO LION]

If Ohio St were to beat Wisconsin, the B1G being left out will certainly be the product of Delaney. Last year he tacitly approved of a 1 loss division runner up being in over a conference champ. His choice of supporting the limp-wristed Buckeyes who went out, quit, and were humiliated 31-0 over an exciting and peaking Penn St hurt the B1G big time.

Now he has no leg to stand on with a fluke 1 point home win on a blocked kick 2 loss Ohio St with legit eye test 1 loss Alabama sitting at home locking in their ticket. Also, the Buckeye's quitting in the playoff last year combined with their quitting against unranked Iowa (31 point loss to an unranked team?) again this year would make them a choice that carries way too much risk of completely exposing the committee as frauds due Ohio St's recent propensity to simply quit. And the result of Delaney's bias last year will cost the B1G millions of dollars this year. I think it's hilarious.

Delany had nothing to do with it. If the Schiano incident at Tennessee didn't teach you anything, you're blind.

There was absolutely no way the Playoff Committee was going to let us in if there was any way at all to keep us out. They would have had to answer pedo questions for weeks.

If any other Power 5 team would have won their Conference Championship, the head to head, and beaten the team that beat the 5th Conference Champ (Oklahoma) with no 13th data point and the same number of losses, they would have been in.

You think the Comittee is going to exclude Auburn in favor of Alabama if they win the SEC? Ain't no way.

 

[PSUSignore]

You think the Comittee is going to exclude Auburn in favor of Alabama if they win the SEC? Ain't no way.

That's not a very good example because Alabama's resume is not as good as OSU's from last year. That's a huge factor posters here continually overlook. OSU played a tough schedule last year and got through it with one close loss vs. a top ranked team in a tough environment. That loss happened to rule them out from winning the B1G East, but the rest of their resume was quite good. Bama's schedule this year just isn't the same.

 

[Woodpecker]

This year OSU's total resume isn't nearly as good, but they benefit because the overall records of the contenders are worse this season. 2 losses isn't as much of a disqualifier as last year. Also the CFP has shown historically they consider who you beat over who you lost to.

So, if OSU beats Wisconsin ...

2 losses vs. 1 loss
LAST YEAR's CHOICE: Ohio State (vs. PSU)
THIS YEAR's EQUIVALENT: Wisconsin (vs. tOSU)
Head-to-head (committee went with loser)
LAST YEAR's CHOICE: Ohio State (vs. PSU)
THIS YEAR's EQUIVALENT: Wisconsin (vs. tOSU)
Common opponent loss
LAST YEAR's CHOICE: Ohio State (Michigan)
THIS YEAR's EQUIVALENT: Wisconsin (Iowa)
Additional loss for team not chosen
LAST YEAR's CHOICE: Ohio State (PSU lost to Pitt)
THIS YEAR's EQUIVALENT: Wisconsin (tOSU lost to OU)

 

[itsofficial101]

While he was dead wrong last year I think the winner of the Big Ten championship game gets in. Wisconsin is obvious if they win and despite 2 losses Ohio State will have more big wins than either Alabama or Georgia assuming Auburn wins. If Georgia wins, a 3 loss Auburn team is obviously out. If the committee held 2 losses against you this year, Auburn wouldn't be 2nd ranked going into this weeks games. Delaney has some national power and the Ohio State AD is on the committee. I think it takes an Oklahoma loss to get Alabama to move up from 5. Just my guess...........Go WISCONSIN

I think the only thing perhaps more entertaining than Delaney's bias last year costing the Buckeyes this year is if Ohio St squeaks in and gets blanked by Clemson for the 2nd consecutive year. Now that would truly be hilarious and probably do permanent damage to the Buckeyes and B1G in future selections.

 

[CDLionFL]

It’s hilarious to me that you people continue to beat this drum. The issue last year was with WASHINGTON and not the Suckeyes. You couldn’t have a viable CFP without those scrubs last year cuz they were one of the four best teams. If Bama’s resume was any good this year, they’d be in the same position and I believe they should be there this year too despite not being in the title game.

This year, the Suckeyes aren’t one of the best 4 teams even if they win Saturday. I think Miami gets in over them if they win the ACC and I think Bama gets in over them too (by a very slim margin). What could cause trouble is if TCU wins. Then we might be subjected to another Suckeyes playoff appearance.

 

[NewEra 2014]

The rationale for keeping PSU out was that they had more losses than either OSU or UW. /QUOTE]

Perfect. Then OSU will be eliminated with that criterion as well, as long as there are more than 4 undefeated or one-loss teams at the end of Saturday.

There is no way that OSU should be in the playoff this year. If they are, the sport won't recover unless they go to an 8-team playoff.

 

[Big Blue12]

If Ohio St were to beat Wisconsin, the B1G being left out will certainly be the product of Delaney. Last year he tacitly approved of a 1 loss division runner up being in over a conference champ. His choice of supporting the limp-wristed Buckeyes who went out, quit, and were humiliated 31-0 over an exciting and peaking Penn St hurt the B1G big time.

Now he has no leg to stand on with a fluke 1 point home win on a blocked kick 2 loss Ohio St with legit eye test 1 loss Alabama sitting at home locking in their ticket. Also, the Buckeye's quitting in the playoff last year combined with their quitting against unranked Iowa (31 point loss to an unranked team?) again this year would make them a choice that carries way too much risk of completely exposing the committee as frauds due Ohio St's recent propensity to simply quit. And the result of Delaney's bias last year will cost the B1G millions of dollars this year. I think it's hilarious.

What goes around almost always comes around.

 

[BUFFALO LION]

It’s hilarious to me that you people continue to beat this drum. The issue last year was with WASHINGTON and not the Suckeyes. You couldn’t have a viable CFP without those scrubs last year cuz they were one of the four best teams. If Bama’s resume was any good this year, they’d be in the same position and I believe they should be there this year too despite not being in the title game.

This year, the Suckeyes aren’t one of the best 4 teams even if they win Saturday. I think Miami gets in over them if they win the ACC and I think Bama gets in over them too (by a very slim margin). What could cause trouble is if TCU wins. Then we might be subjected to another Suckeyes playoff appearance.

TCU is a lock if they win. They would absolutely, positively trump and be seeded ahead of Ohio State.

The SEC Champ, ACC Champ, Big 12 Champ, and Wisconsin (if they win) are locks. If Wisconsin loses, the fourth spot will go to either Ohio State or USC (if they beat Stanford).

Alabama is toast.

 

[78SweetRevenge]

The problem with the comparison is Alabama 2017 doesn't have the quality wins that Ohio State 2016 does. Just root for Wisconsin

 

[DandyDonII]

I can't see the SEC getting 2 teams in, that means that 2 of the 5 Power 5 Conferences are left out of the cold for a team that only beat one good team all season and didn't even get to its conference title game....Not to mention Alabama's offense doesn't pass the "eye test."
I think politics will play a part in this just like last year. I don't think anyone thought UW was better than us last year, but the committee couldn't allow the playoffs to exclude all teams west of Ohio...

 

[sdwcpa]

That's not a very good example because Alabama's resume is not as good as OSU's from last year. That's a huge factor posters here continually overlook. OSU played a tough schedule last year and got through it with one close loss vs. a top ranked team in a tough environment. That loss happened to rule them out from winning the B1G East, but the rest of their resume was quite good. Bama's schedule this year just isn't the same.

THIS!!!

PSU's argument was not against OSU. It was against UW. The committee itself came out and said so. As hard as it is for PSU fans to accept OSU based on its resume beating 3 top 10 teams 2 of them on the road at night and only having 1 loss in a close ( notice I did not say fluke) road game in one of the most hostile venues in CFB earned their spot in the playoffs. It had nothing to do with Delaney. Delaney was probably lobbying for PSU AND OSU to get into the play offs. UW was the team that based on their resume is the one that had no business in the play offs. It was more of a geographical political decision by the committee that put them in the play offs. They did not want a situation where no team west of either Columbus or Tuscalusa was in the play offs.

 

[PSUSignore]

Perfect. Then OSU will be eliminated with that criterion as well, as long as there are more than 4 undefeated or one-loss teams at the end of Saturday.

There is no way that OSU should be in the playoff this year. If they are, the sport won't recover unless they go to an 8-team playoff.

It's not that easy. This year the competition at the top is weaker than last year, and there aren't as many 0-1 loss teams. The goalposts move every year because the contenders have different resumes and records every year. Last year OSU was fortunate to get through a very tough schedule nearly unscathed while their peers in terms of records didn't have comparable schedule strength. This year they are fortunate again because the way it played out has allowed 2 loss teams to remain in the mix.

 

[NewEra 2014]

The goalposts move every year.

That is all you need to say. If the goalposts move to allow OSU to make the playoff again, the 4-team playoff is toast.

 

[itsofficial101]

That is all you need to say. If the goalposts move to allow OSU to make the playoff again, the 4-team playoff is toast.

Particularly if the goalposts move to the exact opposite argument as was used to justify their 31-0 embarassment last year. The official criteria might as well list a preference for teams whose ADs are on the selection committee.

 

[78SweetRevenge]

That is all you need to say. If the goalposts move to allow OSU to make the playoff again, the 4-team playoff is toast.

Then I want them to make it. This set up is a joke. Better than past set-ups but still severely lacking.

The committee indicated that 5-8 were very close--that makes me think OSU gets in with a win over Wisconsin especially if Clemson, OU & Auburn win.

I'm still rooting for Wisconsin tomorrow but if OSU gets in and that destroys this set up then I can live with it.

 

[Bob78]

OT somewhat:

I get the feeling that if Wisconsin wins Saturday night and gets into the 4, as a #4 seed, they will get waxed the same way Mich. State did a few years ago when they got in and Bama manhandled them. Kind of the same way Clemson manhandled Ohio State last year.

They are a tough team, although a very basic team, and I think their D's weaker spots would be exposed vs. a Clemson or Auburn, e.g. They will try to control the ball and the clock, but I don't see them going anywhere.

That said, I respect what they have done to this point, and they stay true to what they are good at season after season. If they beat Ohio State, they will have accomplished a terrific season at 13-0 and the B1G title... no small feat. But I think that is where it stops.

 

[RU31trap]

While anything is possible I do not believe that the SEC commissioner would sit idle and allow a two loss Ohio State team in the playoff over a 1 loss Alabama team. The talking heads will harp on strength of schedule, margins of victory and record. Trust me no one is rooting harder for OSU than Alabama.

 

[78SweetRevenge]

While anything is possible I do not believe that the SEC commissioner would sit idle and allow a two loss Ohio State team in the playoff over a 1 loss Alabama team. Trust me no one is rooting harder for OSU than Alabama.

9 times out of 10 it wouldn't even be a question. Bama would be in. That schedule though...especially if Auburn falls to Georgia. It's going to be interesting. Again, Go Wisconsin!