Penn State's OL is terrible? He was calling the Wisconsin-Nebraska game and said Wisky's OL was a well oiled machine and had to throw in "unlike Penn State's, whose OL is terrible."
Anyone else hear Matt Millen say
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which of course is quite true. Sound analysis,no?
I did hear him say something about the PSU OL but at least what I remember it was something like they are not improving. I did not hear him say they were terrible. He was contrasting either Nebraksa or Wisky's OL with OLs from other teams he had watched and that's when he mentioned PSU's.
He did such a great job with his management of the Detroit Lions that I put his analysis of personnel right up there with Corso. However, I am not seeing any Limegrover bump with this group like expected. In fact, I see nothing.
No, and that's on him.
We beefed up our guys yet still run a zone scheme and our guys aren’t getting to the blocks in time. At least that’s what I see...?
It could be the undoing of this team against stronger opponents.
It’s true. Limgrover has to figure it out and really school these guys these next two weeks. They have regressed.
PSU really misses Gaia at Center! He was a fifth year senior and another coach on the field.
PSU really misses Gaia at Center! He was a fifth year senior and another coach on the field.
I've concluded that Millen doesn't even know what he's saying half the time. And yes, that's on him. 
IMHO, it is the right side of the line where we are on our third team LT due to injuries. Opposing DL's are also blasting their DE's into the mesh point in a bull rush without any other responsibilities. Don't forget McS hit 15 passes in a row...these two issues are related.
I think it’s scheme and decision-making. Strength and athleticism is there... game after game there are untouched defenders waiting in the backfield for SB... blown assignments in my opinion. Agree with Ian, we really miss Gaia and his line calls.
I don't understand why we don't have a play that's simply a run so that SB can get up a head of steam rather than getting hit 4 yards behind the line of scrimmage. I saw plays like this from the shotgun all day and night Saturday. The OL could drive block and give Saquon room to operate.
I'm not a football guru and don't understand a lot of things, but what we're doing isn't working and is painful to watch. I know that we're undefeated, but lack of a running game may catch up with us in the tougher games..
I'm not a football guru and don't understand a lot of things, but what we're doing isn't working and is painful to watch. I know that we're undefeated, but lack of a running game may catch up with us in the tougher games..
Having a new center calling the line plays is a big transition. Some growing pains there.
So when running a RPO what is the normal tendency for an Oline??? It appears to be in a pass blocking stance. So if this is normal can you imaging being an oline guy and asked to pass block all game?? How demoralizing for a player... How many times have we heard regardless of level 'give the oline an opportunity to fire off the ball and assert themselves'?? So at what point in time are we going to let them do that? The coaching staff is doing these guys a dis service in their development by not doing this. The biggest gripe in the NFL is that olineman are not prepared.
If the QB is making the call on what to do at the last second how is the oline gonna be able to know what to do other than to try an direct the player they are engaged with one way or another dependent upon general direction of the play rather than just pancake the sucker.
Agree -- RPO be dammed just run some solid run plays from the formation if nothing else to keep the defense honest and let the oline get some of their rage on. whats the worse that happens a 1-2 yard loss as opposed to a 4 yard loss?
If the QB is making the call on what to do at the last second how is the oline gonna be able to know what to do other than to try an direct the player they are engaged with one way or another dependent upon general direction of the play rather than just pancake the sucker.
Agree -- RPO be dammed just run some solid run plays from the formation if nothing else to keep the defense honest and let the oline get some of their rage on. whats the worse that happens a 1-2 yard loss as opposed to a 4 yard loss?
We had a little over 300 yards against OSU last year with about a 50/50 split between running and passing and we won. So this year we may get more passing yards and less running, but can still win obviously.
hard to run inside if your oline is standing up to pass block
You're seeing the same thing a lot of other people are seeing.
In most cases, it's because defenses are sending and/or putting right at the line, more defenders than there are people to block them.
We have the best college RB in years and that's the way teams have to play our offense us. We could have the Washington Redskins offensive line from the mid-80's and they wouldn't do much better.
Hopefully we can find a way to game-plan against defenses playing us that way.
We don't have a "lack of a running game." If we had a "lack of a running game," teams would be selling out to stop it.
Well, Miller is correct... maybe not 2014 or 2015 bad, but it is very obviously the biggest (only) weakness on this team. We’ve beat a total of 6 unranked teams, and mostly have looked good doing it, but we have three games in a row, starting in two weeks, where we’ll see whether our strengths in other position groups will make up for the poor O line.
during this 6 game run, the OL and run game have not looked good. we also have a very poor conversion on 3rd and short. for a dominant OFF team, this is not acceptable. we punt alot for a team that scores as much as we do.
many announcers are now commenting on this. Mack Brown elaborated on this today on the college show. this problem along with our poor FG kicking are not secrets.
This is so untrue. look at a tape. The members of our O line are getting beat over and over 1 on 1.
Oline has been disappointing but NW also decided that they were not going to be beat by Barkley. Watch the replay of offensive plays. 3 NW defenders went everywhere SB went, even when he was a decoy. There was a reason that our other guys were wide open on pass routes all game.
I don't care if it is Jim Brown or Barry Sanders, if the opposing D wants to take 1 guy out of a game, they can do it. Does Oline need to improve, absolutely. But as far as the running game goes, NW just wasn't going to let SB beat them.
Real issue to me is at Right Tackle, revolving door of Wright (still seems injured), Fries, and Nelson has been subpar. 1 of those 3 needs to step up.
I don't care if it is Jim Brown or Barry Sanders, if the opposing D wants to take 1 guy out of a game, they can do it. Does Oline need to improve, absolutely. But as far as the running game goes, NW just wasn't going to let SB beat them.
Real issue to me is at Right Tackle, revolving door of Wright (still seems injured), Fries, and Nelson has been subpar. 1 of those 3 needs to step up.
There have been a lot of good RBs that opponents sold out t stop but I don't remember so many negative plays. In fact most opponents sell out on 3rd and 1 or at the goal line. I understand that it's tough sledding but I think there's a bit more to the problem.
This late in the season it might be a moot point. The staff has done everything they can and tried everything they can. The guys will need to find a way to overcome.
This might have gone unnoticed, but in the first quarter against Maryland, Ohio State lost Brandon Bowen for the season. He's their starting right guard. Did not affect them at all, somehow, but it may have a slight affect later in the season.
I just went back and looked again, and I would say about 80% of this is holding your damn block, and the other 20% is knowing WHO to block. This is not a matter of being blown up and manhandled, and that is actually the good news. Although Tyler Lancaster was nearly a block of concrete yesterday, he was unblockable. Kid doesn't get the press like Gary or Hurst or Ohio State's war daddies, but he's playing on Sunday next year in the NFL.
The stars aligned last year for PSU to win with 300 yards of offense. If we are held to 300 yards this year we will more than likely lose by 2+ TD's.
The OL is not improving so far. Through 6 games. 1/2 of the season. It should not take 1/2 of the season to see some improvement. I'm starting to believe that playing Simpson at Center and moving McGovern to Guard would improve things.........
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So you have discounted the defense. I am surprised. I thought you were one of the posters here with an occasional clue. Meh.... what do I know!
