.....over PSU via b1g Turd Cheating Officials engineering and the massive role that played in tO$U even getting into the farce "BCS Championship Playoffs" which are not a true "playoff" of any kind (it's an "Invitational Tournament" a "beauty contest"). They keep talking about who tO$U could lose to in the b1g Turd Conference games, but they fail to mention that tO$U was outplayed on the field last year and only bailed out by the corrupt conference and their cheating officials on the field and in the replay both! Especially comical was the interview with the tO$U players and b1g Turd Network Analysts where a tO$U player responded to the question "will you be disappointed if you lose a game or games and don't make it to another championship game?" - the tO$U player said something to the effect that Urban Meyers teaches them to take the same approach as they did last year and if they go out and play their very best game for 4 quarters and they give it everything they have and they lose the game, they'll take their hat off to the other team.... Laughable BS given Urban Fraud Meyers politicking at the end of last year for a place in the Playoffs including the claim that the PSU game PROVED THEY DESERVED A PLACE IN THE PLAYOFFS over Baylor and TCU because his team pulled could have easily given up in the PSU game, but didn't do that and won that game on the field via their play late in the game when they could have given up in a difficult environment?????? Yea "coach", getting bailed out by a corrupt league and the leagues corrupt cheating officials really equates to "deserving" that win??? LMFAO at how lame and bushleague the b1g Turd Conference and their mouthpieces are.
Anyone notice all the talk about tO$U at b1g Turd Media Days, but not a word about undeserved win...
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As much as I agree with your feelings about the Big Ten and OSU. Did you really expect the media to ask them a question about a game that the media thinks that they won fairly?
OSU goes on and wins the MNC and you think the media is going to ask them about a game in the middle of last season or if it was right for their coach to politic to get into the 4 team play-off. There is no way that any media person was going to ask them any of those questions about the 2014 season during the 2015 season Media days.
Again I don't disagree with your sentiments but it was never going to happen.
OSU goes on and wins the MNC and you think the media is going to ask them about a game in the middle of last season or if it was right for their coach to politic to get into the 4 team play-off. There is no way that any media person was going to ask them any of those questions about the 2014 season during the 2015 season Media days.
Again I don't disagree with your sentiments but it was never going to happen.
The b1g turd conference's Director of Officiating, Bill Carollo, is a liar just as his Crew Chief Referee John O'Neil is a typical b1g turd conference liar as O'Neil said almost the identical thing after the game and it is ANTITHETICAL to the actual words of the NCAA Rulebook which is what all conferences use -- each conference does not use their own "customized" rulebook. Not only is Carollo a liar, but he even admits how full of crap he is in his statement by stating that the the Replay Officials ARE PERMITTED to use the in-house feed of the broadcaster, ESPN/ABC, in this instance which is what is broadcast on the Massive Video-tron Boards at each end of the stadium as well as on TVs hung in the corridors, near the concession stands, in the luxury boxes, in the press box offices, etc... He then goes on to say that "everyone in the stadium knew it was not an interception" this would include the broadcaster's in the Press Box as well as the casual fans looking at the Jumbo-trons (the same Jumbo-trons that the Replay Officials could see by looking out their Press Box window and see them just as well as any fan -- the notion that they have to "stick their head out in the rain" to see those screens and there really not much detail on them is beyond laughable pablum as it was not raining that night and the Official does not need to do anything but look out the window to see the boards and there was no ambiguity as to what the TV Broadcast (again Carollo admits that feed is usable under NCAA Rules if the available to Replay Officials - e.g., "they can see it" - all of which was true here.). Carollo even says "everyone in the stadium knew it was not an interception" from looking at those same screens given that the Replay Officials were also "in the stadium" one would assume this includes them! This article linked below, proves unquestionablly that John O'Neil is lying in his interpretation of the NCAA Rule, because his claim that the rule says they can only use the conference provided replay equipment is bull$hit and WRONG and NOT WHAT THE NCAA RULE STATES. And Carollo is lying in repeating O'Neil's bull$hit and claiming they "changed" the rule in the off-season -- complete and utter bull$hit that putting a TV Broadcast feed via a monitor in the Replay Booth constitutes a "rule change" (it doesn't) nor does it imply that O'Neil was not lying last year and Carollo lying about last year as he spoke, that they were prohibited from looking at the TV Broadcast playing on the Jumbo-trons right in front of their face which CLEARLY AND UNQUESTIONABLY showed that it was not an interception as even Carollo admits with his "everybody in the stadium..." statement! See link below:
Big Ten Referees Respond to Blown Calls in Ohio State Game
Beyond that, he is incorrect about the clock -- the NCAA Rulebook says that egregious and obvious CLOCK ERRORS can be reviewed and corrected via Replay!! In fact, this rule was invoked in a Big 12 Championship Game several years ago where the clock was allowed to expire on a ball thrown out-of-bounds where the clock did not stop directly upon the Officials signal (waiving hands across each other over Official's head) - it literally changed the game, as 1 second was added to the clock and the victorious team was permitted a FG try which they attempted and made on the games final play! So again, Carollo is clearly LYING about what the NCAA Rulebook states about reviewing CLOCK ERRORS via replay!
Lastly, he doesn't even mention the completely horse$hit and fabricated "Leaping Personal Foul" penalty called on Mike Hull (which replay clearly shows he did no such thing) on tO$U's extra point after scoring a TD in 1st OT to tie game and due to way OT Rules work, tO$U goes on offense first in 2nd OT and this penalty set them up at the 10 Yard Line in the 2nd OT rather than the 25!!! This league and its administrator's laughable horse$hit, intentionally false and BS statements are disgraceful and fairly typical of the corrupt, zero-integrity, fungible-rules, unfair-playing field approach this gauche bushleague uses.
By what logic was Ohio State "outplayed" on-the-field against PSU last year?
OSU outgained us 293-240, despite running 5 less plays overall, and out-rushed us 219-16. The turnover margin was equal (2-2).
It was a fairly even game that OSU pulled out in overtime. Our defense did play VERY VERY well overall, but unfortunately less so in overtime --- OSU was able to go for 6.2 yards per play in overtime (all those plays being runs). Leaping penalty or not, allowing 6.2 yards per rush is not a formula for success. For reference, OSU only went for 3.6 yards per rush in regulation.
Bottom line, I don't think OSU was necessarily "outplayed."
You really are an amazing little twit -- your entire screed talks about how tO$U outplayed PSU in OT and how 15 yard penalties that only require you to go 10 yards versus 25 yards in the second OT are meaningless??? How about this dip$hit, the game should have never even gone into OT! PSU outgained tO$U in the second half 156 Offensive Yards to tO$U's 80 yards, PSU out 1st Downed tO$U 13-5 in the 2nd Half of Regulation and finally PSU outscored tO$U 17-0 in the 2nd Half Bozo. BTW genius, in regulation PSU had more 1st Downs overall 18-17. Beyond that, tO$U outgained PSU in the 1st Half 160 yards to 78 yards; HOWEVER, PSU's 1st Drive was bogusly stopped after 4 plays and 20 yards by a BS "Interception Call" that was clearly an Incomplete Pass on a 1st Down Play for PSU (in other words, not only was one of PSU's possessions unfairly taken away when they had moved the ball from their own 16 to the 36 on a bogus call on 1ST DOWN OF THE SERIES, but tO$U was set up with a short field at the PSU 39 Yard Line.). tO$U's longest drive of the 1st Half was 59 yards and they got a bogus FG off that drive as the Officials failed to call a Delay of Game Penalty on the 4th Down FG attempt despite tO$U snapping the ball more than 3 full seconds AFTER THE PLAY CLOCK WAS READING: 00. tO$U outscored PSU 17-0 in the 1st Half with 10 points being heavily aided by the officials given that it is highly doubtful that tO$U scores on their first possession if a simple incomplete pass is called correctly by the homer ten b1g turd cheating conference (at the very least, tO$U starts their first possession deep in their own territory if the SIMPLE INCOMPLETE CALL is made correctly given that PSU had already swung field position from starting the games opening possession at their own 16 and moving it out to the their own 36 via two first downs and would have been facing a second down from their own 36 had the SIMPLE INCOMPLETION been called corretly.).
Again, given that tO$U's longest drive of the 1st Half, and the entire game for that matter, was 59 yards, it is quite unlikely that they score a TD on their first possession of the game but for the cheating b1g turd officials UNDESERVEDLY setting tO$U up at PSU's 39 yard line via a horrendously wrong and BS call which every person says could have been turned over via NCAA Rulebook and the internal TV Feed PLAYING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE CHEATING b1g TURD OFFICALS EYES except for the cheating b1g turd Referee and Director of Officials who keep saying that NCAA Rules prevented the play from being turned over which is a LIE and COMPLETELY UNTRUE as the NCAA Rulebook clearly says by replay provided equipment OR by ANY GAME VIDEO FOOTAGE AVAILABLE to the officials.
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Lots of words --- but this fact remains: Ohio State had the ball 3* times when the game was either tied or they were trailing. They scored a touchdown every single one of those drives.
E.g., when it mattered most, their offense was besting our defense. For all we know, they score a TD regardless of where their initial drive started from.
It is what it is. It was a fairly even game where they got some officiating breaks, but it was also a fairly even game where they were better at the most critical times. Ohio State out-gained us by 53 yards overall, and gained 6.2 yards per rush in overtime. In aggregate for the 3 drives I've referred to, OSU was gaining 6.2 yards per rush (it was 3.3 yards per rush the rest of the game). Unfortunately, allowing 6.2 yards per rush at such critical times is not a recipe for success (on our part).
*- Not counting the "drive" where OSU took a knee at the end of regulation.
No dip$hit, the statistics DO NOT say that tO$U would have scored a TD on their very first possession of the game regardless of where they got the ball -- you are so full of $hit, it is laughable that you self-proclaim yourself to be an expert statistician. tO$U had 13 drives for the entire game - in regulation, they had 17 First Downs the entire game. They gained 240 yards on 71 plays in regulation (not including any possession that began with less then a minute on the clock) OR 18.5 yards on 5.5 plays on average per drive! tO$U's longest drive of the ENTIRE DAY was their 3rd Possession of the 1st Half which was 59 Yards (from their own 9 yard line to the PSU 32 Yard where tO$U was facing a 4th-&-25 situation and lined up for a FG Attempt. tO$U violated the play clock on the ensuing snap by MORE THAN 3 FULL SECONDS - no flag, because of course it so hard to call an obvious play clock violation like that LMFAO! End result, tO$U makes an illegitimate 49 Yard FG instead of facing a decision whether they want to attempt a 54 Yard FG and potentially give up field position on a low probability attempt.).
On 13 drives all day, tO$U averaged 18.5 yards per drive (5.5 plays per drive, just under 1.5 1st downs per drive) and scored points on 3 OF THE 13 TOTAL DRIVES ALL DAY -- 2 OF THEM CLEARLY AIDED BY ABSURDLY RIDICULOUS OFFICIATING CALLS, but you think the "statistics" and "probabilities" say that tO$U would have scored on their 1st Possession of the game regardless of where they got the ball which is an absurdly ridiculous interpretation of the numbers above. Again Bozo, the ONLY REASON tO$U ONLY HAD TO GO 39 YARDS IN THEIR FIRST POSSESSION (and PSU was ROBBED of their first possession when they were successfully moving the ball; had moved the ball from their own 16 out to the 36 via two first downs and would have only been facing 2nd Down had the cheating big turd officials even remotely called the 5th play of PSU's first possession even remotely correctly on the field OR if their Replay Officials had FOLLOWED THE ACTUAL NCAA RULES AS WRITTEN!!!). In any event, if the 5th play of PSU's first drive had been called REMOTELY CORRECTLY BY NCAA RULES AS WRITTEN BY EITHER THE FIELD b1g TURD OFFICIALS OR THE REPLAY b1g TURD OFFICIALS, probabilities absolutely suggest tO$U starts their first drive deep in their own territory and the probability that tO$U scores any points whatsoever on that possession were beyond miniscule given that they attempted 13 drives all day and the average drive was only 18.5 yards and 5.5 plays AND THEIR LONGEST DRIVE ALL DAY was 59 yards on 14 plays where they faced a 4th-&-25 at the end of the drive and were gifted a FG by the cheating b1g turd officials not calling an obvious Delay of Game Play Clock Violation! Even with the b1g turds obvious cheating tO$U only scored on 3 of 13 drives with 2 of the 3 being MASSIVELY AIDED BY CHEATING b1g TURD OFFICIATING AS DETAILED ABOVE. Had the game been called squarely - PSU would not have been down by more than 7 points given that the cheating b1g turd officiating call not only set tO$U up with an UNDESERVED short field, but ROBBED PSU OF A POSSESSION that had moved the ball from their own 16 out to their own 36 on two first downs and PSU would have only been facing 2nd Down after the First Down incompletion except for the cheating b1g Turd Officials.
Given that PSU massively outplayed tO$U in the 2nd half in terms of yards +76 yards, First Downs +8 (13 PSU 1st Downs to 5 for tO$U) and points as PSU outscored tO$U LEGITIMATELY WITHOUT CHEATING AID FROM THE OFFICIALS 17-0. Had the game been called squarely, any even remotely objective observer understands that the probabilities suggest that PSU wins the game in regulation by at least 10 points and the "overtime" where you want to focus all your attention should never have been necessary as PSU absolutely outplayed tO$U but for the cheating b1g turd officials MASSIVELY aiding 2 of tO$U's 3 scoring drives (without that aid, tO$U would have scored on 1 of 13 drives which is an abysmal scoring percentage) and any knowledgeable football fan who knows how important field position is in this type of game and how absurdly massive the b1g turds cheating officials impact was realizes that PSU clearly got the better of the LEGITIMATE PLAY AND SCORING in this game and would have very likely won this game in regulation but for the cheating turd conference officials.
So, you somehow expect the conference to point out that the current standard bearer, who just won the National Championship, which has gone a long way to reviving the image of the conference nationally and how it is discussed, should have lost a game that would have kept it out of the playoff discussion in favor of a Big12 team. I'll have some of what you're drinking.
Take off the blue and white glasses.
Take off the blue and white glasses.
Take off the blue & white glasses? In other words, cheating is okay if you end up with the desired agenda-based outcome (in this case the b1g turd conference's agenda which was to screw PSU in favor of tO$U because "the ends justified the means [cheating]" and the ends were gained at the DIRECT EXPENSE of PSU's student-athlete's and program???).
No, I think it's you who needs to take off the glasses tainted with plain ordinary b1g Turd $hit on both lenses as your claiming that throwing the integrity of the game out the window is A-OK as long as the b1g Turd gets the marketing and media outcome desired by chum-bucket Delany as if this were WWE Championship Wrestling or something. PSU's equity and integrity be damned, PSU has no rights to the expectation of a fair and level playing field, integrity or anything else...the b1g Turd is all important.... No dip$hit, this is not the way a MEMBER-OWNED Sports Conference is supposed to work. BTW, you had us all fooled with that monicker, "blueband".....NOT!!!
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BTW, no thank you on what you are drinking (and recommending for PSU fans) - the tain't sweat & piss of chum-bucket Delany & his cast of dirtbag friends. I'm glad you like it so much, but that's only because you have zero-pride, zero-integrit and zero-principles - in other words, a typical b1g Turd hugger...in the immortal words, "well, aren't you special".
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I don't have anyone on ignore, but you're coming close to being the first.
Like I care what a dope, "posing" tool such as yourself does. Is that suppose to be a threat and supposed to scare me band-boy? I have a better idea, rather than waste your time hitting the ignore button, why don't you use that time productively and go play in traffic.
Tom, why do you allow this dullard to pollute the board? The guy cannot engage in civil debate and adds zero to the community. Profanity, creative adjectives and comedic relief aside....what gives?
Questioning Tim Curley and calling Bushwood and Michael Felli a retard gets you banned. Yet continually posting crap like they do is just fine.
Questioning Tim Curley and calling Bushwood and Michael Felli a retard gets you banned. Yet continually posting crap like they do is just fine.
Nowhere did I say cheating is OK. No where did I say the ends justifies the means. Do you have reading comprehension issues?
But I deal in the reality of the situation. There was no way in hell that the conference, on media day which is a big public relations fest, was going to undermine their golden child coming off a National Championship that has people talking about the conference in a manner that doesn't involve the words "has been."
Forget what's fair... that's not the way the world works. It's not always fair. We can and should strive for it, but it's just not. That doesn't mean you say "screw it, I'll just do what I want." But until such time as the world is perfect, it will not always be fair.
So, to get upset that on media day, the conference didn't say "Ohio State should never have played for the National Championship because our refs blew some calls in the PSU game that probably would have changed the outcome of the game," is lunacy. Anyone expecting that has gone off their rocker. Fair or not, it was never going to happen.
Let me guess, to start off Media Day at Penn State in 1983, you expected Joe to get up there and say that McCloskey was out of bounds on the final drive of the Nebraska game, so really, that National Championship game we just won last year was bogus. After all, that would have been fair. We don't want to rob the Nebraska players and program.
So full of crap as per usual - go look at the 1982 PSU - Nebraska game again and you will see that Nebraska scored points off an OBVIOUS forward pass that was incomplete by PSU that had PSU players walking back to the huddle and away from the play.....and a Nebraska player picks up the ball and was awarded a fumble! Given that PSU was leading the game at the time and driving for more points in Nebraska territory (and Nebraska scored on the ensuing series after the CLEARLY illegitimate call) the sequence resulted in a 10-14 point swing in the game! Your selective comparison of the McCloskey call (on a play he was attempting to drag his back foot which it is not perfectly clear if he did or not) to BLATANT CHEATING and obviously wrong calls as even admitted by the b1g turd front-office with lame rationalizations and excuses that are in fact LIES relative to how the NCAA Rules are IN FACT written is rather unsurprising for an @sshat such as yourself and your clearly "posing" blueband monicker.
Not only a complete tool but a moron as well given that your "take of your blue and white glasses" absolutely does CLAIM and suggest that the b1g turd conference got everything right and you are just fine with it you big turd hugging moron (as does your absurd comparison to the 1982 PSU - Nebraska game which no self-respecting PSU fan would claim was called in PSU's favor especially given the absurd call in Nebraska's favor which got them back into a game they were being dominated in and likely swung the game by two TDs)..
ARTICLE 3. a. All equipment used reviewing a play during the replay process
and the personnel using that equipment shall be located in a separate, secure
location in the press box. This room shall not be available or accessible to any
person not directly involved in instant replay.
Since when is the video replay boards in the press box? The national feed was not available in the press box.
http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/FR15.pdf
As usual, you miss the point, which was: Joe was no more going to bring up a controversial call during media day coming off a National Championship, than the B1G was going to do the same.
Your name calling would be cute, if it were not an affront to your Penn State education. I'm being generous and assuming you received one.
As for posing, I spent my undergraduate years representing Penn State on the field and in the stands as a member of the Blue Band. I held positions of leadership within the band. I am far from being a poser.
BT media day didn't play the woe is PSU card. Such a victim BODE. i did't even think about it and you were expecting some formal comment on it. 
Ummm, here is SECTION 6. Reviewing an On-field Ruling....Procedures
Sub-section C clearly says that any replay of the televised production of the game "available to the replay official" including "from other video" (a clear reference to a video feed outside ofhe specific replay equipment). One would assume this includes game video of the "televised production" playing right outside their clear glass window on a 10,000 sq ft screen especially when their own b1g turd supplied equipment "conveniently" isn't working properly and the b1g turd failed to provide them a redundant monitor of the television broadcast as specified in the NCAA Rulebook "procedure".
correct and then it goes on to further say that any resources used must be located in the video booth. Just because one articles in the rules doesn't prohibit it doesn't mean later articles can. It in the rule book that they can not use anything outside the replay booth. article 3 further defines article 1. You can't ignore the other rules in the rule book.Ummm, here is SECTION 6. Reviewing an On-field Ruling....Procedures
Sub-section C clearly says that any replay of the televised production of the game "available to the replay official" including "from other video" (a clear reference to a video feed outside ofhe specific replay equipment). One would assume this includes game video of the "televised production" playing right outside their clear glass window on a 10,000 sq ft screen especially when their own b1g turd supplied equipment "conveniently" isn't working properly and the b1g turd failed to provide them a redundant monitor of the television broadcast as specified in the NCAA Rulebook "procedure".
While I disagree with the OP (official said the booted the calls) I don't agree with you either. tOSU was awarded a possession on a turnover which gave them more plays. At the same time, a PSU score was on a pick six, INT which gave, in essence, PSU a full possession with zero plays and zero total yards. This gave tOSU back to back offensive possessions. Result is that they had more offensive opportunities to pad stats but really were a swing of 14 points (int that shouldn't have happened and an INT for a pick six).
Net/net, two horribly blown calls had a substantial outcome on the game.
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