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I don’t recall him blitzing from the edge, positioned like LT was. Micah is very fast out of the blocks, first ten yards. IMO, he’d be a nightmare for the opposing OT and TE.

I certainly hope so.
I agree that I don’t recall seeing him blitz much. When he did he seemed to run straight to the blocker and not disengage. I thought that would have been an area that he might have excelled at right off the bat with his defensive end experience.
 
Who's 5'11" 220lbs? At the NFL combines, Sanders was 5'11" 211lbs. Just look at last year's stats for RBs. These are 4 of the top 5 leading rushers.

Darrrell Henderson 5'8" 208lbs. 214 carries, 1900 yards
Trayveon Williams 5'9" 206lbs. 252 carries, 1760 yards
Travis Etienne 5'10" 200lbs. 204 carries, 1650 yards
Eno Benjamin 5' 10" 200lbs 300 carries, 1640 yards

I just don't see it with Slade. I don't think he's a power back, not a tackle breaker. I think he is a back who excels in space. I guess we'll know by about the 8th game of the season.
 
I think he’s closer to 6’3” than 6’5”, though he’s got a long wingspan. I think you can have him up to around 250 or 255 very comfortably with his athleticism holding up carrying that weight.

More importantly, though, I think we’re only looking at him for three years. He’s a natural linebacker and it’s the position he played in high school. I think it’s more worthwhile to keep him at the position where he’s comfortable and get a few years of really high caliber linebacker play out of him and leveraging his unique length, size and athleticism versus spending that time trying to teach him a position he’s never played before. I think he’s an outside linebacker at the next level, anyway, even if he’s 250-260 pounds.
Parsons is 245 as well as a true Soph. I recall a LB at Alabama recently that went 250/255.
 
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Agree PSU is inexperienced at RB, but if there is one position in college football that has shown the least learning curve, it is RB. If they can block, we could see strength at the position quickly.
We need RBs that can excel when the line can't block, blows up or is called on in a 4th and 5 with the game on the line. Hey, maybe RR will shock the world with his OC growth and puts his mark on the 2019 version of the ............RPO. Nah!
 
I don't know what you're trying to argue here Knight. We know Slade's a player and there's good reason to expect he breaks out this year as a 2nd year player.

But, maybe I'm wrong, but just I don't think someone 5-9, 195 is a primary tailback in the B1G, not at the top tier. I think there's a really big difference between 5-9 195 and 5-11 220.

It's got to be tailback by committee and we don't know what the committee will be composed of, let alone what they can do. My money would be on Cain playing a lot because he's already shown how physical and strong he is.

I think that so many of the all time great TBs are 5-9, 5-10, 200lbs: Sweetness, Emmitt, Barry, and that is in the NFL. I think 5-10 200lb is still a perfect size.
 
I think that so many of the all time great TBs are 5-9, 5-10, 200lbs: Sweetness, Emmitt, Barry, and that is in the NFL. I think 5-10 200lb is still a perfect size.

I believe in the fire hydrant tailback, for sure. I just don't think that's Slade's game. Just like I don't think Clifford is a running quarterback. If I'm wrong I couldn't be more delighted...
 
all great points. Saquon, although we probably can't even begin to dream that lightening will strike twice, turned around the team is FR year. Although, for a true frosh, pass blocking and turnovers are typically still a challenge.

You're overstating Saquon's impact on the team as a freshman. He missed a couple games mid-season with an injury and we ended the season on a 4 game losing streak. His immense talent was obvious but he most certainly did not "turn around the team" as a freshman.
 
You're overstating Saquon's impact on the team as a freshman. He missed a couple games mid-season with an injury and we ended the season on a 4 game losing streak. His immense talent was obvious but he most certainly did not "turn around the team" as a freshman.
Perhaps my post wasn't worded very well.

That team never "turned around" but would have been a disaster without the emergence of true Fr Barkley. He had 1,076 yards rushing with just under 6 ypc on a team that had the worst OL in history. The team rushed for just over 1,700. Lynch was the second best option that year. Barkley also had 161 yards receiving. He missed 3 games, Temple in a coach's decision (he had one carry) and both the Army and Indiana games. Then he had his breakout game vs tOSU.

I would argue we would have lost to MD (we won by 1 point) and San Diego State. With those two losses, we'd have missed the Bowl game and had a loosing season.
 
I certainly hope so.
I agree that I don’t recall seeing him blitz much. When he did he seemed to run straight to the blocker and not disengage. I thought that would have been an area that he might have excelled at right off the bat with his defensive end experience.
Yeah he was being sent up the middle through a lot of traffic.
 
RB is probably the position where experience matters the least. You can usually tell immediately if the guy has it or not. It's not a position like the OL or DL where you see tremendous change in performance as they get older.
No.

QB is the position where experience matters most, and I don’t think I even need to argue that, do i?

Experience at RB is a luxury, and more important to PassPro than anything else.

But if there’s any position in all of team sports where a guy can come in fresh and perform well, it’s RB. So much of an RB’s statistical success is dependent on QB/OL/downfield blocking.
 
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Slade is a decent back. I expect he’ll be better than last year, bigger and more complete. We have been spoiled, though. I am intrigued by Brown’s top end speed, but he hasn’t had the chance to show much so far. I liked the BOB offense when PSU emptied the backfield by splitting the back wide. That would take advantage of Brown’s speed. No way could an LB or SS cover him.
Cain looked the best in the spring game. I am not sure which PSU back from the past he best resembles, but you can see whatever it is, he’s got it.
 
Too many negative vibes from you. I’ll bet 80% of Slade’s carries last year were between the tackles.

Are we really down on Slade?? Man, I think he's going to have a great year! The backfield is LOADED.



 
I believe in the fire hydrant tailback, for sure. I just don't think that's Slade's game. Just like I don't think Clifford is a running quarterback. If I'm wrong I couldn't be more delighted...
Galt in an interview said Clifford improved his time in the 4.5 range. Not sure if I believe that number but even if he runs 4.6, that’s plenty fast for this offense. I think your concerns are unfounded.
 
Dunno about others but I'm not down on Slade in the least. In fact he'd be high on my list of likely breakout players. I just think ideally two or three tailbacks contribute and that they all bring different things to the table. We know what Slade and Cain can do and they're different things.

Best success at the TB position in the B1G is fresh legs in the second half. Anyone disagree?
 
Seider has already said that RB will be by committee this season. His reasoning was that he thought Sanders broke down at points last season, leading to rather unproductive games.

Slade isn't just a scat back, please everyone take a chance to review his high school tape. He is a very solid runner between the tackles, not necessarily because of power, but because he has elite vision and anticipation - he finds the hole and gets through it quickly. You don't have to be Jerome Bettis to be a successful between-the-tackles runner.

Between Slade, Cain, and Brown I think we have a solid 3-headed monster - high end speed, quickness, and power. It will also be interesting to see if Ford works into the rotation joining the roster a bit behind the others on the depth chart.
 
Seider has already said that RB will be by committee this season. His reasoning was that he thought Sanders broke down at points last season, leading to rather unproductive games.

Slade isn't just a scat back, please everyone take a chance to review his high school tape. He is a very solid runner between the tackles, not necessarily because of power, but because he has elite vision and anticipation - he finds the hole and gets through it quickly. You don't have to be Jerome Bettis to be a successful between-the-tackles runner.

Between Slade, Cain, and Brown I think we have a solid 3-headed monster - high end speed, quickness, and power. It will also be interesting to see if Ford works into the rotation joining the roster a bit behind the others on the depth chart.
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The ones in a major bowl in the second half versus Washington. His 25 rushes as a true freshman. His 6.8 YPC average going into 2018. Also, the KO returns since he was a true freshmen. His ability to pass block and not just run or catch. The fact that he was almost 6' and 220 lbs.
Slade had 45 attempts for 257 yards last year. That is a total of 11 carries difference from Sanders before he started. Also Slade had 27 yards in the bowl game with very few carries. We will be more than fine.
 
Slade is an instinctive and natural runner. He finds seams to run through before they close using his speed. Brown is an awesome back with pure speed and strength. On the other hand, with Cain Penn State has a power back. Each of the three has different skill set. Coaches must play all of them including young freshman. Keep running the ball when running game is working. Keep them fresh.
 
Good stuff. I am not concerned about the defense. I am concerned about QB and RB...and to some extent, the OL. We have ample talent due to recruiting in recent years....however, until you do it, it isn't done. So my guess is we have a learning curve in the first half of the year complete with dumb turnovers, missed assignments, and sloppy play.
More worried about the OC
 
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And in all fairness, neither Brown nor Slade are true freshman as Sanders was during his debut year with his fumbleitis. He also managed to have some good runs and play some good football between the fumble outbreaks.
He was still fumbling as a junior.
 
I think Georgia has proven that you can keep 3 vg RB's together and happy. The learning curve is this year . No slight on Ford and I hope he takes his time developing.this year
 
Any chance B. Smith outgrows LB? Kid looks like he could add another 20 lbs....

He’s very long for a LB, as is Cam Brown. Smith obviously more muscle mass and better talent but both have body type more of DE.
That is a legitimate point. In my mind, the keys to a great season on offense are QB and LT. If Clifford is as good as the coaches think he is and, we finally get lucky and have a stud OL come in and perform at his projected high level, we could have a serious bad ass offense. Hamler was a top 5 freshman WR, Dotson was yellow light going into the season and ended up starting 4 games. Interestingly, 8 of his 13 catches went for 1st downs. Freiermuth had a great Frosh year and is already blocking like a seasoned TE. It's not asking much to have one or more of Shorter, George, Brown, Hipp, Carr, Chisena to step up this year.

Until proven otherwise on the field, I'm going to remain highly optimistic about this team.

Anyone else concerned how big Shorter is? Was compared to AJ Green out of HS but AJ was and still is thin. Shorter pushing 240 depending on his meal. He’ll be so vital to this season. I’m not convinced Daniel George doesn’t get serious run at some point.
 
I don't know what you're trying to argue here Knight. We know Slade's a player and there's good reason to expect he breaks out this year as a 2nd year player.

But, maybe I'm wrong, but just I don't think someone 5-9, 195 is a primary tailback in the B1G, not at the top tier. I think there's a really big difference between 5-9 195 and 5-11 220.

It's got to be tailback by committee and we don't know what the committee will be composed of, let alone what they can do. My money would be on Cain playing a lot because he's already shown how physical and strong he is.

Cain should play a lot and has that nasty demeanor we need. Very good chance at leading the team in carries etc.
 
You may be under selling Toney. In less than half the snaps of Miller, he had 5 sacks and 7.5 tackles for loss. Now he'll be playing at 243lbs with, assumably, the same high end speed.

Even at 243, very light for DE at big time program. Ideally, situational pass rusher. Worries how he’ll hold up all game against the run vs the big boys are valid. He’d come in fresh to rush passer last year, big difference in comparison to Shareef.
 
Safety, as always the weakness of this defense. Taylor solid but slow. No idea what we’re getting at other spot. Hard to believe Wade takes the leap. He’s a slot corner at best who gets bull dozed in run support, not sure his head is in the game half the time. With him coming back, really hope he wasn’t promised PT to stay. Sutherland probably a better option and Brisker the wild card. Moving Holmes to safety may be a signal additional help is needed but RB is stacked. If I’m attacking this defense it’s vertically, testing the safeties as the corners pass them off and running at Shaka.
 
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