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Football B1G Considering Change to Football Championship Weekend

I certainly hope that there is some coordination between the committee and the participating conferences.

In the current playoff format, PSU would have been required to play 17 games total to win the National Championship We ended up 13-3. 15-2 would have been our NC record.

Is there a target max number of games and has that number been approved by the university presidents/BOTs? The scheduling format for the various playoff games in its present configuration is disjointed and lacking IMO.

I hope that a tradition is established in terms of how and when these games our played and champion is ultimately crowned.

Just some random thoughts ....
 
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While I like the potential of this concept to even the playing field when it comes to schedule, we stand to lose the most with this proposed arrangement given that Franklin has precisely two quality wins lifetime in Big Ten play and they both occurred in 2016.
 
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I knew the conferences would want to further monetize a championship tournament . There’s too much money in it. Too many games if this happens. They need to figure that out.
Agree. This is too many games. They need to have one less conference game and the other two games should be played at the home field of the higher seed. An incentive for teams.
 
Baby step toward a 12 team playoff between just the SEC and Big Ten
Nope, more likely it is a baby step towards the Big Ten holding its own playoff and crowing its own champion. In ten years the Big Ten will probably be a league of its own with more teams than the NFL spanning coast to coast and north to south. It is pretty logical. Four regional divisions with 8 to 10 teams each made of AAU institutions all playing by the same rules while making the Big Ten Academic Alliance the dominant force in research. Athletic dollars pale in comparison to research dollars.
 
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While I like the potential of this concept to even the playing field when it comes to schedule, we stand to lose the most with this proposed arrangement given that Franklin has precisely two quality wins lifetime in Big Ten play and they both occurred in 2016.
What’s funny is if we would have beaten OSU this year, they would have had three losses and likely not made the playoffs and you would be saying it wasn’t a quality win because we beat OSU in a down year.
 
What’s funny is if we would have beaten OSU this year, they would have had three losses and likely not made the playoffs and you would be saying it wasn’t a quality win because we beat OSU in a down year.
We didn't beat them. Nothing changes the fact that Franklin doesn't beat good teams very often and I am not just talking top five.
 
While I like the potential of this concept to even the playing field when it comes to schedule, we stand to lose the most with this proposed arrangement given that Franklin has precisely two quality wins lifetime in Big Ten play and they both occurred in 2016.
Smh lol
 
I definitely favor this more than just eliminating CCGs. I actually rather liked the setup in 2020 where all teams played an extra conference game against a team they didn't meet that season - I wouldn't mind seeing one fewer regular season game and having that added on though the big issue would be attendance for an extra unplanned game.

I do think it makes sense for conferences to try to develop high profile games that they (the conference) control and can sell TV and tickets for. Especially the more powerful conferences aren't going to like to give up that control to allow for more CFP games where the revenue is split.
 
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I definitely favor this more than just eliminating CCGs. I actually rather liked the setup in 2020 where all teams played an extra conference game against a team they didn't meet that season - I wouldn't mind seeing one fewer regular season game and having that added on though the big issue would be attendance for an extra unplanned game.

I do think it makes sense for conferences to try to develop high profile games that they (the conference) control and can sell TV and tickets for. Especially the more powerful conferences aren't going to like to give up that control to allow for more CFP games where the revenue is split.
I think it would make a lot of sense to get rid of one OOC game (remove the Villanovas from the schedule!) and make that weekend a tournament weekend between friday and saturday to give all teams an extra (10th) conf game. Perhaps Philly, Indy, and LA can serve as tournament stadiums. You are absolutely right. The P2 conferences can monetize this nicely outside of the structure of the CFP structure.
 
Nope, more likely it is a baby step towards the Big Ten holding its own playoff and crowing its own champion. In ten years the Big Ten will probably be a league of its own with more teams than the NFL spanning coast to coast and north to south. It is pretty logical. Four regional divisions with 8 to 10 teams each made of AAU institutions all playing by the same rules while making the Big Ten Academic Alliance the dominant force in research. Athletic dollars pale in comparison to research dollars.
The SEC and Big Ten know they're strongest together. Hence the alliance.
 
The SEC and Big Ten know they're strongest together. Hence the alliance.
That may be true right now, or it may not, but it will not be true once the ACC's grant of rights goes away in a year or two and the Big Ten gains a true national footprint. The SEC then becomes a hindrance.
 
We didn't beat them. Nothing changes the fact that Franklin doesn't beat good teams very often and I am not just talking top five.
Stick to your Lando moniker, WallaceMart.

No one should bother arguing with you because, as you've proven, even when your own explicit words show you to be wrong, you can't admit you're wrong. Only Lando suffers from that level of self-delusion.
 
Ugh. Exactly the wrong thing to do is to add more games to the schedule for the young players in college. Nobody would care about mid-tier Big ten teams playing an extra game at the end of the year.


The Big ten should get rid of the championship game which means absolutely nothing and be happy with a 12 team playoff, which guarantees that all good teams with the ability to win the championship are in the playoff.
 
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Stick to your Lando moniker, WallaceMart.

No one should bother arguing with you because, as you've proven, even when your own explicit words show you to be wrong, you can't admit you're wrong. Only Lando suffers from that level of self-delusion.
Except for the simple fact that I have been proven right almost all the time. Deal with it, the fact you lack the ability to comprehend what you read isn't my problem.
 
The CFP is taking the money from the pocket of the conferences.

The conferences need to force a 4 team playoff and host their own tournament to pick their 1 team to go.

Brings the money back in conference.
One of several reasons why the logical course of action is for the Big Ten to gain a national footprint and take control of their own destiny and let the glorified junior colleges in the SEC to become true minor leagues.
 
I certainly hope that there is some coordination between the committee and the participating conferences.

In the current playoff format, PSU would have been required to play 17 games total to win the National Championship We ended up 13-3. 15-2 would have been our NC record.

Is there a target max number of games and has that number been approved by the university presidents/BOTs? The scheduling format for the various playoff games in its present configuration is disjointed and lacking IMO.

I hope that a tradition is established in terms of how and when these games our played and champion is ultimately crowned.

Just some random thoughts ....
I'm old enough to remember when they said we couldn't have a national championship (12th) game because it would conflict with academics.
 
That may be true right now, or it may not, but it will not be true once the ACC's grant of rights goes away in a year or two and the Big Ten gains a true national footprint. The SEC then becomes a hindrance.
False...that's even more reason to join forces
 
I'm old enough to remember when they said we couldn't have a national championship (12th) game because it would conflict with academics.
Then we realized all these kids are just getting dain bramaged smashing into one another as they work this full-time job for our amusement, so we did away with that charade.
 
Except for the simple fact that I have been proven right almost all the time. Deal with it, the fact you lack the ability to comprehend what you read isn't my problem.
Progress! We've gone from you asserting you've been proven right every single time, to now "almost all the time." If we keep revisiting this, we'll eventually wear you down toward admitting the truth - that you've never been proven right about anything. Poor Lando.
 
Then we realized all these kids are just getting dain bramaged smashing into one another as they work this full-time job for our amusement, so we did away with that charade.
Dain bramaged?

Football can certainly be a dangerous sport but you conveniently leave out the fact that the players want to play and are willing do so so for free starting with Pop Warner. What about all the kids playing DII and DIII? Do they all do it for our amusement?

You also leave out the fact that most don't make it to the NFL or have a long career even if they do. Maybe the academic side is important or at least it should be.

"We" didn't realize anything. Players realized there was a lot of money involved and they could bargain for a cut. The NCAA lost control so here we are.
 
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Dain bramaged?

Football can certainly be a dangerous sport but you conveniently leave out the fact that the players want to play and are willing do so so for free starting with Pop Warner. What about all the kids playing DII and DIII? Do they all do it for our amusement?

You also leave out the fact that most don't make it to the NFL or have a long career even if they do. Maybe the academic side is important or at least it should be.

"We" didn't realize anything. Players realized there was a lot of money involved and they could bargain for a cut. The NCAA lost control so here we are.
But, as much as I hate agreeing him, he's right. This is why they should be paid. DII and DIII kids should be paid if they're bringing in revenue. Players can be paid and still get an education if they want to. The NCAA lost control because we waited too long to pay them.
 
False...that's even more reason to join forces
Very true in fact. The SEC will whither away without access to the post season and the Big Ten can take that away and I believe are actually trying to do exactly that. The SEC is desperate. It is a regional conference that is little more than a minor league. The SEC is terrified of Florida, Mizzou and the Texas schools jumping ship. Do you really think the SEC will thrive if all they have is Bama, Georgia and OU and are stuck playing the likes of Oklahoma State and Clemson in the post season? The Big Ten has the opportunity to shoot the SEC is inbred forehood and it should. Use them in the meantime they toss them to the curb.
 
But, as much as I hate agreeing him, he's right. This is why they should be paid. DII and DIII kids should be paid if they're bringing in revenue. Players can be paid and still get an education if they want to. The NCAA lost control because we waited too long to pay them.
No D1 player deserves to be payed in any sport. Their grant in aid is MORE than they deserve.
 
Very true in fact. The SEC will whither away without access to the post season and the Big Ten can take that away and I believe are actually trying to do exactly that. The SEC is desperate. It is a regional conference that is little more than a minor league. The SEC is terrified of Florida, Mizzou and the Texas schools jumping ship. Do you really think the SEC will thrive if all they have is Bama, Georgia and OU and are stuck playing the likes of Oklahoma State and Clemson in the post season? The Big Ten has the opportunity to shoot the SEC is inbred forehood and it should. Use them in the meantime they toss them to the curb.
What are you talking about...
Just nonsense
 
The fact that you don't get the complexity but lol is telling. The complexity is getting there, the solution is rather simple. Nobody cares about SEC football outside of the southeast if the Texas schools are removed from the equation. Both would jump at the chance to join the Big Ten if offered. They would make more money on athletics and their research portfolio would grow significantly dwarfing their gains from athletics, possibly by an order of magnitude. Since you need to have things explained to you Barney style, an order of magnitude would be a factor of ten. The same applies to any aau school that joins. If the Big Ten can go national, and there is every reason to think they can by adding Arizona, Utah, Kansas, Texas, Texas A&M, Mizzou, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Duke, UVA, GT, Miami and maybe even Florida. The SEC will be left with Bama and OU and they would be stuck. Nobody cares about SEC football outside the southeast. The math is shockingly simple here. Even you might get it if you concentrate.
 
Dain bramaged?

Football can certainly be a dangerous sport but you conveniently leave out the fact that the players want to play and are willing do so so for free starting with Pop Warner. What about all the kids playing DII and DIII? Do they all do it for our amusement?

You also leave out the fact that most don't make it to the NFL or have a long career even if they do. Maybe the academic side is important or at least it should be.

"We" didn't realize anything. Players realized there was a lot of money involved and they could bargain for a cut. The NCAA lost control so here we are.
Yes, dain bramaged. You've never heard the "dain bramaged" joke? Oy. "Willing do so so" = dain bramage. Yes, we brainwash them young - starting with Pop Warner. Hardly anyone gives a poo about DII and DIII. After all, they aren't the bestest. DII is mostly future teachers who can't deal with the fact they don't have the size to play D1. DIII is a mix of even smaller/slower meatheads and smart guys just playing a bit more football and using it for an education (like it should be).

 
No D1 player deserves to be payed in any sport. Their grant in aid is MORE than they deserve.
"Paid" not "payed," rocket surgeon. And stop arguing with yourself. D1 football players bring in billions of dollars of revenue working their full-time job of playing football. They've clearly earned more than tens of thousands of dollars toward an education they can't fully take advantage of, due their football obligation.
 
"Paid" not "payed," rocket surgeon. And stop arguing with yourself. D1 football players bring in billions of dollars of revenue working their full-time job of playing football. They've clearly earned more than tens of thousands of dollars toward an education they can't fully take advantage of, due their football obligation.
Is the sole metric to determine if a college athlete gets paid is if they play a revenue generating sport?
 
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