Betting scandal at U Alabama baseball?

[Delco Lion]

Sounds fishy….

Alabama baseball coach fired the same week Ohio and New Jersey halt betting on Alabama games

Alabama said Brad Bohannon was fired for "violating the standards, duties and responsibilities expected of university employees."

www.yahoo.com

 

[Erial_Lion]

It sounds like it's basically the sports gambling equivalent to Insider Trading. I'm interested though in how much they're willing to take on a regular season NCAA baseball game (must be more than I thought) for two bets to raise alarms (though I wouldn't be shocked if there is a pattern that goes beyond what is being reported).

 

[Obliviax]

I know the state of Ohio suspended all Alabama baseball better until further notice.

Fact is, with the proliferation of betting, there is just no way to control this.

 

[Erial_Lion]

I know the state of Ohio suspended all Alabama baseball better until further notice.

Fact is, with the proliferation of betting, there is just no way to control this.

Of course there is...this is the definition of controlling it. Legal betting is what allows these types of controls that you wouldn't see otherwise.

 

[Obliviax]

Of course there is...this is the definition of controlling it. Legal betting is what allows these types of controls that you wouldn't see otherwise.

OK.

How to you expect to control "insider" betting?

Let's say the starting pitcher for Alabama is having shoulder problems but the team hasn't disclosed this because they don't want the opposition to know. Lets say that is Vanderbilt. he's not having a problem with his fastball but his curve. Freshmen First Year outfielder finds out and sends a text to a buddy that the starter is likely to get lit up. Buddy bets against AL and tells another buddy on Vanderbilt just to make sure his bet is solid. "sit on the Fastball" he says.

In the MLB, any of those players is taking their careers at great risk. A college player? Not so much. Plus, they are not very mature.

I get this can go on underground in illegal betting and probably has for years. But when you do that illegally, you know you have no recourse. with this, the consumer assumes it is above board and they aren't getting cheated.

 

[Erial_Lion]

OK.

How to you expect to control "insider" betting?

Let's say the starting pitcher for Alabama is having shoulder problems but the team hasn't disclosed this because they don't want the opposition to know. Lets say that is Vanderbilt. he's not having a problem with his fastball but his curve. Freshmen First Year outfielder finds out and sends a text to a buddy that the starter is likely to get lit up. Buddy bets against AL and tells another buddy on Vanderbilt just to make sure his bet is solid. "sit on the Fastball" he says.

In the MLB, any of those players is taking their careers at great risk. A college player? Not so much. Plus, they are not very mature.

I get this can go on underground in illegal betting and probably has for years. But when you do that illegally, you know you have no recourse. with this, the consumer assumes it is above board and they aren't getting cheated.

Exactly what happened in this instance is how "insider" betting is controlled. The Alabama starting pitcher had an injury that wasn't public, info leaked out about it, and a suspicious betting pattern emerged which caused them to pull the game off the board and flag it. The books are sharing information and have controls in place to look for unusual betting patterns.

If this was all done via offshore books and corner bookies, it's never captured. But legal books dig into this type of pattern.

 

[Obliviax]

Exactly what happened in this instance is how "insider" betting is controlled. The Alabama starting pitcher had an injury that wasn't public, info leaked out about it, and a suspicious betting pattern emerged which caused them to pull the game off the board and flag it. The books are sharing information and have controls in place to look for unusual betting patterns.

If this was all done via offshore books and corner bookies, it's never captured. But legal books dig into this type of pattern.

Good point.

I think we both can be right. people will get smarter about sharing that information. At the same time, with illegal betting, the reach would be smaller but less controllable.

has there been any accountability? If not, while they didn't prosper, they got away with it. They'll just be smarter next time. I wouldn't discount a smart better taking a key college kid to "Epstein Island" and then telling him to throw the next game or the photos come out. A MLB player would lose millions if exposed. College player? Not a lot of downside.

 

[Erial_Lion]

Good point.

I think we both can be right. people will get smarter about sharing that information. At the same time, with illegal betting, the reach would be smaller but less controllable.

has there been any accountability? If not, while they didn't prosper, they got away with it. They'll just be smarter next time. I wouldn't discount a smart better taking a key college kid to "Epstein Island" and then telling him to throw the next game or the photos come out. A MLB player would lose millions if exposed. College player? Not a lot of downside.

I mean, the coach got fired (though it hasn't been confirmed how much of it was due to this incident vs other stuff), and I'm sure the culprit in Ohio will have issues opening a legit account anywhere in the future.

There isn't enough money to be made with college baseball for it to be worth the risk for someone to commit some big crimes. Get to basketball and football and it makes more sense, but again, those people would be looking to place their action offshore and not at legal US books.

 

[EPC FAN]

Sounds fishy….

Alabama baseball coach fired the same week Ohio and New Jersey halt betting on Alabama games

Alabama said Brad Bohannon was fired for "violating the standards, duties and responsibilities expected of university employees."

www.yahoo.com

Anyone who bets on ANY games should receive a straight jacket, permanently.