Fun article from the Bloodround guys!
http://www.bloodround.com/blog/2018/8/18/bo-nickal-crusher-of-dreams
http://www.bloodround.com/blog/2018/8/18/bo-nickal-crusher-of-dreams
Bo Nickal..dream crusher
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F*n indeed! Bo is probably the very last person on the planet that would purposely lose at anything.
But I suppose that’s what makes the plot so devious. Abounader should have had at least 2 though. I’ll admit that. Coach’s fault for not challenging (or wasting his challenge elsewhere).
But I suppose that’s what makes the plot so devious. Abounader should have had at least 2 though. I’ll admit that. Coach’s fault for not challenging (or wasting his challenge elsewhere).
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My favorite line among many..
"He can do anything to anyone, but don't worry, he'll remind you that it's been happening to everyone for years after it happens to you. "
"Sitting next to my friend Brandon (big Ohio State fan, and co host of The Inside Trip Podcast), and watching the inevitable championship slip through their grasp, and watching the color drain from his face, was really hard to watch. I couldn't even really enjoy what was a pretty iconic moment because I felt bad for what I had just seen. It's like if your friend tells you about their pet that died, and you feel bad, but you didn't really like that pet anyway."
The more I think about it. Bo's pin of Martin may be the most dramatic moment in NCAA wrestling history given all the circumstances.
Agree 100%. Unless someone can chime in when a finals match had those types of team race impliacations it’s hard to top. Plus the dramatic fashion of how the match played out, I can’t see anything topping this
Hyperbole? No way. I'm not known for sensationalizing much...so a simple "I agree" will do. I can't remember a "moment" that was more impactful on the championship in my lifetime of watching wrestling.
Other "moments" I remember that affected Penn State's fate include;
-- Ed Ruth's MD win in 2013, followed by Q's victory, sealing the 4 point win.
-- Not a PSU match, I also remember Gwiz' big win over Nelson in 2014 that sealed the NC for PSU, in what would be a close 5.5 point victory over Minnesota.
Since 1979, when the NCAA first awarded placement points through 8th Place, the closest championships were in 1999 (Iowa over Minnesota by 2 Points), 2013 (PSU over OK St. by 4 Points), and 2009 (Iowa over tOSU by 4.5 Points). Already mentioned the 2013 Championship. Can anyone remember a similar "moment" from 1999 or 2009 to what happened in Cleveland?
In 1999 Minnesota had finalists at 184, 197, & 285 and went 1-2. A win by Eggum over Cael or Lesnar over Neal and they would have won. Have both of those matches were uneventful. Cael handled Eggum easily and Lesnar shot exactly once and Neal ran around him for the winning TD and then they danced for the next 5 minutes or so.
Agreed it's hard to picture the stars aligning in the same way ever again, where either guy's victory meant not only their own national championship but the team title, compounded by their rivalry, which saw Bo go to his back and lose two years prior. It's common enough for one guy to have the team title on his shoulders in the finals, but how often do opponents in the same final bear that? Probably never or we'd have talked about it. And then to end like it did.
The only sort-of anti-climactic part to it is that it happened in the first period. It ended far sooner than anyone would've imagined. Imagine it going down the same way in OT how tense that arena would've been.
The one other variable that could have ratcheted up the heat further was if Snyder vs Coon would have already been in the books. Still, pretty tough to imagine a crazier situation than what actually happened last March.
Fun read. To commemorate that memorable (epic?) moment maybe the “elevator” should be renamed the “dream crusher.”
I think that actually added to the dramatic content, if not the tension level.
Bo should've pulled Martin off the mat before the ref called the fall, wagged his finger at the crowd to say "not yet," and then hit something even more spectacular in the 3rd.
That's when the rest of the team rushes the mat to give Jaggers a beatdown. Jason's crutches may or may not be involved.
Exactly! Do it in the first period, and you have annihilated someone and crushed his dream. Do it in OT and the someone thinks he is on your level and you just got lucky. First period is better.
I feel the ,3 greatest pins in the NCAA finals over the last 20 years are as follow:
#3. Gaston pin of Snyder.
Due to fact how great Snyder is.
#2. Rohn pin of Lembrecht
Because of how improbable it was. Down by over 10 points with about a minute to go.
#1. Bo's pin of Martin
It is number 1 for me for the fact of how special and dangerous the move was and how it impacted the team outcome. If Bo doesn't leverage Martin over he's down 6-0 or worst..
#3. Gaston pin of Snyder.
Due to fact how great Snyder is.
#2. Rohn pin of Lembrecht
Because of how improbable it was. Down by over 10 points with about a minute to go.
#1. Bo's pin of Martin
It is number 1 for me for the fact of how special and dangerous the move was and how it impacted the team outcome. If Bo doesn't leverage Martin over he's down 6-0 or worst..
Snyder wasn't even B10 champ that year.
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Snyder wasn't even B10 champ that year.
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yeah, I was about to say, Cenzo's pin of Imar in the 2017 finals has to be somewhere on the greatest pins or most dramatic finals moment lists.
Snyder wasn't even B10 champ that year.
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One of the best gifs ever
In all seriousness, I'd slot it in as #2. Junior two time champ (who beat Nolf twice) gets stuck? Snyder hadn't won anything to that point and Rohn's pin was a total reversal of the match, but Cenzo? That was stupendous.
Sometimes annihilating an opponent with stunning speed and efficiency can be the most dramatic scenario of all.
Bo has been my favorite since he put on the singlet. That being said, he does those things so often you can take them for granted. I don't take that situation for granted, but Vincenzo's pin over Imar was a bigger moment for me.
Didn't have the same riding on the match, but his path to even meet Imar was special. Didn't he avenge every loss?
Didn't have the same riding on the match, but his path to even meet Imar was special. Didn't he avenge every loss?
Take into consideration all the other points to the match:
In Ohio.
Nolf hurt.
On his back.
Has lost this way to Martin on different occasions.
Martin's family is active on social media/hype.
Olympic and World Champion closing out the tournament for OSU in his last collegiate match.
Nickal takes risks. Martin is super athletic.
The dual meet results from a few weeks prior.
The natural rivalry between OH and PA and then especially in wrestling.
That class of OSU seniors was one of the best groups ever.
The list goes on and on. It was my first NCAA's. I don't see how anything could have topped that in my lifetime.
It was. I was there. PSU had already locked up the team title and the overall reaction from fans there seemed to be "that's too bad. He can't win four now." Very few were broken up about the loss.
It's highly unlikely anything will, to be honest. It's all downhill from here.
I disagree. Every NCAAs I go to is better than all the prior ones. JMHO.
I understand you're looking through the PSU lenses, but Jenkins over Taylor was equally epic and unexpected.
No. Nothing was riding on the match except the individual championship. PSU had already won the team title. So not as epic. It was perhaps equivalent to Gadson/Snyder.
What was riding on the Rohn/Lembrecht match, given what the OP was saying here, "I feel the ,3 greatest pins in the NCAA finals over the last 20 years are as follow:"?
WTH is wrong with you lately? First your nonsense on the other thread about booing and now this?
You're on a PSU board. You really think a PSU fan would put MagicMan getting pinned as their top 3 moments?
You think a tOSU fan would put Bo pinning Martin as one of their top 3 moments? Get a grip
You're starting to get annoying. Just Saying..
Precisely why I prefaced it with, "the PSU lenses" statement so as to try to keep it impartial.
With that said, given the three other dramatic pins in the finals that were listed, would it be a stretch to you to think that many would find the pin of Taylor by Jenkins, also given all that had happened before, to NOT be considered dramatic? If not, I'd like to know why you don't think that it is. It certainly rocked me when I saw it.
You consider individuals who aren't fond of booing to be "nonsensical?" So, if your child is playing and one fan is booing his/her team, while another fan is not, the non-booing fan is the "nonsensical" one?
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Please don't muddy up this thread with your BS. This thread is about a fun article about Bo Nickal. It brings us PSU fans back to that amazing moment. I can give a rat's ass about boo
Then be angry at the guy who brought up the three dramatic pins, not those of us who offer another impartial suggestion.
Keep in mind, I'm a neutral observer with PSU, but have always admired how good they are, how they conduct themselves (hence, my surprise at the booing), and how Sanderson conducts himself. My comment had nothing to do with a dig at anyone; I like Taylor myself.
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