RS-freshman are actually "sophomores" academically, age-wise and physically. IMar is not a "freshman" in college - and it is a huge distinction with a meaning... Very few "true freshman" are able to do what Zain Retherford did last year for example. Huge difference, especially physically and experience-wise (given that you still compete unattached against collegiate competition your actual freshman year) between a real "freshman" and a sophomore competing as a "RS-freshman". The announcers are acting like he is just out of highschool and I do not believe this is the case.
BTN announcers keep saying IMar is a "freshman", he's a RS-freshman no?
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Whatever he is, he just embarrassed Ness just like Dieringer did in last year's NCAA finals. He had the perfect plan too.
Would love to hear opinions of how Jason Nolf will fare next year against IMar.
Would love to hear opinions of how Jason Nolf will fare next year against IMar.
No doubt, very impressive for a sophmore competing as a rsFr against a 2-time AA, but I doubt he turns in that performance last year when he really was a true freshman. Not saying it wasn't an impressive performance for a rsFr, but would have been a mind-boggling year if he truely were a "freshman" right out of HS.
He is a redshirt So, a third year wrestler. This is the first I've seen him live. Very active. Great wrestler
According to the official Illini roster, IMar is a RS Freshman making him only a 2nd year wrestler. Lets not minimize his accomplishment. After all, next year Jason Nolf will be a RS Freshman. meaning he will be a Freshman athletically and a Sophomore academically.
Well, IMar has beaten James Green and Dylan Ness fairly convincingly, which is really impressive. Based on limited data (the Southern Scuffle), I don't think Nolf is at that level just yet. Assuming both Nolf and IMar continue to improve at roughly the same rate, I'll definitely give an edge to Imar next year.
So when Zain steps on the mat next year, are you going to point out to every broadcaster that he's actually a junior, despite him being a redshirt sophomore? I mean, there's a huge difference, especially physically and experience-wise, between a true sophomore and a redshirt sophomore.
File this under NBD.
I-Mar is a freshman athletically, thus he'll be called a freshman by everyone.
File this under NBD.
I-Mar is a freshman athletically, thus he'll be called a freshman by everyone.
I concur on this ...
with athletes the class mentioned is typically their athletic eligibility class, not the class level that the University places them in. the announcers/writers/etc. can throw in the term "redshirt" to distinguish if they choose to, but it's not needed.
plus, it could also happen in the opposite direction. if a kid was an excellent student, scored high on quite a few AP tests, and then entered college in January of their senior high school year, or June right after HS graduation, they could technically have sophomore standing as freshmen from a University perspective, but would be a freshman from an athletic eligibility perspective. What if such student were to then redshirt their 1st year? The following year they would be juniors by the University's classification, and RS freshman to the NCAA.
NBD is how I look at it as well.
Tom
with athletes the class mentioned is typically their athletic eligibility class, not the class level that the University places them in. the announcers/writers/etc. can throw in the term "redshirt" to distinguish if they choose to, but it's not needed.
plus, it could also happen in the opposite direction. if a kid was an excellent student, scored high on quite a few AP tests, and then entered college in January of their senior high school year, or June right after HS graduation, they could technically have sophomore standing as freshmen from a University perspective, but would be a freshman from an athletic eligibility perspective. What if such student were to then redshirt their 1st year? The following year they would be juniors by the University's classification, and RS freshman to the NCAA.
NBD is how I look at it as well.
Tom
