Burfict
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He's had several concussions so there's that.
This guy may also may be mentally ill.
Get him off the field.
He and some others are embarrassing but hey it's entertainment. Rollerball anyone?
This guy may also may be mentally ill.
Get him off the field.
He and some others are embarrassing but hey it's entertainment. Rollerball anyone?
Shazier should equally be fined for his uncalled, clearly illegal, beyond dangerous hit that took a Bengal out of the game.
Burfect needs removed from the sport permanently.
You continue to show you don't understand the rules of football.. Bernard became a runner and the hit was legal. It was a nasty hit, but legal, but you wouldn't understand cause you don't know football.
Burfict was head hunting all night.
The hit on Bernard was a cheap shot. Shazier lowered the crown of his helmet into Bernard's facemask.
Spearing is not legal dip$hit - I already posted the rule once. HERE IT IS AGAIN. You're full of $hit and don't know what you're f'ing talking about, it is not a legal hit moron!
Suck it Cincy!!! OSU may beat us up most Saturdays but I get to salve my wounds Sunday after Sunday after Sunday...
No doubt about it, it was absolutely an illegal hit - textbook Personal Foul Spearing - and a clear cheap-shot. THE RULES couldn't be any more clear about it.
Actually that is incorrect. Bernard was a runner and lowered his head bracing for impact. That hit was clean.
I think it was a legal hit, and so did the refs, who I thought did their best to control this street fight.
Even the retired official said it was legal.
I respectfully disagree. I saw Shazier lower his head so that the crown of his helmet hit Bernard square in the facemask. He was face up on him and then lowered his head at the last second.
I think Shazier's hit was borderline, but if I recall correctly all of the announcers, including the rules "expert", thought it was a good no call. Burfict was clearly going for a kill shot not to mention he was instigating stuff all night and tried to take out Ben earlier in the season. The guy had the same kind of reputation at ASU, it's why part of the reason why he went from sure-fire 1st round pick to in drafted free agent. He is trash and I hope Goodell takes notice.
A hit can be both "legal" and dirty. Shazier knew exactly what he was doing. If Brown is mad at anyone it should be Shazier. He started the cheap shot battle and got Brown killed in retaliation.
Mike Carey was wrong on that one. They get so caught up on the "Defenseless Receiver" part of the rule that they forget the part of the rule where you're not allowed to lead with your helmet or lower it to initiate contact. It was clearly a personal foul by the rules, however they don't call that part of the rules nearly as closely as the defenseless receiver part.
Absolutely no doubt - textbook "Spearing" with the intent of trying to hurt the Cincinnati player which he did - player laid on field forever and then could not return to game. But you have people on here who say that clearly dirty and illegal hit was a-okay because their favorite team benefited. A dirty hit is a dirty hit and people, regardless of who they root for saying dirty bits like that are wonderful is why this league has such a PR problem....because they deserve it. Disgraceful that Shazier was not flagged as a player UNNECESSARILY lay on the ground & could have easily been paralyzed. DISGRACEFUL AND INEXPLICABLE as to why officials would allow that type of dirty hit and ENCOURAGE RETALIATION IN-KIND which is precisely what transpired.
Uh, no. The CLEAR difference between the two plays is intent. Shazier was tackling a player who was facing him and, while he did hit him high with his helmet, did not intend to do so. Should it have been a penalty? Perhaps, but the officiating expert hired by the tv station did not think so. On the other hand, what Burfect did was intentional, unnecessary and gratuitous. It was certainly a penalty and warrants a suspension. Burfect, Pacman Jones and their ilk got what they deserved. Both should be given their outright release tomorrow. Shazier does not have a bad reputation. Burfect does, and it is well,deserved. I hope he never plays another down and spends the rest of his life dwelling on how he failed his team and (hopefully) ended his career. Too bad he is wealthy, because if it weren't for football he would be digging ditches.
The hit was not legal. Spearing is NOT LEGAL - do you people know how to freaking read? HERE'S THE RULE yet again - Shazier's hit was unquestionably illegal under the rules and the officials not enforcing the rules is precisely what begat the RETALIATION.
Nope... Ive watched it several times. His shoulder contacted Bernard first.
The Bengals were playing dirty and classless long before Shazier's hit. And if his hit was indeed dirty and legal, that's still a hell of a lot better than just a flat out kill shot. Shazier was at least making a play on the ball carrier. Burfict wanted to inflict damage.
Regardless, there's no excuse for a "cheap shot battle." This isn't baseball where retaliating by hitting a batter is likely to result in a bruise. Brown could have (and may have) suffered a serious concussion if not worse.
I agree 100% on Burfict. At what point do his teammates intervene? If I'm a teammate who gutted it out for 59 minutes only to see Burfict blow it with his loose cannon act, I'm pretty pissed at him. When do the teammates go to Marvin Lewis and say "enough is enough with this clown. Either he goes or we go".
Pacman just tweeted an f bomb laced video of him trashing the refs. Nice.
Liked Munchaks PF.
Burfect should be suspended at least four games. Not sure what the refs were thinking leaving him in the game.,,.dud is a menace and an embarrassment to the NFL.
Liked Munchaks PF.
Burfect should be suspended at least four games. Not sure what the refs were thinking leaving him in the game.,,.dud is a menace and an embarrassment to the NFL.
Shazier didn't drop his helmet and "intend" to drive the crown of his helmet DIRECTLY AND SQUARELY into the Bengal player's head? What video were you watching because that claim is complete and utter bull$hit. Shazier fully intended to hurt the player with that BLATANTLY ILLEGAL HEADSHOT - not only did he intend to, he did, and the player laid there forever and never returned to the game! Player could have easily been paralyzed, but to claim Shazier had no idea what he was doing and wasn't looking to deliver a wholly unnecessary cheap shot is complete and utter bull$hit - he knew precisely what he was doing.
And the story had been that Pacman had completely turned around his life. I hope for his sake that's true, but he certainly showed his true colors at the end.
And agreed. If this league suspends guys for their actions in their private lives, intentionally trying to injure players on the field should warrant a long suspension too. Personally, I'd like to see 8 games but I won't hold my breath.
Just as the Bengals player could have suffered severe injury from Shazier's ILLEGAL hit. In fact, the Bengals player laid on the field forever and then left the game and could not return. Shazier's hit was unquestionably both dirty and illegal under the ACTUAL RULES.
Your opinion has been noted, with 7 posts in this thread alone on this rant.
If Shazier lifts his head up, it's a more violent helmet on helmet. So, lesser of 2 evils I guess. If Bernard had not been deemed "a runner", it probably would have been the "defenseless receiver" rule. But no. A vicious hit, yes. Intent? We'll never know. Not so with the hit on Brown. Burfict is a moron, and should be suspended.
Impossible to tackle a guy squared up the way Shazier was with Bernard without hitting his helmet with your helmet first. Unless you run at him standing straight up and try to bearhug him. The defender's choices are lower his head and hit with the crown, don't lower it and hit with the front, or try to take a slightly different angle from the start so he can lead with his shoulder. Shazier's hit was brutal but entirely legal. Bernard looked upfield up the sideline but not to his left where Shazier was coming from so he got blindsided. Shazier also didn't spear Bernard, that's a joke. One of his feet was still on the ground (in the middle of a stride) when contact was initiated. There was no launching motion from either of Shazier's legs.
Burfict was obviously trying to take Brown's head off. Doesn't matter that he did it with his shoulder. You don't hit someone who is in midair like that unless you're trying to hurt them.
Burfict was obviously trying to take Brown's head off. Doesn't matter that he did it with his shoulder. You don't hit someone who is in midair like that unless you're trying to hurt them.
I don't know you, but you are wrong on your position on this. Was not an illegal hit, or it would have been called. Both announcers and the former NFL referee agreed...............
