The only say "one-on-one" time I really ever had with Joe was about 20 years ago when my son and I were walking from the Lasch building into mid-campus. My son and I were walking in the evening and no-one was around, and as we turned the corner, here came Joe Paterno right at us. We said "Hi Joe". He turned, looked at us and said, " Hi, how are you fellows doing". Now I know this was not a major 1 on 1 dialogue, but it has stuck in both my son's and my mind for all these years. It also helped my son decide that he too would go to Penn State. It is amazing that such a chance, brief meeting was so impactful in our lives. Was this the God-like football culture that Freeh portrayed amongst Penn Staters? Call it what you want, but Joe was a great man, and I will always defend Joe as long as I have to!