Chambers suspended

[PennStateNate]

For Sunday game.

I think he is going to get canned st years end to be honest. Sandy didn’t sound thrill about his actions last night.

 

[Bob78]

Don't know what will happen at year's end, but....

He recognized that he made a mistake by crossing that line.
He owned up to it and apologized immediately and sincerely to all relevant parties.
His actions carried a consequence, and he is not protesting it publicly and therefore extending the issue.
The punishment fits the crime (or at least is not too light).
He and hopefully Myles Dread and the team will work through the suspension and get back to work immediately afterwards (aka they will all move on from it) and learn from it.

So, recognition - apology - consequence - move on. That should satisfy everyone and make it a non-issue from here on (unless repeated). It won't satisfy everyone. If this incident has negative ripple effects beyond this weekend and season, I'll be disappointed but not surprised. Whatever happens to Pat's coaching contract after this season should be based on merit and not this incident.

In general, imo, sincere apologies for this degree of mistake need to be accepted and put behind. Otherwise, what is the point of apologizing and learning and growing from any mistake? We are all gonna make a good number of them.

 

[jimdavis40]

Pat isn't getting it done. Team looks lost and doesn't have a clue at times. Poor coaching of these young men. Talent is there but reaching it and developing it hasn't happened. Both basketball programs are a total disaster. Fans have given up years ago. Jordan center is empty so bad they had to put up black curtains to make it look less empty. Sad state. How many years do you give a coach to turn a program in the right direction? Its been long enough.

 

[hotmetal]

My impression of Chambers is that he's one bad call away from a meltdown.

 

[redbyrds]

Should have been fired today.
Team also under achieving and now coach is a recruiting liability.

University must have a zero tolerance policy for abusing players. Now AD is looking weak.

 

[Gumpsion]

All you people want Pat gone. What about Coach Washington? she has been here 12 years and the last several years the team has sucked. She is never disciplined when she screams at here players, and she does. It is audible to fans in sections 106 and 107. So it amazes me that Sandy, who sits several feet away can’t here. Washington should have been gone last year.

 

[canuckhal]

All you people want Pat gone. What about Coach Washington? she has been here 12 years and the last several years the team has sucked. She is never disciplined when she screams at here players, and she does. It is audible to fans in sections 106 and 107. So it amazes me that Sandy, who sits several feet away can’t here. Washington should have been gone last year.

Why? Few people care about men's bb. Even fewer care about women's bb. Chambers also caught on national tv shoving the player. If it was yelling, he probably would have been okay.

 

[jbenedict]

All you people want Pat gone. What about Coach Washington? she has been here 12 years and the last several years the team has sucked. She is never disciplined when she screams at here players, and she does. It is audible to fans in sections 106 and 107. So it amazes me that Sandy, who sits several feet away can’t here. Washington should have been gone last year.

Now that's a different story.

 

[interrobang]

The snowflake society caused the suspension, not the actual incident

 

[psu00]

All you people want Pat gone. What about Coach Washington? she has been here 12 years and the last several years the team has sucked. She is never disciplined when she screams at here players, and she does. It is audible to fans in sections 106 and 107. So it amazes me that Sandy, who sits several feet away can’t here. Washington should have been gone last year.

I agree Washington should be gone based on team performance. That said, I have no problem with her, or any other coach, yelling at a player.

 

[83wuzme]

I have certainly seen worse. However, PSU wants to avoid any sort of public opprobrium and will for some time to come. I don’t know whether this spells the end for Chambers, but it doesn’t look good.

 

[84Lion]

My impression of Chambers is that he's one bad call away from a meltdown.

You mean like that Duquesne coach?

Be just our luck...the one time that the B1G refs could help Penn State with a bad call, they won't.

 

[christoph]

No the teams is not “underachieving “. They are achieving exactly what they should. It’s not a great team. We won the nit last year. We are not a basketball school and have a hard time getting kids to play in a multipurpose stadium. He’s doing the best that can be done. Sorry!!

 

[BBrown]

All you people want Pat gone. What about Coach Washington? she has been here 12 years and the last several years the team has sucked. She is never disciplined when she screams at here players, and she does. It is audible to fans in sections 106 and 107. So it amazes me that Sandy, who sits several feet away can’t here. Washington should have been gone last year.

A few things.
I agree Washington probably should have been canned a few years ago.
But yelling and shoving are not the same thing. Now is she cursing at them or calling them deragatory names? If so thats different.
But IMO the big difference is Pat shoved a player on national TV. If it had happened it BJC no one would have noticed....because no one would have been there.

 

[Diego Badman]

Don't know what will happen at year's end, but....

He recognized that he made a mistake by crossing that line.
He owned up to it and apologized immediately and sincerely to all relevant parties.
His actions carried a consequence, and he is not protesting it publicly and therefore extending the issue.
The punishment fits the crime (or at least is not too light).
He and hopefully Myles Dread and the team will work through the suspension and get back to work immediately afterwards (aka they will all move on from it) and learn from it.

So, recognition - apology - consequence - move on. That should satisfy everyone and make it a non-issue from here on (unless repeated). It won't satisfy everyone. If this incident has negative ripple effects beyond this weekend and season, I'll be disappointed but not surprised. Whatever happens to Pat's coaching contract after this season should be based on merit and not this incident.

In general, imo, sincere apologies for this degree of mistake need to be accepted and put behind. Otherwise, what is the point of apologizing and learning and growing from any mistake? We are all gonna make a good number of them.

You are right. Too many times, someone will apologize, and a faction will say “that is not enough.” It has become counterproductive to apologize because it is perceived as an opportunity, by some, to further an agenda.

 

[lbujoe33]

Don't know what will happen at year's end, but....

He recognized that he made a mistake by crossing that line.
He owned up to it and apologized immediately and sincerely to all relevant parties.
His actions carried a consequence, and he is not protesting it publicly and therefore extending the issue.
The punishment fits the crime (or at least is not too light).
He and hopefully Myles Dread and the team will work through the suspension and get back to work immediately afterwards (aka they will all move on from it) and learn from it.

So, recognition - apology - consequence - move on. That should satisfy everyone and make it a non-issue from here on (unless repeated). It won't satisfy everyone. If this incident has negative ripple effects beyond this weekend and season, I'll be disappointed but not surprised. Whatever happens to Pat's coaching contract after this season should be based on merit and not this incident.

In general, imo, sincere apologies for this degree of mistake need to be accepted and put behind. Otherwise, what is the point of apologizing and learning and growing from any mistake? We are all gonna make a good number of them.

I agree Bob.

 

[Sharkies]

Washington should have been canned years ago, and if she isn't after this year, then Sandy needs to be fired.

The fact that they are negotiating a new contract for Sandy is incredible, given she has done jack shit.

 

[PennStateProud55]

Still believe we can make elite 8

 

[PennStateNate]

Washington should have been canned years ago, and if she isn't after this year, then Sandy needs to be fired.

The fact that they are negotiating a new contract for Sandy is incredible, given she has done jack shit.

Fire the AD cause she won’t fire the WBB Coach. Lol.

Talk about a knee jerk reaction. Only reason you want Sandy fired is cause she is gay. Just admit it.

 

[psu7113]

Should have been fired today.
Team also under achieving and now coach is a recruiting liability.

University must have a zero tolerance policy for abusing players. Now AD is looking weak.

By your logic many football coaches, Joe included, would have lost their jobs over the years. Abuse is an awfully strong word to use here. Was it appropriate, no. Was it abuse, not even close.

 

[PeetzPoolBoy]

Sandy “People are PSU’s best Assets” Barbour was looking for a reason to can Pat. She now has that reason.

I’ll be eager to see who she hires as his replacement. This one will be on her Watch.

 

[Sharkies]

Fire the AD cause she won’t fire the WBB Coach. Lol.

Talk about a knee jerk reaction. Only reason you want Sandy fired is cause she is gay. Just admit it.

Kindly GFY. Literally let me know her list of 'accomplishments' that warrant a contract extension?

 

[91Joe95]

Fire the AD cause she won’t fire the WBB Coach. Lol.

Talk about a knee jerk reaction. Only reason you want Sandy fired is cause she is gay. Just admit it.

Who are all these people who don't like others simply because they are gay? I think you're full of shit on that one, and seeing how often you like to interject it I'm beginning to think not even you think your other points have merit.

 

[AWS1022]

Don't know what will happen at year's end, but....

He recognized that he made a mistake by crossing that line.
He owned up to it and apologized immediately and sincerely to all relevant parties.
His actions carried a consequence, and he is not protesting it publicly and therefore extending the issue.
The punishment fits the crime (or at least is not too light).
He and hopefully Myles Dread and the team will work through the suspension and get back to work immediately afterwards (aka they will all move on from it) and learn from it.

So, recognition - apology - consequence - move on. That should satisfy everyone and make it a non-issue from here on (unless repeated). It won't satisfy everyone. If this incident has negative ripple effects beyond this weekend and season, I'll be disappointed but not surprised. Whatever happens to Pat's coaching contract after this season should be based on merit and not this incident.

In general, imo, sincere apologies for this degree of mistake need to be accepted and put behind them. Otherwise, what is the point of apologizing and learning and growing from any mistake? We are all gonna make a good number of them.

It absolutely should be factored into the decision regarding his contract at the end of the year. It is part of his performance. It’s another negative to add in with the rest of the negatives. How he represents the school and himself is definitely part of his job performance. If the positives out weighed the negatives, then this would be a small part of any decision. But this is another negative that further tips an already unbalanced scale towards firing him.

 

[HunterPSU96]

Being honest, I see NOTHING wrong with his action... It wasn't even a shove.. just a push as in a "Lets ****ing go man" moment...Regardless, it is too little and too late, Pat.

...But PSU is soft and we will hire an even softer head coach next go around. I'm done "climbing."

 

[Relayer]

Seth Lundy better rethink his commitment right now. He should want no part of this train wreck.

 

[millerjs32]

Being honest, I see NOTHING wrong with his action... It wasn't even a shove.. just a push as in a "Lets ****ing go man" moment...Regardless, it is too little and too late, Pat.

...But PSU is soft and we will hire an even softer head coach next go around. I'm done "climbing."

+10000000

 

[NittanyOpp]

Even the dolts who righteously defended him 2-3 years ago have went silent.

That should tell you all you need to know. Bottom line is he seems like a good dude despite the shove of Dread, he just hasn't gotten to a tournament with more talent than any other coach has had at Penn St. That team last year had a great shot at a Sweet 16. It's the same old story year after year. I don't even bother watching anymore. He will win a couple games at home against good teams to tease people, maybe steal one on the road but that's about it.

 

[81b&w]

 

[JoeDidntKnow]

All you people want Pat gone. What about Coach Washington? she has been here 12 years and the last several years the team has sucked. She is never disciplined when she screams at here players, and she does. It is audible to fans in sections 106 and 107. So it amazes me that Sandy, who sits several feet away can’t here. Washington should have been gone last year.

No one, including Sandy, gives a shit about women's hoops

 

[JoeDidntKnow]

Fire the AD cause she won’t fire the WBB Coach. Lol.

Talk about a knee jerk reaction. Only reason you want Sandy fired is cause she is gay. Just admit it.

Sandy is gay? No effing way! And I thought it was just incompetence

 

[Art]

No one, including Sandy, gives a shit about women's hoops

Don't think that sandy cares about men's hoops, either.

 

[DingerzForDaze]

The snowflake society caused the suspension, not the actual incident

Yes, society sets social norms and mores, which influence what is deemed suspension-worthy. And some will think those social norms and mores will be out of touch with their own personal values. Just like some may consider a suspension for punching a significant other the result of a "snowflake society," because, you know, violence is normal and you need to put a woman in her place every now and then, others may consider suspending a coach for flipping out on a player and shoving him to be the result of a "snowflake society," because dudes just have to get tough, and we push each other around all the time, and he probably deserved worse, like we used to get when we were kids. We all have to try to reconcile our own personal moral structure with that of society on a case-by-case basis.

 

[Art]

Yes, society sets social norms and mores, which influence what is deemed suspension-worthy. And some will think those social norms and mores will be out of touch with their own personal values. Just like some may consider a suspension for punching a significant other the result of a "snowflake society," because, you know, violence is normal and you need to put a woman in her place every now and then, others may consider suspending a coach for flipping out on a player and shoving him to be the result of a "snowflake society," because dudes just have to get tough, and we push each other around all the time, and he probably deserved worse, like we used to get when we were kids. We all have to try to reconcile our own personal moral structure with that of society on a case-by-case basis.

Do you ghostwrite for Barbour?

 

[GregInPitt]

I agree Washington should be gone based on team performance. That said, I have no problem with her, or any other coach, yelling at a player.

Yep, just have a problem with her standing clueless with her arms folded watching her team play stupid. And that is what she seems to be doing every time I tuned in, so I don't tune in. Not many care because they are tired of teams that don't show basic basketball skills and strategies.

 

[canuckhal]

Being honest, I see NOTHING wrong with his action... It wasn't even a shove.. just a push as in a "Lets ****ing go man" moment...Regardless, it is too little and too late, Pat.

...But PSU is soft and we will hire an even softer head coach next go around. I'm done "climbing."

So is Chambers apparently.

 

[Nit16]

Don't know what will happen at year's end, but....

He recognized that he made a mistake by crossing that line.
He owned up to it and apologized immediately and sincerely to all relevant parties.
His actions carried a consequence, and he is not protesting it publicly and therefore extending the issue.
The punishment fits the crime (or at least is not too light).
He and hopefully Myles Dread and the team will work through the suspension and get back to work immediately afterwards (aka they will all move on from it) and learn from it.

So, recognition - apology - consequence - move on. That should satisfy everyone and make it a non-issue from here on (unless repeated). It won't satisfy everyone. If this incident has negative ripple effects beyond this weekend and season, I'll be disappointed but not surprised. Whatever happens to Pat's coaching contract after this season should be based on merit and not this incident.

In general, imo, sincere apologies for this degree of mistake need to be accepted and put behind. Otherwise, what is the point of apologizing and learning and growing from any mistake? We are all gonna make a good number of them.

Did he apologize for being such a poor coach on gamedays?

 

[Nit16]

Pat isn't getting it done. Team looks lost and doesn't have a clue at times. Poor coaching of these young men. Talent is there but reaching it and developing it hasn't happened. Both basketball programs are a total disaster. Fans have given up years ago. Jordan center is empty so bad they had to put up black curtains to make it look less empty. Sad state. How many years do you give a coach to turn a program in the right direction? Its been long enough.

Where are all the clowns that blindly backed this guy because of a few recruits in Philly decided to come to Penn State.

 

[Nit16]

All you people want Pat gone. What about Coach Washington? she has been here 12 years and the last several years the team has sucked. She is never disciplined when she screams at here players, and she does. It is audible to fans in sections 106 and 107. So it amazes me that Sandy, who sits several feet away can’t here. Washington should have been gone last year.

Please! Girls hoops. Who cares. Get back on thread subject.

 

[Nit16]

No the teams is not “underachieving “. They are achieving exactly what they should. It’s not a great team. We won the nit last year. We are not a basketball school and have a hard time getting kids to play in a multipurpose stadium. He’s doing the best that can be done. Sorry!!

Pathetic! Scary too. You know.......people that think like you.