Change in QB

[uscgPSU]

Honest question, when do we make the switch at the QB? It is clear after today that CH is not meant for this offense either because the line is breaking down and he can't move or he is just not a good fit for this offense. The regression he has made up to this point is scary and as a fan I am not comfortable with it. If you were the head coach, when would you make the switch. My fear is that If we make the switch it affects CH mentally and he shuts it down. I just don't see the passion and the "student of the game" mentality in him. After he throws a pick, fumbles, or goes three-and-out, I don't see hum hustling off the field to see what he did wrong. That is just the read I have on CH, but that is just me. I am ready to see McSorely in there and see what he can do with his legs when the line/play breaks down.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

If CH gets keeps getting hit the way he was today, the switch will be made sooner as opposed to later because #14 will be on a stretcher.

 

[81b&w]

Until this line "gels". maybe McSorley gives us the best chance of winning? Hack is entirely too slow, period. 10pts and 10 sacks, I have to say at least half the sacks were because Hack held it too long

 

[fairgambit]

Until this line "gels". maybe McSorley gives us the best chance of winning? Hack is entirely too slow, period. 10pts and 10 sacks, I have to say at least half the sacks were because Hack held it too long

I agree. For a kid with pro dreams, he seems to lack that clock that every good QB has in his head that tells you when to get rid of the ball.

 

[owlsper]

lol

 

[psu00]

Honest question, when do we make the switch at the QB? It is clear after today that CH is not meant for this offense either because the line is breaking down and he can't move or he is just not a good fit for this offense. The regression he has made up to this point is scary and as a fan I am not comfortable with it. If you were the head coach, when would you make the switch. My fear is that If we make the switch it affects CH mentally and he shuts it down. I just don't see the passion and the "student of the game" mentality in him. After he throws a pick, fumbles, or goes three-and-out, I don't see hum hustling off the field to see what he did wrong. That is just the read I have on CH, but that is just me. I am ready to see McSorely in there and see what he can do with his legs when the line/play breaks down.

You maybe right. I agree about Hack's attitude- I've thought the same thing for 2 years now. Maybe sitting his backside on the bench for 2-3 series may actually help him to get focussed and fight. Right now it seems like he knows the job is his no matter what. Maybe having a little pressure from someone looking over his shoulder gets his head into the game more?

 

[blion72]

how would a QB oriented coach like Steve Spurrier handle this situation?

 

[JayWye]

Honest question, when do we make the switch at the QB? It is clear after today that CH is not meant for this offense either because the line is breaking down and he can't move or he is just not a good fit for this offense. The regression he has made up to this point is scary and as a fan I am not comfortable with it. If you were the head coach, when would you make the switch. My fear is that If we make the switch it affects CH mentally and he shuts it down. I just don't see the passion and the "student of the game" mentality in him. After he throws a pick, fumbles, or goes three-and-out, I don't see hum hustling off the field to see what he did wrong. That is just the read I have on CH, but that is just me. I am ready to see McSorely in there and see what he can do with his legs when the line/play breaks down.

Partially agree...might be worth a try to sit Hack for a spell when things go south...assuming McSorley is ready. See how he does.

 

[psu00]

how would a QB oriented coach like Steve Spurrier handle this situation?

Spurrier would have pulled him at least 3x in a game like this. . Not sure that's the best approach but have no doubt- Spurrier would have no problem telling him he was playing horribly and holding him to account.

 

[81b&w]

I'm soo tired of hearing that Hack can "make all the throws". I think he made one good throw yesterday. The Temple QB threw some nice passes

 

[BadCompany1]

I'm soo tired of hearing that Hack can "make all the throws". I think he made one good throw yesterday. The Temple QB threw some nice passes

Which thow are you referring to? I saw 0 good throws from Hack.

 

[ILLINOISLION]

The sad thing is - he hasn't been the best QB on the field in close to or more than half the games he's started.

I mentioned it in the spring and it was mentioned again yesterday.....he's becoming the college equivalent of Da' Bears' Jay Cutler.

 

[PSUriseANDfire]

If CH gets keeps getting hit the way he was today, the switch will be made sooner as opposed to later because #14 will be on a stretcher.

Herb Hand needs to up his game. Hack went down a few times when it was a little bit his own issue, but I think it stems from the fact that the line just is not there. It's horrifying.

 

[Bushwood CC]

Which thow are you referring to? I saw 0 good throws from Hack.

He threw a nice intermediate crossing pass hitting the player on the numbers for a 1st Down on a 3rd-&-long. The announcer said - "I think that might be Hackenberg's best pass of the day" on the throw (they had may comments about his inconsistency and inaccuracy several times prior to the throw - it was midway through the 2nd Qtr if I remember correctly).

 

[PSUriseANDfire]

He threw a nice intermediate crossing pass hitting the player on the numbers for a 1st Down on a 3rd-&-long. The announcer said - "I think that might be Hackenberg's best pass of the day" on the throw (they had may comments about his inconsistency and inaccuracy several times prior to the throw - it was midway through the 2nd Qtr if I remember correctly).

Yeah that was a great throw. You have the timing right also I am pretty sure.

 

[81b&w]

yea that was the one I was referring to, the only one

 

[Marshall30]

I'm afraid Hack has hit the sack.

 

[WeR0206]

yea that was the one I was referring to, the only one

It's still beyond me why Hack, as talented as he is, constantly throws short passes into the feet of his receivers or throws it ten yards over their head. When he does throw a good ball its nice but he's way too inconsistent. His inconsistency was pointed out by the TV commentators numerous times and they were right on the money IMO.

 

[81b&w]

His other good pass was right on the numbers, too bad it was a Temple defender

 

[junior1]

Until this line "gels". maybe McSorley gives us the best chance of winning? Hack is entirely too slow, period. 10pts and 10 sacks, I have to say at least half the sacks were because Hack held it too long

remember to avoid the intentional grounding call the QB has to be outside the tackle box. Based on how the blitzes were coming and how our oline was collapsing, I'm not certain that Hack could have gotten beyond the tackle box to throw the ball away.

 

[Bushwood CC]

remember to avoid the intentional grounding call the QB has to be outside the tackle box. Based on how the blitzes were coming and how our oline was collapsing, I'm not certain that Hack could have gotten beyond the tackle box to throw the ball away.

Not true if he throws it OB in the vicinity of a receiver -- maybe he could rollout one of his patented overthrows on a blitz where it would actually save us yardage via avoiding the blitz by throwing it a mile of the receivers head like he does when he has all the time in the world.

 

[Peetz Pool Boy]

I agree. For a kid with pro dreams, he seems to lack that clock that every good QB has in his head that tells you when to get rid of the ball.

He misses that kind of coach who used to count the time from snap in practice, without the aid of a stopwatch, and yell "get rid of it" or "throw it away for another day" after a certain number of seconds elapsed. Ask Blackledge, Schaffer....

Hack doesn't throw it away because B'OB to him not to do so because (a) something is going to be open "late" and (b) he came from a place where OL's could hold off the rushD for 2 secs longer than most teams (that would be 5 seconds longer than a Chef Herb OL)

 

[GregInPitt]

remember to avoid the intentional grounding call the QB has to be outside the tackle box. Based on how the blitzes were coming and how our oline was collapsing, I'm not certain that Hack could have gotten beyond the tackle box to throw the ball away.

A good QB knows where his receivers are and either throws it over the head of a receiver near the sideline or throws it at the feet of a receiver over the middle, and does not get flagged. CH never once, with all the pressure, threw the ball away.

 

[Peetz Pool Boy]

A good QB knows where his receivers are and either throws it over the head of a receiver near the sideline or throws it at the feet of a receiver over the middle, and does not get flagged. CH never once, with all the pressure, threw the ball away.

Actually he did, you just didn't notice. Perhaps you had less time to post your reply than CH had to observe that multiple rushers breaking through the chef Herb ole OL.

 

[justnitts]

I'm 5'6", 30 lbs overweight, and 55 years old. I complete 3 passes that Hackenburg missed badly yesterday. Some of his poor play is simply inexcusable. Much like with Bolden, I have never understood the hype. He lacks intangibles, I don't care if he can throw the ball 50 yards on a rope, a QB has to be much, much more.

 

[MahaloT]

I'm 5'6", 30 lbs overweight, and 55 years old. I complete 3 passes that Hackenburg missed badly yesterday. Some of his poor play is simply inexcusable. Much like with Bolden, I have never understood the hype. He lacks intangibles, I don't care if he can throw the ball 50 yards on a rope, a QB has to be much, much more.

I'm sorry, but you people are unreal! Until the running game is established, teams continue to play press coverage and there is nowhere to throw the ball..Give me a break..a two-man rush beat six supposed blockers...scheme something that this OL can make work!