Charles Barkley calls Parsons a "clown" and comments that the "inmates are running the aslyum"

[GreggK]

This is on Herbies new podcast.

He went on to say that Meyer should immediately pull his and the other guys scholly. He went on to say that this type of attitude is ruining sports in general. Herbie went on to say that this type of thing should never be said and very much agreed with Barkley that the scholly should be pulled.

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=20694218

Now, part of me thinks that in the scheme of life, this stuff is little. The kid isn't doing drugs, the kid isnt in a gang, the kid isn't beating people up. However, this sort of ego can be toxic if it isn't controlled. I worry his dad let it get out of control and it isn't going to end well.

I have been a defender of Parsons for awhile because of the fact that the things he has done are not destructive in a typical sense. HOWEVER, his unchecked ego could destroy a team, and so now I gotta say, we don't need him here.

 

[NC2017]

This is on Herbies new podcast.

He went on to say that Meyer should immediately pull his and the other guys scholly. He went on to say that this type of attitude is ruining sports in general. Herbie went on to say that this type of thing should never be said and very much agreed with Barkley that the scholly should be pulled.

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=20694218

Now, part of me thinks that in the scheme of life, this stuff is little. The kid isn't doing drugs, the kid isnt in a gang, the kid isn't beating people up. However, this sort of ego can be toxic if it isn't controlled. I worry his dad let it get out of control and it isn't going to end well.

I have been a defender of Parsons for awhile because of the fact that the things he has done are not destructive in a typical sense. HOWEVER, his unchecked ego could destroy a team, and so now I gotta say, we don't need him here.

If Parsons was a 3* would you feel the same? Would Parsons act the same?

 

[BisbeeMike]

Meyer is not pulling the offer on Parsons, and is not pulling the offer of Carmen either: Urban Meyer is a WIN AT ALL COST coach. Nothing comes before winning. Nothing.

 

[broey1]

The inmates were running the institution at Florida. Is anybody really surprised they are in short order of doing the same thing at OSU? What's the big deal? Meyer can pull both offers and go grab two more 5* players at the same position in this year's or next year's class.

 

[JWB389]

Meyer is not pulling the offer on Parsons, and is not pulling the offer of Carmen either: Urban Meyer is a WIN AT ALL COST coach. Nothing comes before winning. Nothing.

Was going to say something similar. There is a reason why Meyer wins championships and pulling 'ships from 5 stars ain't one of them.

 

[Madsol]

Meyer is not pulling the offer on Parsons, and is not pulling the offer of Carmen either: Urban Meyer is a WIN AT ALL COST coach. Nothing comes before winning. Nothing.

That may be case, but even "win at all cost" coaches can recognize that a particular personality could be very damaging to a locker room and lead to less wins. I don't think a win at all cost coach would necessarily overlook a potential locker room cancer. They might be more willing than some to roll the dice but at the end of the day, what happens in the locker room can impact wins and losses.

 

[PennState_one]

If Parsons was a 3* would you feel the same? Would Parsons act the same?

Lol you definitely wouldn't think he'd be acting like this as a 3 star. Oh well...

 

[GreggK]

If Parsons was a 3* would you feel the same? Would Parsons act the same?

Not getting what you mean. I absolutely would feel the same and most likely would have given him much less slack if he was a 3*

I also happen to think the kid would be a little bit more grounded if he was a 3*. Some of the kids can't handle the hype. I wish someone could really sit down with them and explain how small their chances are of ever making the NFL. As far as Parson's knows, there was never anyone else like him ever to come out of PA. We of course know that there is one of him every few years and unfortunately, we have watched about half of them crash and burn. Names like Kendra, Jones, Spence, and many more nationally.

 

[razpsu]

You know the first play that parsons screws up that urban will pull him and say something.

Now what do you think he will say?

 

[Limestoner]

The irony here is I was wondering how Parsons ended up on the set of college game day? I couldn't help but think Meyer pulled some strings with Herbstreit about getting him on the set to put some icing on the cake of his visit.

 

[GreggK]

Was going to say something similar. There is a reason why Meyer wins championships and pulling 'ships from 5 stars ain't one of them.

My all accounts, he has pulled the offer. Or at least backed away very quickly. Just this past weekend, Wiltfong over on 247 changed his crystal ball from OSU to Nebraska right after the visit. It was insinuated from insiders that Meyer was NOT happy with the comments and backed away. The same insiders said PSU backed away about two months ago. Now, after that, Parsons just decides to make an unscheduled trip to PSU for a Georgia State game? I think he see's his top two schools have now backed away and he wants to see where things stand. Apparently PSU is willing to listen but are skeptical

I of course am not an insider but that is what people are saying on other boards.

 

[ClarkstonMark]

Meyer is not pulling the offer on Parsons, and is not pulling the offer of Carmen either: Urban Meyer is a WIN AT ALL COST coach. Nothing comes before winning. Nothing.

Pretty sure you are wrong.

 

[NITTANYJGK]

I think both CJF and Meyer should pull Parson's offer. He really doesn't want to go anywhere other than OSU or PSU. Then let him try to crawl back into the good graces of both schools. It would be a good lifes lesson for this ego driven hot dog, especially if neither school will re-offer him.

Parsons is a kid I'd rather play AGAINST than play WITH.

 

[LionJim]

My all accounts, he has pulled the offer. Or at least backed away very quickly.

I'm not sure I understand the distinction you're trying to make.

 

[ClarkstonMark]

I'm not sure I understand the distinction you're trying to make.

I would say pulling an offer involves communicating that clearly; backing away means slow-playing/not communicating anymore.

 

[GreggK]

I'm not sure I understand the distinction you're trying to make.

I don't know what was said, but it seems that he either pulled the scholarship or said it isn't committable at this time.
Wiltfong insinuated it was the former.

 

[LionJim]

I don't know what was said, but it seems that he either pulled the scholarship or said it isn't committable at this time.
Wiltfong insinuated it was the former.

Wow. Appreciate your taking the time. I guess we'll soon find out the details.

 

[GreggK]

Wow. Appreciate your taking the time. I guess we'll soon find out the details.

PSU insiders insinuated that we are willing to listen if the kid wants to talk.
But, that the staff is very skeptical about him. I don't normally post stuff like this because I always think about "what if the recruit" see's this etc.
I hope the kid see's what people are saying about him and realizes what a fool he has been. Youth is a disease that can be cured.

 

[WPB_lion]

I'm not sure I understand the distinction you're trying to make.

I think going into the weekend, Ohio State considered Parsons #1 among Oweh, Smith, and Parsons. After the weekend, they may have told him he dropped to #3 among those recruits. Just a total guess.

 

[WDLion]

There ought to be a required Intelligence Test, before anyone was able to converse on TWITTER.
Anyone who's test registers at even a minimal base level of intellectual ability, should be banned.

Allow TWITTER - "Lowering the Level of Social Intelligence Since 2006" - to remain as the playpen for the illiterate and the terminally stupid. 90% of everything that has ever been written there is asinine. When the topics are Sports or Politics, the ratio of dimwits rises to 99.99%

Working one's self into a tizzy over stupidity emanating from TWITTER, is about as reasonable as becoming enraged that your pet cat isn't an accomplished saxophone player. "Intelligent" just isn't compatible with 140 characters.

Twitter would be no more. That would be a good thing.

 

[Cletus11]

this is the same kid that grew up watching Kardashian reality TV. A family with no discernible positive quality's but being loudmouthed and good looking. And they are multi-millionaires. The Ball family in the news every day, getting own TV show. I hate it as much as anybody, but the reality is these kids do see many people in reality TV making millions of dollars by doing nothing other than being as loud and obnoxious as possible. 9(% of reality TV 'star's have no talent, they were just lucky enough to be borne into a family name or got picked out of hat to be on a TV show and whammo...they make millions by just trying to push as many buttons as possible.

 

[acg116]

This is on Herbies new podcast.

He went on to say that Meyer should immediately pull his and the other guys scholly. He went on to say that this type of attitude is ruining sports in general. Herbie went on to say that this type of thing should never be said and very much agreed with Barkley that the scholly should be pulled.

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=20694218

Now, part of me thinks that in the scheme of life, this stuff is little. The kid isn't doing drugs, the kid isnt in a gang, the kid isn't beating people up. However, this sort of ego can be toxic if it isn't controlled. I worry his dad let it get out of control and it isn't going to end well.

I have been a defender of Parsons for awhile because of the fact that the things he has done are not destructive in a typical sense. HOWEVER, his unchecked ego could destroy a team, and so now I gotta say, we don't need him here.

cool story herbie...too bad you fed the beast by allowing a high schooler on stage with you during gameday.

 

[BisbeeMike]

I'm not sure I understand the distinction you're trying to make.

Neither do I. To me, you either pull the offer or you do not pull the offer. Meyer isn't pulling the offer. Now, the kid MIGHT go to Nebraska, but Meyer is not pulling the offer. Wiltfong has the kid CB'd to the Huskers, so I am prone to go with that call right now, but Meyer isn't pulling anything. Meyer is about winning.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

My all accounts, he has pulled the offer. Or at least backed away very quickly. Just this past weekend, Wiltfong over on 247 changed his crystal ball from OSU to Nebraska right after the visit. It was insinuated from insiders that Meyer was NOT happy with the comments and backed away. The same insiders said PSU backed away about two months ago. Now, after that, Parsons just decides to make an unscheduled trip to PSU for a Georgia State game? I think he see's his top two schools have now backed away and he wants to see where things stand. Apparently PSU is willing to listen but are skeptical

I of course am not an insider but that is what people are saying on other boards.

I think this makes sense. PSU and OSU are in great positions with or without Parsons. I'm sure he can visit PSU anytime he wants - the staff are probably not going to mind, especially since his BFF is a committed recruit. You'd love to see a light go off in Parsons head but hasn't happened yet. It seems like there is a solid support system in place and Franklin has great control over his locker room. Will Parsons 'bend the knee' so to speak? If so, and if you think you can get him to come around, I think you take him if you can.

Having said that, the twitter thing is maybe the least big deal I've ever seen. Someone asked him on twitter about a QB change and he said he would make one namedropping his friend who is an OSU player. BFD. It's not the best move if you plan on going to OSU, but hey, everyone else is saying the same thing. Kid could learn a thing or two about tact - that's for sure.

 

[Agoodnap]

Neither do I. To me, you either pull the offer or you do not pull the offer. Meyer isn't pulling the offer. Now, the kid MIGHT go to Nebraska, but Meyer is not pulling the offer. Wiltfong has the kid CB'd to the Huskers, so I am prone to go with that call right now, but Meyer isn't pulling anything. Meyer is about winning.

Guys like Parsons will cause you to lose, which UM doesn't want to do. Have you ever been around guys like this? UM has a locker full of high 4 and 5 star players and one or two more or less won't make a difference.

I assume you haven't played a team sport.

 

[BisbeeMike]

I could install Mark Mangino at quarterback for Ohio State for the next three weeks and they would still win the next 3 games. The Barrett thing is a joke, he's not being benched and frankly it won't matter until we roll into Columbus in late October.

 

[Ceasar]

IMHO the inmates run the asylum everywhere, not just at OSU. I illustrate the point by asking, can we think of one player, anywhere, who had his offer pulled for anything other than criminal conduct? I will bet the instances are few and far between.
To illustrate further, last year Parsons was able to transfer, in mid-season, from CD to Hbg. The PIAA allowed that. Some teams (2 IIRC) had to play against Parsons twice, once when he was at CD and once at Hbg. Totally unfair.
The days of the super stars being held to the same rules as everyone else are over.

 

[GreggK]

I think this makes sense. PSU and OSU are in great positions with or without Parsons. I'm sure he can visit PSU anytime he wants - the staff are probably not going to mind, especially since his BFF is a committed recruit. You'd love to see a light go off in Parsons head but hasn't happened yet. It seems like there is a solid support system in place and Franklin has great control over his locker room. Will Parsons 'bend the knee' so to speak? If so, and if you think you can get him to come around, I think you take him if you can.
Having said that, the twitter thing is maybe the least big deal I've ever seen. Someone asked him on twitter about a QB change and he said he would make one namedropping his friend who is an OSU player. BFD. It's not the best move if you plan on going to OSU, but hey, everyone else is saying the same thing. Kid could learn a thing or two about tact - that's for sure.

Wiltfong also said if he had to call it right now, he would call Tyreke Smith to PSU, Oweh to OSU, Parsons to Nebraska. Which I would happily take!

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

Meyer is not pulling the offer on Parsons, and is not pulling the offer of Carmen either: Urban Meyer is a WIN AT ALL COST coach. Nothing comes before winning. Nothing.

If this kid ends up at tosu, guarantee that Herbie forgives/forgets this entire fiasco. Actually, he won't forget it, but rather will prop up Meyer for taking in a troubled kid and turning him around...the ultimate second chance made good story for St. Urban.

 

[MilesBarkley]

and to think this pic was only hours prior...

 

[MilesBarkley]

also can someone link to a few free OSU message boards? Have a 3 hour layover in the airport this afternoon and need some humorous reading material to keep me busy.

 

[4rosco]

and to think this pic was only hours prior...

And ESPN will probably have him on their show for signing day

 

[AvgPennStateFan]

If this kid ends up at tosu, guarantee that Herbie forgives/forgets this entire fiasco. Actually, he won't forget it, but rather will prop up Meyer for taking in a troubled kid and turning him around...the ultimate second chance made good story for St. Urban.

For sure... Herbie is in the tank for Meyer, as is Wiltfong. He (Meyer) may have reached out to both to say 'we need to teach this kid a lesson' while continuing to pursue him

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

and to think this pic was only hours prior...

Honestly, could you imagine Blackledge blatantly slurping a prospect like this (and I guarantee that when the cameras are off, Herbie's actively recruiting him/others to tosu)??

Kirk needs to show some dignity/class.

 

[jferretti]

Honestly, could you imagine Blackledge blatantly slurping a prospect like this (and I guarantee that when the cameras are off, Herbie's actively recruiting him/others to tosu)??

Kirk needs to show some dignity/class.

I would expert there to be a contract provision or two about such shameless mining for his alma mater but of course it is ESPN.

 

[christoph]

Having followed recruiting somewhat since the 1990's it's pretty obvious this kid would not be a good fit (assuming we are correct about "who" he is). When you offend the football factory at OSU, you are really down to a few schools as possible destinations. They are in the SEC

 

[emrtmakesshiteup]

Indecision aside, as that is pretty normal, I don't understand all of the angst here! Didn't another recruit tweet "change QB" first? If so, just a kid wanting to fit in. More relevant, however, especially since he did apologize, you never said something to your wife and then said to yourself, "I can't believe I just said that!"???

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

Indecision aside, as that is pretty normal, I don't understand all of the angst here! Didn't another recruit tweet "change QB" first? If so, just a kid wanting to fit in. More relevant, however, especially since he did apologize, you never said something to your wife and then said to yourself, "I can't believe I just said that!"???

Fair point...these are just kids after all, typically deserving of a broader learning curve.

That said, question - do you want to bring on a kid who comes to campus already on his second (third...fourth...) chance? Not claiming to know the answer, but I do believe there are some very successful coaches out there who would understandably take a pass.

 

[GreggK]

Indecision aside, as that is pretty normal, I don't understand all of the angst here! Didn't another recruit tweet "change QB" first? If so, just a kid wanting to fit in. More relevant, however, especially since he did apologize, you never said something to your wife and then said to yourself, "I can't believe I just said that!"???

Actually the other kid is worse. He said:


Now, obviously Dabo or Clay don't give a damn what the kid thinks about OSU's QB situation, however I think he meant about THEIR QB situation. And I would bet money they would have a problem with some dime a dozen HS punk giving his opinion of their QB situation in a publicly disrespectful way.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Actually the other kid is worse. He said:

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Now, obviously Dabo or Clay don't give a damn what the kid thinks about OSU's QB situation, however I think he meant about THEIR QB situation. And I would bet money they would have a problem with some dime a dozen HS punk giving his opinion of their QB situation in a publicly disrespectful way.

This means 'When I'm playing for Clemson or USC it's because you guys blew it.'