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Coaches Rankings #2
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The Berge ranking seems generous given he’s not been competing outside the room.
Mayhaps get Buckeye Joey on Fri night after a long day
Yanni is likely going to win out, now his best wins are Eierman and Alber, while Lee has Joey and no other top 10 wins, but I wouldn't sleep on Lee here if he gets Yanni on Friday night if hes the 4 or 5. I know they have Pomrinca and Shoop as common opponents off of my head and the results are basically a wash from a transitive property stand point, but Yanni is banged up and I assume with Nick having the tank he has he would rather get him at the end of two competition filled days on Friday night vs Saturday night when he can rest all day. Plus he likely avoids Eierman who i do not think he matches up well with and he knows he can take Joey under the bright lights now.
The one weight class that appears will have the lowest automatic allocation slots for the Big Ten is 197.
The coaches must have gotten bored at HWT with Stoll at 10 behind Jennings and Hemida. Wouldn’t know why.
I think our guy's probably safe.....
It would be hard to slot him much lower when he has wins in 2019 over the guys ranked 13th and 14th.
Agree. Everything will shake out by the time they weigh in Thursday of nationals. 99% of guys get the seed they earn for good or bad.
Question for the board, when they announce allocations it looks like they slot as follows:
70% win, 30 CR, 30 RPI
71% win, 29 CR, 29 RPI, etc. all the way up to if they need it (which they never will) 80%, 20 CR, 20 RPI
Does anybody know if that is consistent across the board or do they have different standards for each weight? I know they have it high enough so that no more than 29 get in at any particular weight.
Below are the two charts (which don't copy well) based off the allocations of 72% win, 28 CR, 28 RPI vs. 73% win, 27 CR, 27 RPI
It looks like they have to go up to 73% to get 141 and 184 at 29 qualifiers but that leaves 149 for example with only 24 qualifiers.
Note: These winning percentages are based off of wrestlestat and I didn't go in and check each kid for matches that would not count.
72%/28 125 133 141 149 157 165 174 184 197 285 Total
ACC 2 5 5 3 4 4 3 5 4 2 37
Big 12 6 5 6 7 1 6 5 6 7 5 54
Big Ten 9 8 9 6 9 7 7 7 5 8 75
EIWA 4 4 4 3 4 5 4 7 5 2 42
EWL 1 1 1 1 1 3 1 1 1 2 13
MAC 3 3 4 1 4 1 2 2 1 3 24
PAC 12 2 2 1 3 3 1 1 1 2 2 18
SoCon 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 13
28 29 31 26 27 28 25 30 27 25 276
73%/27 7 125 133 141 149 157 165 174 184 197 285 Total
ACC 2 4 4 3 3 4 3 5 4 2 34
Big 12 6 5 6 6 1 6 5 6 7 5 53
Big Ten 9 8 9 6 9 7 7 7 5 8 75
EIWA 4 4 3 3 4 4 4 7 5 2 40
EWL 1 1 1 1 1 3 1 1 1 2 13
MAC 3 3 4 1 4 1 2 1 1 3 23
PAC 12 2 2 1 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 14
SoCon 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 1 12
28 28 29 24 25 27 25 29 25 24 264
70% win, 30 CR, 30 RPI
71% win, 29 CR, 29 RPI, etc. all the way up to if they need it (which they never will) 80%, 20 CR, 20 RPI
Does anybody know if that is consistent across the board or do they have different standards for each weight? I know they have it high enough so that no more than 29 get in at any particular weight.
Below are the two charts (which don't copy well) based off the allocations of 72% win, 28 CR, 28 RPI vs. 73% win, 27 CR, 27 RPI
It looks like they have to go up to 73% to get 141 and 184 at 29 qualifiers but that leaves 149 for example with only 24 qualifiers.
Note: These winning percentages are based off of wrestlestat and I didn't go in and check each kid for matches that would not count.
72%/28 125 133 141 149 157 165 174 184 197 285 Total
ACC 2 5 5 3 4 4 3 5 4 2 37
Big 12 6 5 6 7 1 6 5 6 7 5 54
Big Ten 9 8 9 6 9 7 7 7 5 8 75
EIWA 4 4 4 3 4 5 4 7 5 2 42
EWL 1 1 1 1 1 3 1 1 1 2 13
MAC 3 3 4 1 4 1 2 2 1 3 24
PAC 12 2 2 1 3 3 1 1 1 2 2 18
SoCon 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 13
28 29 31 26 27 28 25 30 27 25 276
73%/27 7 125 133 141 149 157 165 174 184 197 285 Total
ACC 2 4 4 3 3 4 3 5 4 2 34
Big 12 6 5 6 6 1 6 5 6 7 5 53
Big Ten 9 8 9 6 9 7 7 7 5 8 75
EIWA 4 4 3 3 4 4 4 7 5 2 40
EWL 1 1 1 1 1 3 1 1 1 2 13
MAC 3 3 4 1 4 1 2 1 1 3 23
PAC 12 2 2 1 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 14
SoCon 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 1 12
28 28 29 24 25 27 25 29 25 24 264
Surprised the coaches didn’t listen to FRL podcast and dump Cenzo to #3.
Keep an eye on that Nolf kid, he’s got a chance to pull an upset.
Definitely okay with that... it would be nice for Bo not to have a guaranteed bye.
Based off of the information today. Here is where the top guys in the Big 10 stand. I am going to guess there will be 81 bids to the conference. That would be one more than last year. Obviously things can change but I would think there should not be a ton of movement since about 90% of the season has been wrestled.
The numbers are coaches rank - RPI - winning percentage (based off of wrestle stat so they could be in a little flux depending on who kids wrestled)
125 (Guess: 9 bids)
Strong/Locked Bid
Sebastian Rivera (Northwestern) 1- 1 - .9524
Spencer Lee (Iowa) 2 - NR - .9333
Sean Russell (Minnesota) 6 – 8 - .8750
RayVon Foley (Michigan State) 7 – 4 - .9310
Travis Piotrowski (Illinois) 12 – 6 - .6316
Drew Mattin (Michigan) 13 – 5 - .7222
Zeke Moisey (Nebraska) 14 – 13 - .5556
Devin Schroder(Purdue) 17 – 17 - .6800
Probable
Malik Heinselman (Ohio State) 30 – 9 - .8000
Doubtful
Liam Cronin (Indiana) NR – 30 - .5806
133 (Guess: 8)
Strong
Stevan Micic (Michigan) 1 – NR - 1.0000
Austin DeSanto(Iowa) 3 – NR - .9333
Nick Suriano (Rutgers) 5 – 12 - .9048
Luke Pletcher (Ohio State) 6 – 3 - .8571
Ethan Lizak (Minnesota) 8 – 8 - .8462
Roman Bravo-Young (Penn State) 10 – 7 - .8889
Ben Thornton (Purdue) 20 – 9 - .7273
Dylan Duncan (Illinois) 21 – 18 - .5263
Not Likely
Garrett Pepple (Indiana) 32 – 24 - .5833
Doubtful
Anthony Tutolo (Michigan State) NR – 21 - .5926
Colin Valdiviez (Northwestern) NR – 30 - .4783
141 (Guess: 9)
Strong
Nick Lee (Penn State) 2 – 3 - .9545
Joey McKenna (Ohio State) 3 – NR - .9333
Michael Carr (Illinois) 5 – NR - .8462
Kanen Storr (Michigan) 6 – 2 - .8182
Mitch McKee (Minnesota) 8 – NR - .8235
Tristan Moran (Wisconsin) 9 – 9 - .7600
Max Murin (Iowa) 15 – NR - .7500
Chad Red (Nebraska) 24 – 13 - .6250
Probable
Nate Limmex (Purdue) 26 – 16 - .5769
Doubtful
Pete LiPari (Rutgers) NR – 17 - .5000
149 (Guess: 8)
Strong
Anthony Ashnault (Rutgers) 1 – 5 - 1.0000
Micah Jordan (Ohio State) 3 – 2 - .9500
Brady Berge (Penn State) 11 – NR - .8750
Cole Martin (Wisconsin) 12 – 19 - .6522
Pat Lugo (Iowa) 16 – 9 - .6667
Thomas Thorn (Minnesota) 21 – 26 - .6364
Probable
Alfred Bannister (Maryland) 23 – NR - 0.7059 (needs 1 more match for RPI)
Possible
Malik Amine (Michigan) 25 – NR - .6154 (Needs 5 more matches for RPI)
Shayne Oster (Northwestern) 30 – 24 - .5000 (Needs to bump up CR by like 2-3)
157
Strong (Guess: 10)
Jason Nolf (Penn State) 1 – 2 - 1.0000
Tyler Berger (Nebraska) 2 – 3 - .9091
Ryan Deakin (Northwestern) 3 – 1 - .9167
Alec Pantaleo (Michigan) 5 – NR - 0.6471 (needs one more match)
Kaleb Young (Iowa) 6 – 5 - .8235
Ke-Shawn Hayes (Ohio State) 7 – 6 - .7273
Steven Bleise (Minnesota) 9 – 4 - .7778
Eric Barone (Illinois) 10 – 17 - .6400
Griffin Parriot (Purdue) 12 – 12 - .6842
John Van Brill (Rutgers) 15 – 21 - .6154
Not likely
Jake Danishek (Indiana) 21 – 33 - .6000
Doubtful
Jake Tucker (Michigan State) NR – 32 - 0.6129
165
Strong (Guess: 7)
Vincenzo Joseph (Penn State) 1 – 1 - 1.0000
Alex Marinelli (Iowa) 2 – 4 - 1.0000
Evan Wick (Wisconsin) 3 – 2 - .9600
Isaiah White (Nebraska) 6 – 3 - .7368
Logan Massa (Michigan) 7 – 12 - .7647
Joseph Gunther (Illinois) 20 – 17 - 0.6154
Bryce Martin (Indiana) 23 – 22 - .7083
Work to do
Carson Brolsma (Minnesota) 30 – 19 - .6667
Doubtful
Kaleb Romero (Ohio State) 32 – NR - .5385 (interesting it is Romero and not Campbell reported as starter – not that Campbell would have enough matches
174 (Guess: 8)
Strong
Mark Hall (Penn State) 1 – 1 - 1.0000
Myles Amine (Michigan) 4 – NR - .8750 (needs 1 match for RPI)
Mikey Labriola (Nebraska) 9 – 7 - .8333
Devin Skatzka (Minnesota) 10 – 15 -.7500
Dylan Lydy (Purdue) 11 – 9 - 0.7600
Ethan Smith (Ohio State) 19 – NR - .7000 (needs two more matches at 174)
Probable
Jake Covaciu (Indiana) 26 – 26 - .6818
Joe Grello (Rutgers) 27 – 27 - .6316
Possible
Drew Hughes (Michigan State) 28 – 30 - .7097
Doubtful
Johnny Sebastian (Northwestern) 33 – NR - .4167
Injured
Ryan Christensen (Wisconsin) could get a bid but could also burst another bubble (would need 3 more bouts)
184 (Guess: 8)
Strong
Myles Martin (Ohio State) 1 – NR - 1.0000 (three matches for RPI)
Shakur Rasheed (Penn State) 3 – NR - 1.0000 (two matches for RPI)
Taylor Venz (Nebraska) 4 – 9 - .8095 (four matches for RPI, has it anyway with CR/%)
Emory Parker (Illinois) 6 – NR - .8571
Cash Wilke (Iowa) 13 – 3 - .8333
Cameron Caffey (Michigan State) 16 – 16 - .8929
Mason Reinheardt (Wisconsin) 23 – 13 - .6296
Right on bubble
Jelani Embree (Michigan) 28 – NR - 0.7272 (11 countable matches)
Max Lyon (Purdue) 30 – 29 - .7037
Doubtful
Nick Gravina (Rutgers) 33 – NR - .6000
Norman Conley (Indiana) NR – 26 - .5926
197
Strong (Guess: 5)
Bo Nickal (Penn State) 1 – 1 - 1.0000
Kollin Moore (Ohio State) 2 – NR - .9286 (three more matches for RPI, has enough without)
Jacob Warner (Iowa) 4 – NR - .8462 (not going to reach 17, but has enough without)
Christian Brunner (Purdue) 9 – 4 - .7273
Eric Schultz (Nebraska) 12 – 9 - .7200
Possible
Jackson Striggow (Michigan) 30 – 27 - .6111
Doubtful
Brad Wilton (Michigan State) NR – 32 - .6154
Dylan Anderson (Minnestota) NR – 25 - .6000
Andre Lee (Illinois) NR – 24 - .5769
Matt Correntti (Rutgers) NR – 21 - .5000
285 (Guess: 9)
Strong
Gable Steveson (Minnesota) 1 – 3 - 1.0000
Anthony Cassar (Penn State) 3 – 1 - .9474
Mason Parris (Michigan) 5 – 5 - .8214
Trent Hillger (Wisconsin) 6 – 4 - .8182
Conan Jennings (Northwestern) 7 – 8 - .6000
David Jensen (Nebraska) 8 – NR - .8235 (six matches against Non-DI keeping him from RPI)
Sam Stoll (Iowa) 10 – NR - .8750 (not going to get matches, won’t need them)
Chase Singletary (Ohio State) 18 – 6 - .7500
Possible
Youssif Hemida (Maryland ) 9 – NR - .6667 (needs to win last 4 for %, will not get match total)
Christian Colucci (Rutgers) 32 – 21 - .5909
Doubtful
Chase Beard (Michigan State) NR – 22 - .6000
Jacob Aven (Purdue) NR – 25 - .3600
The numbers are coaches rank - RPI - winning percentage (based off of wrestle stat so they could be in a little flux depending on who kids wrestled)
125 (Guess: 9 bids)
Strong/Locked Bid
Sebastian Rivera (Northwestern) 1- 1 - .9524
Spencer Lee (Iowa) 2 - NR - .9333
Sean Russell (Minnesota) 6 – 8 - .8750
RayVon Foley (Michigan State) 7 – 4 - .9310
Travis Piotrowski (Illinois) 12 – 6 - .6316
Drew Mattin (Michigan) 13 – 5 - .7222
Zeke Moisey (Nebraska) 14 – 13 - .5556
Devin Schroder(Purdue) 17 – 17 - .6800
Probable
Malik Heinselman (Ohio State) 30 – 9 - .8000
Doubtful
Liam Cronin (Indiana) NR – 30 - .5806
133 (Guess: 8)
Strong
Stevan Micic (Michigan) 1 – NR - 1.0000
Austin DeSanto(Iowa) 3 – NR - .9333
Nick Suriano (Rutgers) 5 – 12 - .9048
Luke Pletcher (Ohio State) 6 – 3 - .8571
Ethan Lizak (Minnesota) 8 – 8 - .8462
Roman Bravo-Young (Penn State) 10 – 7 - .8889
Ben Thornton (Purdue) 20 – 9 - .7273
Dylan Duncan (Illinois) 21 – 18 - .5263
Not Likely
Garrett Pepple (Indiana) 32 – 24 - .5833
Doubtful
Anthony Tutolo (Michigan State) NR – 21 - .5926
Colin Valdiviez (Northwestern) NR – 30 - .4783
141 (Guess: 9)
Strong
Nick Lee (Penn State) 2 – 3 - .9545
Joey McKenna (Ohio State) 3 – NR - .9333
Michael Carr (Illinois) 5 – NR - .8462
Kanen Storr (Michigan) 6 – 2 - .8182
Mitch McKee (Minnesota) 8 – NR - .8235
Tristan Moran (Wisconsin) 9 – 9 - .7600
Max Murin (Iowa) 15 – NR - .7500
Chad Red (Nebraska) 24 – 13 - .6250
Probable
Nate Limmex (Purdue) 26 – 16 - .5769
Doubtful
Pete LiPari (Rutgers) NR – 17 - .5000
149 (Guess: 8)
Strong
Anthony Ashnault (Rutgers) 1 – 5 - 1.0000
Micah Jordan (Ohio State) 3 – 2 - .9500
Brady Berge (Penn State) 11 – NR - .8750
Cole Martin (Wisconsin) 12 – 19 - .6522
Pat Lugo (Iowa) 16 – 9 - .6667
Thomas Thorn (Minnesota) 21 – 26 - .6364
Probable
Alfred Bannister (Maryland) 23 – NR - 0.7059 (needs 1 more match for RPI)
Possible
Malik Amine (Michigan) 25 – NR - .6154 (Needs 5 more matches for RPI)
Shayne Oster (Northwestern) 30 – 24 - .5000 (Needs to bump up CR by like 2-3)
157
Strong (Guess: 10)
Jason Nolf (Penn State) 1 – 2 - 1.0000
Tyler Berger (Nebraska) 2 – 3 - .9091
Ryan Deakin (Northwestern) 3 – 1 - .9167
Alec Pantaleo (Michigan) 5 – NR - 0.6471 (needs one more match)
Kaleb Young (Iowa) 6 – 5 - .8235
Ke-Shawn Hayes (Ohio State) 7 – 6 - .7273
Steven Bleise (Minnesota) 9 – 4 - .7778
Eric Barone (Illinois) 10 – 17 - .6400
Griffin Parriot (Purdue) 12 – 12 - .6842
John Van Brill (Rutgers) 15 – 21 - .6154
Not likely
Jake Danishek (Indiana) 21 – 33 - .6000
Doubtful
Jake Tucker (Michigan State) NR – 32 - 0.6129
165
Strong (Guess: 7)
Vincenzo Joseph (Penn State) 1 – 1 - 1.0000
Alex Marinelli (Iowa) 2 – 4 - 1.0000
Evan Wick (Wisconsin) 3 – 2 - .9600
Isaiah White (Nebraska) 6 – 3 - .7368
Logan Massa (Michigan) 7 – 12 - .7647
Joseph Gunther (Illinois) 20 – 17 - 0.6154
Bryce Martin (Indiana) 23 – 22 - .7083
Work to do
Carson Brolsma (Minnesota) 30 – 19 - .6667
Doubtful
Kaleb Romero (Ohio State) 32 – NR - .5385 (interesting it is Romero and not Campbell reported as starter – not that Campbell would have enough matches
174 (Guess: 8)
Strong
Mark Hall (Penn State) 1 – 1 - 1.0000
Myles Amine (Michigan) 4 – NR - .8750 (needs 1 match for RPI)
Mikey Labriola (Nebraska) 9 – 7 - .8333
Devin Skatzka (Minnesota) 10 – 15 -.7500
Dylan Lydy (Purdue) 11 – 9 - 0.7600
Ethan Smith (Ohio State) 19 – NR - .7000 (needs two more matches at 174)
Probable
Jake Covaciu (Indiana) 26 – 26 - .6818
Joe Grello (Rutgers) 27 – 27 - .6316
Possible
Drew Hughes (Michigan State) 28 – 30 - .7097
Doubtful
Johnny Sebastian (Northwestern) 33 – NR - .4167
Injured
Ryan Christensen (Wisconsin) could get a bid but could also burst another bubble (would need 3 more bouts)
184 (Guess: 8)
Strong
Myles Martin (Ohio State) 1 – NR - 1.0000 (three matches for RPI)
Shakur Rasheed (Penn State) 3 – NR - 1.0000 (two matches for RPI)
Taylor Venz (Nebraska) 4 – 9 - .8095 (four matches for RPI, has it anyway with CR/%)
Emory Parker (Illinois) 6 – NR - .8571
Cash Wilke (Iowa) 13 – 3 - .8333
Cameron Caffey (Michigan State) 16 – 16 - .8929
Mason Reinheardt (Wisconsin) 23 – 13 - .6296
Right on bubble
Jelani Embree (Michigan) 28 – NR - 0.7272 (11 countable matches)
Max Lyon (Purdue) 30 – 29 - .7037
Doubtful
Nick Gravina (Rutgers) 33 – NR - .6000
Norman Conley (Indiana) NR – 26 - .5926
197
Strong (Guess: 5)
Bo Nickal (Penn State) 1 – 1 - 1.0000
Kollin Moore (Ohio State) 2 – NR - .9286 (three more matches for RPI, has enough without)
Jacob Warner (Iowa) 4 – NR - .8462 (not going to reach 17, but has enough without)
Christian Brunner (Purdue) 9 – 4 - .7273
Eric Schultz (Nebraska) 12 – 9 - .7200
Possible
Jackson Striggow (Michigan) 30 – 27 - .6111
Doubtful
Brad Wilton (Michigan State) NR – 32 - .6154
Dylan Anderson (Minnestota) NR – 25 - .6000
Andre Lee (Illinois) NR – 24 - .5769
Matt Correntti (Rutgers) NR – 21 - .5000
285 (Guess: 9)
Strong
Gable Steveson (Minnesota) 1 – 3 - 1.0000
Anthony Cassar (Penn State) 3 – 1 - .9474
Mason Parris (Michigan) 5 – 5 - .8214
Trent Hillger (Wisconsin) 6 – 4 - .8182
Conan Jennings (Northwestern) 7 – 8 - .6000
David Jensen (Nebraska) 8 – NR - .8235 (six matches against Non-DI keeping him from RPI)
Sam Stoll (Iowa) 10 – NR - .8750 (not going to get matches, won’t need them)
Chase Singletary (Ohio State) 18 – 6 - .7500
Possible
Youssif Hemida (Maryland ) 9 – NR - .6667 (needs to win last 4 for %, will not get match total)
Christian Colucci (Rutgers) 32 – 21 - .5909
Doubtful
Chase Beard (Michigan State) NR – 22 - .6000
Jacob Aven (Purdue) NR – 25 - .3600
i would blame Flo in these instances
Just that he’s 8 months out from knee surgery, while not a world class athlete but having had multiple leg surgery’s it’s 12 months back to baseline.
No argument on your experience. I skied confidently 5 months after ACL Allograft and a brace. Rode 70 miles with Lance Armstrong 7 weeks after my surgery. For Yanni, I guess his baseline is winning an NCAA championship with a torn ACL. It’s now repaired and he wears a spandex sleeve on it. He feels good to go. He looks good to go in all of his matches and no one near him would say he’s banged up, or even impaired in any way.
He didn't even have the sleeve this weekend for his two duals. His only issue at this point is endurance, it seems. Other than highly ranked opponents trying not to give up bonus points...
I would just say in a purely medical standpoint he’s not 100% healed. Hence why I said banged up, again he may feel 100% and not claim any discomfort but the repair etc is still in progress
Don't confuse the actual biologic healing of the surgical repair with being ready to resume unlimited activity. The biologic healing is most certainly complete at 8 mos. This does not mean the person is necessarily ready for unlimited activity. They will have to get a certain level of fitness, including strength, flexibility, kinesthetic sense, and other physiologic training in addition to the biologic healing.
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