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College Wrestling Program Being Eliminated

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Chainsawcity

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St. Olaf program being cut.
https://theguillotine.com/2019/10/g...ts-perspective-on-st-olaf-dropping-wrestling/
All in all, we are a wrestling community and lets not let this happen. Let's stop it. Contact info for those cutting it:
St. Olaf's Athletic Director, Ryan Bowles ( bowles@stolaf.edu / 507-786-3965)
David R. Anderson, President of the College, Ph. 507-786-3000 /anderson@stolaf.edu
Lets save this program!

This reminds me of that puke Trev Alberts who cut Omaha Nebraska's program the NIGHT they won the DII title.
https://deadspin.com/nebraska-omaha-wrestlers-win-national-title-lose-progr-5781496
 
Chainsawcity said:
St. Olaf program being cut.
https://theguillotine.com/2019/10/g...ts-perspective-on-st-olaf-dropping-wrestling/
All in all, we are a wrestling community and lets not let this happen. Let's stop it. Contact info for those cutting it:
St. Olaf's Athletic Director, Ryan Bowles ( bowles@stolaf.edu / 507-786-3965)
David R. Anderson, President of the College, Ph. 507-786-3000 /anderson@stolaf.edu
Lets save this program!

This reminds me of that puke Trev Alberts who cut Omaha Nebraska's program the NIGHT they won the DII title.
https://deadspin.com/nebraska-omaha-wrestlers-win-national-title-lose-progr-5781496
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St Olaf. Lol. I'm not even going to ask
 
what are the numbers like per year? Seems like small programs pop-up and then others will disappear. Not to sound like I don't care about DII or DIII wrestling-- I mean I don't, really-- but is this an actual problem?
 
They're within an hour of me. Have never really shined, but always seemed to get a decent wrestler here and there. Don't know how much they ever really invested into the program. Know nothing about the coach (which, I'd say I know a fair amount about most coaches in the MN/IA/WI area). I do know that when I was coming up and when my guys are going through recruiting processes (which there are a few D3/D2 caliber kids in my room) they've never mentioned being contacted by St. Olaf.

Northfield is kinda goofy in itself that it's a town of ~ 20K and has 2 colleges (Carleton and St. Olaf). Their HS team has recently really ramped up with a fantastic youth feeder system. They made the state tournament last year.

It sucks, regardless.
 
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LemonPie said:
what are the numbers like per year? Seems like small programs pop-up and then others will disappear. Not to sound like I don't care about DII or DIII wrestling-- I mean I don't, really-- but is this an actual problem?
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Don't follow D3 wrestling much. The NCAA data shows that the number of teams nationally declined by 48 programs from 1989 through 2010, inclusive, followed by an increase in the number of programs by 13 in eight years (2011 - 2018).
 
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St. Olaf must be melting in his grave!

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RoarLions1 said:
Don't follow D3 wrestling much. The NCAA data shows that the number of teams nationally declined by 48 programs from 1989 through 2010, inclusive, followed by an increase in the number of programs by 13 in eight years (2011 - 2018).
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In Division III, next year there will be 113 teams. That's the highest in Division III since there was 119 in 1995-96. With all three NCAA divisions, the low point was 222 in 2002-03. At the end of 2017-18, there were 241 teams. The NAIA has grown from 28 teams in 2008-09 to 57 at the end of 2017-18.

In my podcast (linked in the OP), the issue I'm having is the silence and refusal to address any and all concerns publicly. I've seen some e-mails where there's some doubletalk coming from the admins and the President hanging up on a concerned parent when she wanted to know her son's options. The AD, Facilities Coordinator and Office of the President have denied or ignored all my requests for interviews.

Personally, I feel its a case of the AD not liking the coach, being unable to fire him due to his recent deployment and laws surrounding re-hire and the coach wants resources and the school won't give them resources, but uses poor performance and low numbers against them, when the interim coach (when the coach was on a military deployment) brought in zero wrestlers. Coach came back with 7 bodies on his roster and no new ones set to come in. They may not perform super well, but everyone I've spoken to on it raves about him. So it's not all about W's and L's, especially at D3.
 
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JasonBryant said:
In Division III, next year there will be 113 teams. That's the highest in Division III since there was 119 in 1995-96. With all three NCAA divisions, the low point was 222 in 2002-03. At the end of 2017-18, there were 241 teams. The NAIA has grown from 28 teams in 2008-09 to 57 at the end of 2017-18.

In my podcast (linked in the OP), the issue I'm having is the silence and refusal to address any and all concerns publicly. I've seen some e-mails where there's some doubletalk coming from the admins and the President hanging up on a concerned parent when she wanted to know her son's options. The AD, Facilities Coordinator and Office of the President have denied or ignored all my requests for interviews.

Personally, I feel its a case of the AD not liking the coach, being unable to fire him due to his recent deployment and laws surrounding re-hire and the coach wants resources and the school won't give them resources, but uses poor performance and low numbers against them, when the interim coach (when the coach was on a military deployment) brought in zero wrestlers. Coach came back with 7 bodies on his roster and no new ones set to come in. They may not perform super well, but everyone I've spoken to on it raves about him. So it's not all about W's and L's, especially at D3.
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Thanks JB. Dang the drama, even if partly/mostly true. Sad for those impacted, as this is about them.
 
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