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Coralville Freestyle event - Feb 26

Just wondering, will Ramos, Gilman, Metcalf and St. John be allowed to attend?
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Ono is listed as a “member,” which probably just means he has an ID badge for accessing a dorm while here. Sorry to burst any bubbles. It’d be off the hook if he were actually going to compete for the Lions, but I don’t think it’s happening.
 
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Predictions for Ono vs Spencer? Both elite from par terre. I lean Ono from neutral but it’s close. Pace and conditioning seems to go to Ono as well. I think Ono wins but I have no idea how close. I could see either getting on top and ending it but if that doesn’t happen I’ll guess Ono by 4.
 
It's currently illegal for him to accept NIL. And you guys never break the rules 😜
No it's not. If a student-athlete is in the US on a student visa it would be illegal for him to work pursuant to an NIL contract. While most NIL contracts require work from the student-athlete (e.g., appear in ads, post on Instagram), the parties could enter into an NIL deal whereby existing images, videos, are used by the business, rather than requiring any services of the student-athlete that would cause them to risk their student visa status. This isn't a theory, it's already happening in places.
 
No it's not. If a student-athlete is in the US on a student visa it would be illegal for him to work pursuant to an NIL contract. While most NIL contracts require work from the student-athlete (e.g., appear in ads, post on Instagram), the parties could enter into an NIL deal whereby existing images, videos, are used by the business, rather than requiring any services of the student-athlete that would cause them to risk their student visa status. This isn't a theory, it's already happening in places.
If he's not looking to be a student they can pay him whatever they want obviously but that wouldn't be considered NIL. I'm no lawyer like you . So explain the difference between this situation and the Canadian basketball player who couldn't receive NIL. If Ono was looking to enroll of course
 
If he's not looking to be a student they can pay him whatever they want obviously but that wouldn't be considered NIL. I'm no lawyer like you . So explain the difference between this situation and the Canadian basketball player who couldn't receive NIL. If Ono was looking to enroll of course
I don't know the situation you're referencing, but you're conflating two distinct concepts. There is no NIL-specific prohibition against foreign students accepting NIL deals. The problem is that foreign students here on student visas can't work, and NIL typically requires work. But if a student can enter into an NIL contract that doesn't require work, the student isn't jeopardizing their F-1 student visa status. And there are ways to accomplish this. For someone like Ono, it wouldn't be difficult to accomplish because there is already a lot of material (photos, videos, etc.) to work with. For a high school recruit, such a contract might be more difficult to enter into with a straight face, but it's not clear anyone, much less the NCAA, is aggressively policing NIL contracts.

I've no idea whether NIL is even a consideration for Ono or Penn State to make something work, I'm speaking purely in the hypothetical. But it's inaccurate to state that foreign students can't enter into NIL deals simply because they can't enter into the types of deals we're most used to seeing.
 
I don't know the situation you're referencing, but you're conflating two distinct concepts. There is no NIL-specific prohibition against foreign students accepting NIL deals. The problem is that foreign students here on student visas can't work, and NIL typically requires work. But if a student can enter into an NIL contract that doesn't require work, the student isn't jeopardizing their F-1 student visa status. And there are ways to accomplish this. For someone like Ono, it wouldn't be difficult to accomplish because there is already a lot of material (photos, videos, etc.) to work with. For a high school recruit, such a contract might be more difficult to enter into with a straight face, but it's not clear anyone, much less the NCAA, is aggressively policing NIL contracts.

I've no idea whether NIL is even a consideration for Ono or Penn State to make something work, I'm speaking purely in the hypothetical. But it's inaccurate to state that foreign students can't enter into NIL deals simply because they can't enter into the types of deals we're most used to seeing.
How would an athlete collect NIL without doing off campus work?

This is what I was referring to


Sounds like the only way Ono could get NIL is if they wrestled a few duals in Japan
 
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How would an athlete collect NIL without doing off campus work?
If the student is merely licensing his name/image/likeness, which is all NIL deals are, and manifestations of his/her name/image/likeness already exist, there's no work necessary. Granted, most businesses would want to have the student-athlete hawk their products at an event or online, but if, say, Goldschlager wanted to use a photo of Ono winning gold to sell their liquor, what work (from the student) is necessary? The contract couldn't require Ono to make appearances, but if all that's at issue is branding and the collateral exists, no work is necessary from the student-athlete.
 
How would an athlete collect NIL without doing off campus work?

This is what I was referring to


Sounds like the only way Ono could get NIL is if they wrestled a few duals in Japan
It's not unusual to see misstatements of legal facts in major media, like this one:

It also means that Edey can't get paid from any NIL deals unless he is physically in his home country.

It seems like they've found an additional workaround, since the NCAA can't reach outside its limited jurisdiction (the US) to prohibit work. But it's not the only way:

While less common, passive NIL engagements leverage the influence of the athlete without requiring any labor on the athlete’s end. The group licensing payments for the upcoming EA Sports NCAA Football video game can best illustrate this type of engagement. In exchange for financial considerations, student-athletes give EA Sports a license to use their name, image, likeness, voice, and jersey number in the game. No labor comes from the student-athlete, and therefore, no violation of their student visa has occurred.

Some of the nation’s most sophisticated collective management companies have been able to bypass the restrictions of F-1 student visas. One Penn State collective was able to passively license Canadian athletes’ NIL for billboards in their home country. While these endorsements require additional care and financial investment to ensure compliance with passive licensing principles, they can be helpful tools for collectives to attract and retain elite international talent.
 
Anyone who knows me knows I can't write like the bird. And I have no problem with people knowing who I am and I will say what's on my mind from this one account. I know that was joke and you made me LOL.
I didn’t make you LOL until you emote me.
All jokes here.
Very few here are super serious but I’m sure you know that by now.
And no one looks at the world quite like the bird much less write like him.
 
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Hmmmm root for Spencer Lee who gave Penn State the finger and then refused to wrestle back for 3rd for his Iowa team and sent his Daddy out to give his excuse

or

World Champion and NLWC guest Ono who appears to be all in on PSU wrestling and is helping our lightweights take their skills to the next level

Not acutally a tough call at all.
 
Hmmmm root for Spencer Lee who gave Penn State the finger and then refused to wrestle back for 3rd for his Iowa team and sent his Daddy out to give his excuse

or

World Champion and NLWC guest Ono who appears to be all in on PSU wrestling and is helping our lightweights take their skills to the next level

Not acutally a tough call at all.
Did you root for Spencer in the Olympics?
 
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