Just wondering, will Ramos, Gilman, Metcalf and St. John be allowed to attend?Starting a new thread for FS and Int'l newsworthy items not related to our NLWC members.
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Just wondering, will Ramos, Gilman, Metcalf and St. John be allowed to attend?
He's coming in as a freshman next year
Interesting wrinkle to this
well said!One is training at Penn State and one is training at Iowa.....
I’m curious…who will be in Ono’s corner?One is training at Penn State and one is training at Iowa.....
Ringo, George and Paul?John.
I asked for that. Touché!Ringo, George and Paul?
I’m curious…who will be in Ono’s corner?
That's going to be a lot of fun. Their Nationals matches in 2022 were a highlight of the tournament!
Will you have pictures of the bag he’s offered?Flo will be in town today and tomorrow with Ono getting some footage for promoting the event
It's currently illegal for him to accept NIL. And you guys never break the rules 😜Will you have pictures of the bag he’s offered?
Ok Ironbird.IT'S CURRENTLY ILLEGAL FOR HIM TO ACCEPT nil. AND YOU GUYS NEVER BREAK THE RULES. 😜
Anyone who knows me knows I can't write like the bird. And I have no problem with people knowing who I am and I will say what's on my mind from this one account. I know that was joke and you made me LOL.Ok Ironbird.
No it's not. If a student-athlete is in the US on a student visa it would be illegal for him to work pursuant to an NIL contract. While most NIL contracts require work from the student-athlete (e.g., appear in ads, post on Instagram), the parties could enter into an NIL deal whereby existing images, videos, are used by the business, rather than requiring any services of the student-athlete that would cause them to risk their student visa status. This isn't a theory, it's already happening in places.It's currently illegal for him to accept NIL. And you guys never break the rules 😜
If he's not looking to be a student they can pay him whatever they want obviously but that wouldn't be considered NIL. I'm no lawyer like you . So explain the difference between this situation and the Canadian basketball player who couldn't receive NIL. If Ono was looking to enroll of courseNo it's not. If a student-athlete is in the US on a student visa it would be illegal for him to work pursuant to an NIL contract. While most NIL contracts require work from the student-athlete (e.g., appear in ads, post on Instagram), the parties could enter into an NIL deal whereby existing images, videos, are used by the business, rather than requiring any services of the student-athlete that would cause them to risk their student visa status. This isn't a theory, it's already happening in places.
I don't know the situation you're referencing, but you're conflating two distinct concepts. There is no NIL-specific prohibition against foreign students accepting NIL deals. The problem is that foreign students here on student visas can't work, and NIL typically requires work. But if a student can enter into an NIL contract that doesn't require work, the student isn't jeopardizing their F-1 student visa status. And there are ways to accomplish this. For someone like Ono, it wouldn't be difficult to accomplish because there is already a lot of material (photos, videos, etc.) to work with. For a high school recruit, such a contract might be more difficult to enter into with a straight face, but it's not clear anyone, much less the NCAA, is aggressively policing NIL contracts.If he's not looking to be a student they can pay him whatever they want obviously but that wouldn't be considered NIL. I'm no lawyer like you . So explain the difference between this situation and the Canadian basketball player who couldn't receive NIL. If Ono was looking to enroll of course
How would an athlete collect NIL without doing off campus work?I don't know the situation you're referencing, but you're conflating two distinct concepts. There is no NIL-specific prohibition against foreign students accepting NIL deals. The problem is that foreign students here on student visas can't work, and NIL typically requires work. But if a student can enter into an NIL contract that doesn't require work, the student isn't jeopardizing their F-1 student visa status. And there are ways to accomplish this. For someone like Ono, it wouldn't be difficult to accomplish because there is already a lot of material (photos, videos, etc.) to work with. For a high school recruit, such a contract might be more difficult to enter into with a straight face, but it's not clear anyone, much less the NCAA, is aggressively policing NIL contracts.
I've no idea whether NIL is even a consideration for Ono or Penn State to make something work, I'm speaking purely in the hypothetical. But it's inaccurate to state that foreign students can't enter into NIL deals simply because they can't enter into the types of deals we're most used to seeing.
If the student is merely licensing his name/image/likeness, which is all NIL deals are, and manifestations of his/her name/image/likeness already exist, there's no work necessary. Granted, most businesses would want to have the student-athlete hawk their products at an event or online, but if, say, Goldschlager wanted to use a photo of Ono winning gold to sell their liquor, what work (from the student) is necessary? The contract couldn't require Ono to make appearances, but if all that's at issue is branding and the collateral exists, no work is necessary from the student-athlete.How would an athlete collect NIL without doing off campus work?
It's not unusual to see misstatements of legal facts in major media, like this one:How would an athlete collect NIL without doing off campus work?
This is what I was referring to
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How Zach Edey, Purdue men's hoops star, is overcoming immigration law to benefit from NIL
Because he is an international student, Purdue basketball star Zach Edey can't make money of his name, image and likeness. But he found a loophole.www.usatoday.com
Sounds like the only way Ono could get NIL is if they wrestled a few duals in Japan
While less common, passive NIL engagements leverage the influence of the athlete without requiring any labor on the athlete’s end. The group licensing payments for the upcoming EA Sports NCAA Football video game can best illustrate this type of engagement. In exchange for financial considerations, student-athletes give EA Sports a license to use their name, image, likeness, voice, and jersey number in the game. No labor comes from the student-athlete, and therefore, no violation of their student visa has occurred.
Some of the nation’s most sophisticated collective management companies have been able to bypass the restrictions of F-1 student visas. One Penn State collective was able to passively license Canadian athletes’ NIL for billboards in their home country. While these endorsements require additional care and financial investment to ensure compliance with passive licensing principles, they can be helpful tools for collectives to attract and retain elite international talent.
It’s Coralville, where bags go to get bigger.It's currently illegal for him to accept NIL. And you guys never break the rules 😜
I didn’t make you LOL until you emote me.Anyone who knows me knows I can't write like the bird. And I have no problem with people knowing who I am and I will say what's on my mind from this one account. I know that was joke and you made me LOL.
Did you root for Spencer in the Olympics?Hmmmm root for Spencer Lee who gave Penn State the finger and then refused to wrestle back for 3rd for his Iowa team and sent his Daddy out to give his excuse
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World Champion and NLWC guest Ono who appears to be all in on PSU wrestling and is helping our lightweights take their skills to the next level
Not acutally a tough call at all.
I did, but he didn't wrestle RBY in the Olympics.Did you root for Spencer in the Olympics?
This isn't the Olympics.Did you root for Spencer in the Olympics?
Penn St before country?I did, but he didn't wrestle RBY in the Olympics.