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Dear Coach, please study Bill-o

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Dear Coach Franklin, I hope you take the time this year to watch some Penn State film from 2012-13. There is a lot in the Bill O'Brien offense that this team could do well. Look what it did for Carter -- no reason it wouldn't work again. Look at the success Jesse James had, the years Alan Robinson had -- well PSU probably has players on the roster who are that good. And think about what the New England offense would have done with running back speed like they have this year. O'Brien emphasized quickness and deception, and this team has both.
 
Each TE has to block to compensate for OL problems. OB's offence does not work due to OL's problem. Plus WRs were not running proper routes. Too many issues. 2013 got quite ugly at times.
 
If Billy hadn't left Franklin ZIP, NADA, BUPKISS on the offensive line the offense would have looked a hell of a lot better. O'Brien's offense would have looked just as putrid.

And maybe O'Brien should look at film of Penn State's defense last year. Never seen a debacle as bad as O'Brien/Butler vs. OSU his last year.
 
ARob made OB look good, not the other way around. That would be like telling the Marshall coach to watch film of the offense when they had Pennington and Moss and run the offense like that.
 
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If Billy hadn't left Franklin ZIP, NADA, BUPKISS on the offensive line the offense would have looked a hell of a lot better. O'Brien's offense would have looked just as putrid.

And maybe O'Brien should look at film of Penn State's defense last year. Never seen a debacle as bad as O'Brien/Butler vs. OSU his last year.

Yea, no doubt - beyond absurd to compare results given the depleted roster that Coach Franklin inherited relative to what FLO inherited in 2012 (even with the NCAA-engineered & encouraged defections - most especially along the OL and LB as it pertains to both starters and quality depth). To compare results given the depleted roster, joke recruiting FLO did in 2013 and the manner in which FLO left (intentionally left program, coaching staff and recruiting in a shambles as he was telling Douche-nozzle Jones he was leaving more than a month before he did and not to report it until the morning after he left...and to blame it on the "Joe-bots", not his own averice!) is ridiculous and absurdly unfair to Coach Franklin who has been nothing but a breathe of fresh air especially in regards to PSU's time-honored traditions.
 
Franklin did use O'Brien's offense in the first game last year against UCF and Hack threw for over 450 yards. After that they moved to some system I didn't recognize.
 
Dear Coach Franklin, I hope you take the time this year to watch some Penn State film from 2012-13. There is a lot in the Bill O'Brien offense that this team could do well. Look what it did for Carter -- no reason it wouldn't work again. Look at the success Jesse James had, the years Alan Robinson had -- well PSU probably has players on the roster who are that good. And think about what the New England offense would have done with running back speed like they have this year. O'Brien emphasized quickness and deception, and this team has both.


Let us know when Obrien actually develops a QB in Houston. OB would have won about 6 games if it was not for JJ Watt scoring TDs on defense.

OBrien should study film on Franklin and learn how to hire a DC and recruit.

NE never won ANYTHING with Obrien. They did their winning before and AFTER Obrien.

Signed, BumPHillipsBot.
 
If Billy hadn't left Franklin ZIP, NADA, BUPKISS on the offensive line the offense would have looked a hell of a lot better. O'Brien's offense would have looked just as putrid.

And maybe O'Brien should look at film of Penn State's defense last year. Never seen a debacle as bad as O'Brien/Butler vs. OSU his last year.
The sanctions and players leaving the program left Franklin with nothing. I think he(BOB) is blameless. BOB did not make Smith leave early and he had nothing to do with Diffenbach getting hurt. There were other lineman who for various reasons are no longer with the program. Factor in the scholarship limits and stigma hurting recruiting and I don't see how anybody can blame a coach for having just one weak spot on his position player roster. I think it was pretty much impossible to be able to have proper depth and talent on every unit on a team fighting scholarship limits and debilitating sanctions.
 
Let us know when Obrien actually develops a QB in Houston. OB would have won about 6 games if it was not for JJ Watt scoring TDs on defense.

OBrien should study film on Franklin and learn how to hire a DC and recruit.

NE never won ANYTHING with Obrien. They did their winning before and AFTER Obrien.

Signed, BumPHillipsBot.
 
Let us know when Obrien actually develops a QB in Houston. OB would have won about 6 games if it was not for JJ Watt scoring TDs on defense.

OBrien should study film on Franklin and learn how to hire a DC and recruit.

NE never won ANYTHING with Obrien. They did their winning before and AFTER Obrien.

Signed, BumPHillipsBot.
They won at least one division and one conference championship. They also should have beaten the Giants if the great Wes Welker catches a pass he normally would handle. The NFL does not come calling unless you are a high quality coach. I think Penn State is better off with Franklin overall due to Franklin's ability to recruit but O' Brien without sanctions would have been very good also.
 
He made a walk on into an NFL quarterback and won eight games with an 18 year old quarterback in his two years here. I would say he is very good with quarterbacks.
 
The sanctions and players leaving the program left Franklin with nothing. I think he(BOB) is blameless. BOB did not make Smith leave early and he had nothing to do with Diffenbach getting hurt. There were other lineman who for various reasons are no longer with the program. Factor in the scholarship limits and stigma hurting recruiting and I don't see how anybody can blame a coach for having just one weak spot on his position player roster. I think it was pretty much impossible to be able to have proper depth and talent on every unit on a team fighting scholarship limits and debilitating sanctions.

BOB's plan to weather the sanctions was to develop an OL from a higher percentage of walkon's than he was going to use at other positions, which is a flawed plan because the game is won or lost in the trenches. Yes to be a big winner you need quality across the board and you definately need quality at the skill positions, but if you don't have at least adequate line play you will never be successful as we saw last year when we had excellent DL play and very poor OL play. If he would have spread his scholarships around the positions evenly we would have had a couple additional OL kids last year (which could have made a big difference) instead of a couple of extra DB kids that will never get significant playing time.
 
Not criticizing Franklin at all. They couldn't run any kind of offensive scheme at all last year with the OL and running backs in the state they were in.

But this year.... I just think it's a good year for Franklin to be looking at what is likely to work with this young, talented group. I hope we get back to multiple sets and plays that go against tendency and keep a D off balance.

I just thought O'Brien did a phenomenal job of adapting some of the New England philosophies to a college offense -- he came up with something that wasn't too complicated for the PSU players to learn in a hurry, but it was still confusing enough for B1G defenses.

McGloin the first year was throwing to wide open receivers probably 50% of the time -- when people are that open, it means there is something deceptive. And they were also great at getting mismatches -- i.e. Carter single covered by a corner is going to be a real challenge for most corners.
 
Even Rich Kotite won a playoff game.
BOB's plan to weather the sanctions was to develop an OL from a higher percentage of walkon's than he was going to use at other positions, which is a flawed plan because the game is won or lost in the trenches. Yes to be a big winner you need quality across the board and you definately need quality at the skill positions, but if you don't have at least adequate line play you will never be successful as we saw last year when we had excellent DL play and very poor OL play. If he would have spread his scholarships around the positions evenly we would have had a couple additional OL kids last year (which could have made a big difference) instead of a couple of extra DB kids that will never get significant playing time.


Bob also waited until year TWO to bring in the walkons which was a huge oversight. They need time to develop and he lost a year.
 
The defense could not stop Indiana.

Our offense sucked against Indiana - Indiana had the WORST DEFENSE IN THE CONFERENCE in 2013 in terms of Scoring Defense and Total Defense in conference games giving up 42 ppg (dead last in Scoring Defense) and 560 ypg (dead last in Total Defense) in b1g games. Meanwhile, 'ole Billy Boy FLO's awesomely incredible offense put up 24 points and 410 yards of offense in a 44-24 blowout stomping by Indiana - freaking Indiana, with the worst defense in the entire conference, took us behind the woodshed and gave us a beatdown because FLO's awesomely incredible offense couldn't put up any numbers on an incredibly putrid Indiana defense even by Indiana's standards!!! Now that is f'ing embarassing regardless of how you lamely try to spin it -- btw, you are absolutely full of $hit, it was not the offense's fault we were never in the game - here's how many points Indiana's b1g opponents put up against their putrid defense:

63 points - Michigan (in a 47-63 Indiana loss)
51 points - Wisconsin (in a 51-3 Indiana loss)
42 points - tO$U, Minny and MSU (in 3 Indiana losses 28-42 vs MSU, 39-42 vs Minny and 14-42 vs tO$U)
36 points - Purdue (in a 56-36 Indiana win)
35 points - Illinois (in a 52-35 Indiana win)
24 points - PSU (in a 44-24 Indiana win)

Excluding PSU, the Indiana gave up 44.5 ppg in their other 7 b1g games; Indiana scored an average of 34 ppg in the other 7.

So in essence, PSU's supposedly vaunted offense according to you, scored 11 less points than any other Indiana b1g opponent in 2013 and scored 20.5 points less than Indiana's average b1g opponent excluding PSU in 2013......AND this vaunted PSU offense put up 410 yards Total Offense against the worst b1g defense in b1g play - a defense that gave up an average of 582 ypg against its b1g opponents excluding PSU and that's a freaking average number against those other 7 b1g opponents! So PSU put up 172 less offensive yards versus the AVERAGE of Indiana's other 7 b1g opponents, but that is incredibly awesome in your opinion?

Only a complete moron who knows nothing about football could look at those staggering numbers of how beyond putrid Indiana's defense was and sit here and lay the blame for that loss on the defense (especially absurd when Indian's offense had quite a bit of success against b1g defenses putting up more than 35 points against 5 of them and averaging 35.4 ppg in b1g games which was 2nd best in the league, but it's all the defenses fault??? Huh???
 
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Last year, Illinios should have been a win. Michigan should also have been a win, blitzes could have done the trick. Defence ran out strategy and gas in both games!

NW loss was quite serious. This game provided template for other teams about how to beat Penn State. Penn State could not respond to blitzes that resulted in sacks and losses. TEs or RBs could not pick up safety blitzes. It was ugly!
 
Franklin could learn a lot about being savvy, subtle, and cool under pressure on the sidelines...

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