Derek Carr ignites Raiders-Steelers rivalry, says Immaculate Reception ball 'touched the ground'
Derek Carr took a huge shot at the Steelers organization before they take on the Raiders in Week 2.
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Derek Carr says "Immaculate Reception" hit the ground
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That's funny. As the article says, his comment won't mean much to current Steelers players or even younger Steelers fans. But fans over the age of 60 will be pissed!! It's the same people who are angry about mobile ticketing.
He's certainly not alone in thinking that. I remember watching a video with some of the officials from that game. They said they got on the phone with stadium security to see how many security people they could offer them because they were going to disallow the touchdown (either because Fuqua touched it first or it hit the ground before Franco got it, can't remember). When the security office said they only had a couple of security people to escort the officials out of the stadium, they said forget that, Touchdown!!!!!
PSU should cut back on security for um and Tosu games.
The argument I always heard (and Jack Tatum said often) that it hit Fuqua first. Never heard much about it hitting the ground.
The ball never touched the ground and that was NOT even an issue/question at the time. The only issue was whether Fuqua touched the ball first, and with today’s technology if you watch the play frMe by frame it’s clear that Tatum hit the ball first/only and caused it to propel backwards. If the Raiders’ DB didn’t jump up in premature celebration, the TD never happens.
For at least a couple of decades there was an NFL film shot from the Raiders’ end zone that clearly showed Franco catch the ball about a foot off the ground. That film (which I saw many times in the ensuing years) apparently disappeared and now the same angle is in a zoom shot only, which unfortunately cuts off the bottom of the frame. This “second controversy” is a BS made for TV thing that enables Franco to give a coy “I’ll never tell” answer to keep it interesting every five or ten year anniversary. For decades the only person “cashing in” for interviews was Fuqua, because (again) whether he touched the ball was the only controversy.
P.S. I was at the game and it was awesome — still have my ticket stub (it cost $12.50).
For at least a couple of decades there was an NFL film shot from the Raiders’ end zone that clearly showed Franco catch the ball about a foot off the ground. That film (which I saw many times in the ensuing years) apparently disappeared and now the same angle is in a zoom shot only, which unfortunately cuts off the bottom of the frame. This “second controversy” is a BS made for TV thing that enables Franco to give a coy “I’ll never tell” answer to keep it interesting every five or ten year anniversary. For decades the only person “cashing in” for interviews was Fuqua, because (again) whether he touched the ball was the only controversy.
P.S. I was at the game and it was awesome — still have my ticket stub (it cost $12.50).
Was just going to post the same thing. It never came close to hitting the ground.
Derek Carr ignites Raiders-Steelers rivalry, says Immaculate Reception ball 'touched the ground'
Derek Carr took a huge shot at the Steelers organization before they take on the Raiders in Week 2.
Well Derek Carr is a pretty bright individual.
If Jack Tatum wasn't a head hunter and instead of going for a kill shot on Fuqua and instead goes for the ball, the Immaculate Reception never happens.
I am over 60. I looked up the score - still the same. So I have no problem with his opinion - after all, everyone has one.
Iggles fans eat horse manure directly from the sidewalk.
All who watch the film are repulsed. Except Iggles fans.
I'm so mad about this...I'll take on Derek Carr and the whole Raiders team...here's what I'd do...line 'em up:
I didn't like Carr before that comment.Derek Carr ignites Raiders-Steelers rivalry, says Immaculate Reception ball 'touched the ground'
Derek Carr took a huge shot at the Steelers organization before they take on the Raiders in Week 2.
I think he should be focused on actually winning a big game.
That's the thing. Most people wouldn't have looked up the score, although I'm sure you didn't actually do so. Older Steelers fans see those 70s teams as part of their identity. They almost take personal offense when anyone questions the legitimacy of them. Mention the 1979 AFC Championship Game and Steelers fans will say the botched call didn't matter anyway even though it would have completely changed the momentum of the game. And never, ever, ever mention steroid use or you'll hear the angry explanation that steroids weren't banned back then and besides, everyone else was doing it too. The Steelers just doped better than everyone else.
And Carr wasn't really offering an opinion since, as noted above, the issue never was whether or not the ball hit the ground. He was simply ginning up interest in an upcoming game. I like the historical aspect of it.
Not clear to me, every time I watch it I see Fuqua’s fingers tip the ball into Tatum and then it bounces off….but it never hit the ground.
Not a Steelers fan, but looking at this replay seems pretty obvious the ball was a good 1-3" above the ground when Harris snagged it - IOW, Touchdwn! Can slow down the video between 1:17 and 1:18
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Well, Fuqua was in front of him, his arms were outstretched, the ball changes direction, so not sure how it never comes close. It’s still being argued about almost 50 years later, so I’d say it was close.
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