Dishonest liberal hack posts gun data, misleads people by obscuring real data.

PSUEngineer89

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One of the freaks on this board tried to mislead people about gun ownership and murders by gun.

That freak omitted the fact that the data ze was about to post contained suicides and accidents.

Here is the data for gun murder rate vs ownership.

Maypole - you are a dishonest POS.

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One of the freaks on this board tried to mislead people about gun ownership and murders by gun.

That freak omitted the fact that the data ze was about to post contained suicides and accidents.

Here is the data for gun murder rate vs ownership.

Maypole - you are a dishonest POS.

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@maypole is as dishonest as they come. He’s nothing more than a deceitful and dishonest Democrat Party political propagandist and enabler.
 

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That post by Maypole was the 2nd attempt by a leftie at that same data. I believe Royal tried it earlier.

Democrats and the media, but I repeat myself, are typically dishonest and usually have an agenda when using "statistics." In this case they want to disarm law abiding citizens.

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One of the freaks on this board tried to mislead people about gun ownership and murders by gun.

That freak omitted the fact that the data ze was about to post contained suicides and accidents.

Here is the data for gun murder rate vs ownership.

Maypole - you are a dishonest POS.

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I know that immediately I saw it when I was logged out. They always do that, mix in suicides with violent crime which is primarily an inner city thing.
But why engage the liar? It’s an obvious alt. account . Almost none of them attempt to have an honest disgusting, just ignore them .
 
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A- There are no accidents, everything happens for a reason
B- Easy to understand why someone living in a red state would commit suicide.
 
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One of the freaks on this board tried to mislead people about gun ownership and murders by gun.

That freak omitted the fact that the data ze was about to post contained suicides and accidents.

Here is the data for gun murder rate vs ownership.

Maypole - you are a dishonest POS.

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You made the mistake of thinking he understands the term Data
 
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PSUEngineer89

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I know that immediately I saw it when I was logged out. They always do that, mix in suicides with violent crime which is primarily an inner city thing.
But why engage the liar? It’s an obvious alt. account . Almost none of them attempt to have an honest disgusting, just ignore them .
I just want to put Maypole in position where he must admit he lied.

Right @maypole - you're just a lying, misleading democrat POS.

Right?
 

bourbon n blues

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I just want to put Maypole in position where he must admit he lied.

Right @maypole - you're just a lying, misleading democrat POS.

Right?
None of them ever do, do like me, call them trash or morons and move on. He's posting here under another screen name too. Lying is part of their game, they never own up to it.
 
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An altered state
Interesting chart. Gun ownership vs murder rate seems inconsequential, in that it is all over the board. Some of the highest murder rates are in states with high rates of gun ownership. Yet some of the states with the highest gun ownership rates have very low murder rates.

Looking at the states it seems that the worsts states are the southern states. Could it be weather? Education levels? Illegal immigration? Drug abuse levels? Race based? Don’t know but gun ownership rates seem to have little correlation.
 

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Interesting chart. Gun ownership vs murder rate seems inconsequential, in that it is all over the board. Some of the highest murder rates are in states with high rates of gun ownership. Yet some of the states with the highest gun ownership rates have very low murder rates.

Looking at the states it seems that the worsts states are the southern states. Could it be weather? Education levels? Illegal immigration? Drug abuse levels? Race based? Don’t know but gun ownership rates seem to have little correlation.
Race is the biggest factor. The data is overwhelming.

 

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Why
Do
People
Pay
Any
Attention
To
The
Board
Demons?

seriously. Put them on ignore.
Truthfully, for me it’s pure entertainment value only. I honestly don’t get very upset with the stupidity and idiotic comments by these trolls and buffoons, although I’m convinced that they actually believe some if not most of the nonsense and pablum they constantly 🤮. The only concern I have is that these hard core leftist pimps convince the lazy, complacent, and naive to buy into their absolute lunacy and create more useful idiots.

I find it entertaining to see the length they will go, using very torturous logic and buffoonery in their posts. I guess it’s hard to believe that people would actually be that dishonest, intolerant, uniformed, and filled with hate, but when you consider that likely 1/3 of the US population vote for hard core Democrat Socialists and are incapable of recognizing just how stupid and narrow minded they are, I guess it makes sense.

Bottom line, we’ll get the country we deserve, but I’ll fight these clowns every step of the way.
 

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PSUTED - Same here. Pure entertainment for me as well.
I actually think a few of the lefties cry a bit when they get into a losing argument.
 
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One of the freaks on this board tried to mislead people about gun ownership and murders by gun.

That freak omitted the fact that the data ze was about to post contained suicides and accidents.

Here is the data for gun murder rate vs ownership.

Maypole - you are a dishonest POS.

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I posted a half dozen studies, you lying Nazi scum.
You just took the one that included suicides.
But since when don’t suicides and accidents count as deaths, you freaking fascist asshole?
 

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I posted a half dozen studies, you lying Nazi scum.
You just took the one that included suicides.
But since when don’t suicides and accidents count as deaths, you freaking fascist asshole?
Hahaha.

You’re fooling no one.

Also, the fascist is the one arguing to take guns from citizens, including the Nazis. The truth is, liberal totalitarians are the Nazis.

Here are some real fascists taking guns from citizens:

https://mises.org/wire/brief-history-repressive-regimes-and-their-gun-laws
 

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I really don't think he is lying per se. People who are anti-gun believe that all gun deaths are equal and done by assault rifles. If you believe that a gun death is a gun death regardless of reason then of course that is the data you would present.

This is why statistics are always used to skew arguments, because they can be manipulated to prove whatever position you hold.
 
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I really don't think he is lying per se. People who are anti-gun believe that all gun deaths are equal and done by assault rifles. If you believe that a gun death is a gun death regardless of reason then of course that is the data you would present.

This is why statistics are always used to skew arguments, because they can be manipulated to prove whatever position you hold.
The state has no interest in protecting people from themselves, IN A FREE SOCIETY.

The state‘s job is to protect you from your fellow citizens.

So his data is misleading, and since he knows it, a lie.

Of course, in a totalitarian society, the state always knows what’s best for the individual. In such a society, you might have a point.
 

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I really don't think he is lying per se. People who are anti-gun believe that all gun deaths are equal and done by assault rifles. If you believe that a gun death is a gun death regardless of reason then of course that is the data you would present.

This is why statistics are always used to skew arguments, because they can be manipulated to prove whatever position you hold.
He's lying, your beliefs do not change reality. Experts in violence know suicides, accidents, lawful self defense, and criminal murders with a gun are completely different categories. After a few times of telling people this if they persist in their delusion there is no other conclusion other than dishonesty.
 

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The state has no interest in protecting people from themselves, IN A FREE SOCIETY.

The state‘s job is to protect you from your fellow citizens.

So his data is misleading, and since he knows it, a lie.

Of course, in a totalitarian society, the state always knows what’s best for the individual. In such a society, you might have a point.
Typical Nazi arguments. Why do governments fund suicide phone lines, you fascist? Why do we have mandatory airbags in cars? Or are they signs of a totalitarian society, scum?
How do know that in one of my stats, among 6 I cited, I knew it included suicides and accidents? You don’t, you lying sack of fascist crap.
 

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I really don't think he is lying per se. People who are anti-gun believe that all gun deaths are equal and done by assault rifles. If you believe that a gun death is a gun death regardless of reason then of course that is the data you would present.

This is why statistics are always used to skew arguments, because they can be manipulated to prove whatever position you hold.
No, I don’t believe all gun deaths are done by assault rifles, a small minority are.
Almost every study conducted on the subject shows a correlation in murder rate with gun ownership. The other poster quotes from Fox News one of the few that shows the opposite.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state>
 

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Typical Nazi arguments. Why do governments fund suicide phone lines, you fascist? Why do we have mandatory airbags in cars? Or are they signs of a totalitarian society, scum?
How do know that in one of my stats, among 6 I cited, I knew it included suicides and accidents? You don’t, you lying sack of fascist crap.
Just give it up, you got busted lying…again. Nazi.
 
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Just give it up, you got busted lying…again. Nazi.
Well, I don’t think he’s a Nazi, but the totalitarian Nazi state has far more in common with deep state liberal beliefs than it does with my individual freedom first beliefs.

Maypole, being a complete midwit, cannot allow himself to see that.
 
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Well, I don’t think he’s a Nazi, but the totalitarian Nazi state has far more in common with deep state liberal beliefs than it does with my individual freedom first beliefs.
“Individual freedom“ is newspeak for Fascism and Ayn Randian selfishness.
“Deep state” is newspeak for civilized government.
 

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One of the freaks on this board tried to mislead people about gun ownership and murders by gun.

That freak omitted the fact that the data ze was about to post contained suicides and accidents.

Here is the data for gun murder rate vs ownership.

Maypole - you are a dishonest POS.

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Wow, ignoring your attempt at content, I hope you aren’t around any sharp objects. You are one hate filled , fu$cked up little creature. What kind of adult looses it like that.
Talk about dishonest??! You are using a percentage to compare an actual number? Figured Fox could fool people like you. You need to compare actual people to and actual body count. Percentages are meaningless in his comments and previous ACCURATE data. The percentage was a purposefully place as a non- contributing factor because they knew people like you would not understand the actual facts presented. Never did any post graduate work I take it. You have to look at the blue lines and red lines. Read for meaning, it helps .
 
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“Individual freedom“ is newspeak for Fascism and Ayn Randian selfishness.
“Deep state” is newspeak for civilized government.
Nope.

I am happy to let everyone live as they see fit as long as they don’t directly harm others.

You guys side again and again with more and more government power.

Don't look now, but YOU are the Nazi.
 

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Well, I don’t think he’s a Nazi, but the totalitarian Nazi state has far more in common with deep state liberal beliefs than it does with my individual freedom first beliefs.

Maypole, being a complete midwit, cannot allow himself to see that.
He calls everyone a Nazi, so I assume he doesn’t mind being called one.
 

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