DT Tywone Malone in the portal
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Big doesn't mean good or being from Jersey doesn't mean interested in PSU.
Exactly. Need to find someone who has had a good amount of playing experience.
So far, the portal DTs look like this:
1. Some experience, high end prospects seeking NIL payouts
2. Highly rated kids, not seeing the field, seeking playing time.
Neither of those are a guaranteed upgrade over what we have. It's near impossible to evaluate DTs that have so few snaps. That HS evaluation doesn't mean squat anymore.
1. Some experience, high end prospects seeking NIL payouts
2. Highly rated kids, not seeing the field, seeking playing time.
Neither of those are a guaranteed upgrade over what we have. It's near impossible to evaluate DTs that have so few snaps. That HS evaluation doesn't mean squat anymore.
Kind of like most freshman DTs.
Yep, Franklin won't direct big NIL $ to a portal player so anyone here expecting a big DT that started and played at a high level at a P5 team is probably out of luck.
And I believe expecting an "upgrade" is pretty unrealistic as well. Izzard, Ellis and the other bigger DT's now on the PSU roster are pretty good players that would have lots of landing spots if they went into the portal. I believe a rational expectation is for a big DT with limited experience that can come to PSU and compete to get into the 1 tech DT rotation. Nothing more.
When Franklin got Tangelo that was petty much pre-NIL. A player as good and with as much experience as Tangelo had when Franklin got him would be much harder to bring to PSU in the current NIL environment.
JMO. We'll just have to wait and see what happens........
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Tywone Malone wanted to play both football and baseball in college, which is what he is currently doing at Ole Miss. He is currently two seasons into his career in both sports and he is coming off the bench on both teams.
I think PSU is going to end up remaining with the current DTs on the roster for 2023 season and work to recruit for 2024 & 2025. PITT seems to be able to get lower rated DTs to play @ a high level. Maybe PSU needs to look at HS kids that have the right size but are a lower 4 or 3 star who aren't chasing NIL $.
Maybe but Pitt plays in the ACC which has been an absolute joke. I'll take our DTs over theirs any day.
I guess my point is that with NIL - in which PSU doesn't appear to be a high bidder- the highest rated DTs seem to be chasing the $.
Tangelo was an interesting case. He had very low draft stock coming out of Duke, but he was going into his 5th year and had good size, good stats. He ended up being a big body on a young DL that wasn't quite the same without PJ. Still didn't get drafted, but he filled a role for us.
Another find like him would be great because we need another body at DT with that size. Trill Carter is a less successful version, but I don't even think he's been offered.
Provide depth. Waiting his turn. This is his year to be a bigger part of the rotation. If he doesn't do more than 9 tackles across 13 games, he might be in the portal by January.
You're right. If he doesn't impact this year he probably movs on, but I think he'll improvee in 2023.
Why would he move on when we probably have 1 or 2 above him on the depth chart that are seniors?
Pitt has a DT that is going to be taken in the first round of the upcoming Draft.
What has he done to merit a scholarship?
If we need help at DT and WR then why bring back all the DTs and wrs?
Jan is too late. We need production by Sept.
Give me the high 4* RS freshman two sport athlete for depth.
Bottom line is we need to recruit better at this position. As in a guy who is 290+ in HS who will be over 300 once in our S&C program. I know not alot of those guys out there but we have to find them. As another poster said, maybe a 3 star with the right body frame who could be developed.
For this season, I tend to agree with the POV that we have what we got...."my team is on the floor". I think whomever we could get would just slot into the rotation as a depth guy but realistically be no better than #3 or #4 of all the guys we have. That is not bad and we need depth but we ain't getting a guy at this stage who will be a #1 super stud for us.
For this season, I tend to agree with the POV that we have what we got...."my team is on the floor". I think whomever we could get would just slot into the rotation as a depth guy but realistically be no better than #3 or #4 of all the guys we have. That is not bad and we need depth but we ain't getting a guy at this stage who will be a #1 super stud for us.
We will have much better LB play this year vs Jimmah. Still need the DTs to hold their own and not get steamrolled. Playing at home is huge, maybe a night game White Out on NBC?!!
Most of the guys available are going to have warts, even those who were 4* players coming out of HS. Potential prospects available from lesser programs and leagues (like the MAC, Temple, Lackawanna etc.) just don't usually exist at the DT position, especially the 1 tech. The competition for known commodities at DT is pretty aggressive. You can find effective players at other positions but there are very few 325lb guys who can play DT effectively at the D1 level. Big, strong, quick, powerful, aggressive, athletic, committed football players with decent intellect and a good work ethic are very rare.
I believe Tangelo had very good stats for a DT when he was at Duke, and was at least honorable mention All ACC. In today's transfer "market" Franklin will have a hard time attracting a DT with as much experience and talent as Tangelo had. Seems to me the best bet is a player from a good team that wasn't playing not so much due to lack of talent but more so due to too much talent ahead of him. Unfortunately at this point, with Spring practice over, any incoming player will have limited time to acclimate to PSU's defense which hurts a less experienced player more than it would a player like Tangelo.
A better plan would have been to attract one of the few top 2023 class DT's to PSU, for that player to have already gone through Spring practice, and that player jumping into the rotation this fall. Franklin had that plan but as has been the case most year's lately wasn't able to get a commit from such a player. Going forward it would be great if Barnes improves the DT recruiting so that the roster doesn't get in this position ......
It sounds good, but it doesn't guarantee anything. It's one thing when you are pulling these guys out of HS. It's tougher to verify anything about a player that has very little film compared to a guy who our staff sees every day.
What if neither is ready by September?
Because the developing depth at DT may likely be better than some shot in the dark DT cast off from another program. Show me the clear DT starter or even definite 2nd string and I'm on board with bringing that guy in.
But forcing young developing depth out to bring in young unproven depth is not a smart strategy.
Yet the current offers are to 2 OL (RG, a RG/RT) and a DE (who is 277 and could be at DT here).
I know what was said. We all can see the roster. But it's not as simple as "offer this guy and it's fixed".
Yep "shopping". And a good many shopping experiences come up empty.
Most realists here aren't getting their hopes up for a Tangelo type DT to fall into PSU's lap.
The help may come from Artis or even the incoming 2023 class true freshman DT Blanding.
