ESPN has Penn State VS LSU in Peach on College Football Live

[NittanyLion15]

New Year's Six Projections ... Sign me up for some Peachy Paterno.

#12 PSU VS #10 LSU - Peach (12/29/18)(Sat)
#8 UCF VS #7 Michigan - Fiesta (1/1/19)
#11 Washington VS #6 Ohio State - Rose (1/1/19)
#9 Florida VS #5 Oklahoma - Sugar (1/1/19

#1 Bama
#2 Clemson
#3 Notre Dame
#4 Georgia

 

[2020 is Our Year]

New Year's Six Projections ... Sign me up for some Peachy Paterno.

#12 PSU VS #10 LSU - Peach (12/29/18)(Sat)
#8 UCF VS #7 Michigan - Fiesta (1/1/19)
#11 Washington VS #6 Ohio State - Rose (1/1/19)
#9 Florida VS #5 Oklahoma - Sugar (1/1/19

#1 Bama
#2 Clemson
#3 Notre Dame
#4 Georgia

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There's no way that can be the final 4. I'm not watching 21 minutes of the video to see this but that has to be "if it was today" because Georgia can't finish 4th if Oklahoma and Ohio State both win

 

[PSUdraw]

Well that will change that is if the CPF started today.

 

[fastlax16]

So Georgia is going to beat Bama and Bama is still going to be the one seed? This makes zero sense. There is no chance Georgia loses to bama and gets in over OU and OSU if both win.

 

[NedFromYork]

That's the matchup I want and the bowl I want.

 

[jmorovich]

So Georgia is going to beat Bama and Bama is still going to be the one seed? This makes zero sense. There is no chance Georgia loses to bama and gets in over OU and OSU if both win.

I actually heard multiple people on the radio having this top 4 after UGA loses a close one to Bama. My guess is they are saying UGA loses a close game to Bama and thus makes them the 4th best team over OSU & OU.

Would be interesting because it would be the first 2 loss team in the playoffs and would render the sec conference championship game meaningless. Just can’t see a team losing a conference championship game and still getting in.

This should be viewed as a defacto playoff game. Win and keep playing...lose and your out. But...it is the SEC so...

 

[rohrmd9]

There's no way that can be the final 4. I'm not watching 21 minutes of the video to see this but that has to be "if it was today" because Georgia can't finish 4th if Oklahoma and Ohio State both win

Exactly and if they both lose (the only way Georgia could possibly finish 4th after losing) then OU and OSU won’t be in the Sugar and Rose bowls.

 

[LoyalandTrueLion]

New Year's Six Projections ... Sign me up for some Peachy Paterno.

#12 PSU VS #10 LSU - Peach (12/29/18)(Sat)
#8 UCF VS #7 Michigan - Fiesta (1/1/19)
#11 Washington VS #6 Ohio State - Rose (1/1/19)
#9 Florida VS #5 Oklahoma - Sugar (1/1/19

#1 Bama
#2 Clemson
#3 Notre Dame
#4 Georgia

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serious question were you in L-D in high school?

 

[ryoder1]

I actually heard multiple people on the radio having this top 4 after UGA loses a close one to Bama. My guess is they are saying UGA loses a close game to Bama and thus makes them the 4th best team over OSU & OU.

Would be interesting because it would be the first 2 loss team in the playoffs and would render the sec conference championship game meaningless. Just can’t see a team losing a conference championship game and still getting in.

This should be viewed as a defacto playoff game. Win and keep playing...lose and your out. But...it is the SEC so...

Interesting but will not happen. GA loses and they are out. No way they stay at 4. Well maybe a 7 OT game vs Bama that essentially is a tie game then possibly.

We can still play LSU in Peach but need a GA win against Bama. A OSU win and a OU win.

 

[NittanyLion15]

There's no way that can be the final 4. I'm not watching 21 minutes of the video to see this but that has to be "if it was today" because Georgia can't finish 4th if Oklahoma and Ohio State both win

If you click play, it starts right at the segment where they discuss the rankings. Calm down killer.

 

[NittanyLion15]

serious question were you in L-D in high school?

Indeed. Were you a bully?

 

[LoyalandTrueLion]

Indeed. Were you a bully?

It shows. Guess ya had to stay eligible somehow.

And no just a happy go lucky teenager who was on the smaller side but the tougher side. Pretty much got along with everybody. Sucked when I hit that wedding age.

 

[PSUcup1]

I actually heard multiple people on the radio having this top 4 after UGA loses a close one to Bama. My guess is they are saying UGA loses a close game to Bama and thus makes them the 4th best team over OSU & OU.

Would be interesting because it would be the first 2 loss team in the playoffs and would render the sec conference championship game meaningless. Just can’t see a team losing a conference championship game and still getting in.

This should be viewed as a defacto playoff game. Win and keep playing...lose and your out. But...it is the SEC so...

Herbie was slightly beating that drum yesterday on Golic and Wingo

 

[2020 is Our Year]

I actually heard multiple people on the radio having this top 4 after UGA loses a close one to Bama. My guess is they are saying UGA loses a close game to Bama and thus makes them the 4th best team over OSU & OU.

Would be interesting because it would be the first 2 loss team in the playoffs and would render the sec conference championship game meaningless. Just can’t see a team losing a conference championship game and still getting in.

This should be viewed as a defacto playoff game. Win and keep playing...lose and your out. But...it is the SEC so...

There's no way it should be a "defacto playoff game". Even with a loss Alabama should be and will be in. Georgia can't lose and make the playoffs UNLESS Ohio State and Oklahoma lose. Then, yes, Georgia can be four but that would still make those other matchups incorrect.

The matchups are clearly "as of today" not a projection. I doubt anyone doing a projection has us in unless they have the seeds as 1-Clemson, 2-Georgia, 3-Notre Dame, 4-Bama (something like that) or Ohio State jumping OU to 4.

 

[Nashville Lion]

There's no way that can be the final 4. I'm not watching 21 minutes of the video to see this but that has to be "if it was today" because Georgia can't finish 4th if Oklahoma and Ohio State both win

That reflects standings as of Tuesday....prior to conference title games.

 

[odshowtime]

Whatever happens, I just hope everything is just exactly fair for OSU. It bums me out when they get less than what they earned.

 

[Howie'81]

There's no way it should be a "defacto playoff game". Even with a loss Alabama should be and will be in. Georgia can't lose and make the playoffs UNLESS Ohio State and Oklahoma lose. Then, yes, Georgia can be four but that would still make those other matchups incorrect.

The matchups are clearly "as of today" not a projection. I doubt anyone doing a projection has us in unless they have the seeds as 1-Clemson, 2-Georgia, 3-Notre Dame, 4-Bama (something like that) or Ohio State jumping OU to 4.

Really? Why should a team make the playoffs if they can't even win their conference? Makes no sense when you only get to pick 4 teams.

 

[psugisher]

Really? Why should a team make the playoffs if they can't even win their conference? Makes no sense when you only get to pick 4 teams.

Bama doesn't need to win the conference, the division or have a good non conference schedule. And if they lose it's because they didn't try.

 

[JosephNit]

Bama doesn't need to win the conference, the division or have a good non conference schedule. And if they lose it's because they didn't try.

Correct. Also, 3-loss SEC teams must automatically be ranked in the top-10 because the SEC is the most wonderful conference which everyone knows and if they play pathetic cupcake games in November it's because they've earned it after playing all those tough contests against SEC teams which are all good teams because they're in the SEC which is the best conference as everyone knows.

 

[YorkLion]

Would love to see us play LSU. Don't want another game like last year when we played a team like Washington.

 

[lobo lion]

Would love to see us play LSU. Don't want another game like last year when we played a team like Washington.

Last year's Washington is pretty similar to this year's LSU; slightly better record, better stats, and about the same national ranking.

 

[2020 is Our Year]

Really? Why should a team make the playoffs if they can't even win their conference? Makes no sense when you only get to pick 4 teams.

Because it isn't a requirement. In no sport are all participants conference or division winners. Until all 10 conference winners get in winning a conference is meaningless as far as the top 4. Alabama is unquestionably one of the top 4 teams in the nation and at 12-1 with a loss to a top 3 team that would still be true.

The ONLY reason anyone here believes it should be 4 conference champs is because of 2016. There will be a year when we go 11-1 or 12-1 and deserve to be in the top 4 without a conference title.

 

[psuro]

Could you imagine the Press Conference between Joe and Ed Orgeron? Joe would have had to ask for a translator to understand Coach O.

 

[TheGLOV]

Maybe if we had an actual play-off system, in place, this would all be a moot point, now wouldn't it?

And maybe also is we forced ALL SEC teams to play a football game NORTH of the Mason-Dixon line after Nov. 4th we be able to stop this 2-team SEC bias in the selection committee.

 

[TheGLOV]

That crappy Washington team that PSU had to hold off in the final minute to win the game?

THAT crappy Washington team?


(Apparently some PSU fans have early bedtimes, and never saw any of those Left Coast games last year )

I blame Jay.

 

[2020 is Our Year]

Maybe if we had an actual play-off system, in place, this would all be a moot point, now wouldn't it?

And maybe also is we forced ALL SEC teams to play a football game NORTH of the Mason-Dixon line after Nov. 4th we be able to stop this 2-team SEC bias in the selection committee.

I agree with the first part. The second part isn't possible unless we have a nice little BIg Ten-SEC challenge with every team playing a team on the road in November. Reduce the conference slate to 8 and I'd be on board with that. Give us a much better non-conference schedule

 

[Howie'81]

Because it isn't a requirement. In no sport are all participants conference or division winners. Until all 10 conference winners get in winning a conference is meaningless as far as the top 4. Alabama is unquestionably one of the top 4 teams in the nation and at 12-1 with a loss to a top 3 team that would still be true.

The ONLY reason anyone here believes it should be 4 conference champs is because of 2016. There will be a year when we go 11-1 or 12-1 and deserve to be in the top 4 without a conference title.

Your argument is absurd. Those other sports have far more teams getting into a playoff. In the NFL, for instance, 38 % of all the teams get in. In the NCAA FBS division, it's about 3%. By what bizarre twisted logic can anyone not winning their own flippin' conference be eligible for a national title shot when only 3% of all teams get in? The argument you make that Bama at 12 - 1 is one of the top 4 teams, may or may not be true, but in any event, it's irrelevant. Somebody already bested them for their own conference title so they're out. Totally, totally fair.

 

[2020 is Our Year]

Your argument is absurd. Those other sports have far more teams getting into a playoff. In the NFL, for instance, 38 % of all the teams get in. In the NCAA FBS division, it's about 3%. By what bizarre twisted logic can anyone not winning their own flippin' conference be eligible for a national title shot when only 3% of all teams get in? The argument you make that Bama at 12 - 1 is one of the top 4 teams, may or may not be true, but in any event, it's irrelevant. Somebody already bested them for their own conference title so they're out. Totally, totally fair.

Because when you only have 4 out of 130 teams it is very possible that 2 of those 4 are going to come from the same conference which is why a playoff that only includes approximately 3% of the teams is idiotic. With 130 programs at least 16 should qualify and it should be 24 to put it on par with the rest of the sports. Then all conference champions are included and top teams that play in a stronger conference aren't penalized for it. Someone bested them for their conference and division title last year and they proved on the field that it didn't matter. They were still the best team. Step out of the 70s and this belief that you need to run the table. Alabama at 12-1 (regardless of how much you want to criticize their schedule) beat every team by 20+ prior to losing to a top 4 Georgia team is easily in. They might even be the 2 seed. No one even disputes this outside this board and maybe fans of Ohio State and OU. Just deal with reality. Alabama is elite win or lose on Saturday

 

[psuro]

Because when you only have 4 out of 130 teams it is very possible that 2 of those 4 are going to come from the same conference which is why a playoff that only includes approximately 3% of the teams is idiotic. With 130 programs at least 16 should qualify and it should be 24 to put it on par with the rest of the sports. Then all conference champions are included and top teams that play in a stronger conference aren't penalized for it. Someone bested them for their conference and division title last year and they proved on the field that it didn't matter. They were still the best team. Step out of the 70s and this belief that you need to run the table. Alabama at 12-1 (regardless of how much you want to criticize their schedule) beat every team by 20+ prior to losing to a top 4 Georgia team is easily in. They might even be the 2 seed. No one even disputes this outside this board and maybe fans of Ohio State and OU. Just deal with reality. Alabama is elite win or lose on Saturday

The whole thing is a layer cake of stupidity.

Conference champions, bowl tie ins, and a dozen people sitting in a conference room in Texas making decisions.

 

[2020 is Our Year]

The whole thing is a layer cake of stupidity.

Conference champions, bowl tie ins, and a dozen people sitting in a conference room in Texas making decisions.

Agreed. They need to go to 16 (10 conf winners + 6 at large) or 24 teams. 4 doesn't work. 8 doesn't work. 12 probably doesn't work. But 4 is laughable.

 

[psuro]

Agreed. They need to go to 16 (10 conf winners + 6 at large) or 24 teams. 4 doesn't work. 8 doesn't work. 12 probably doesn't work. But 4 is laughable.

They NEED to get rid of conference tie ins to bowls and they most assuredly need to get rid of the committee process.

The only people who gain anything by this are the talking heads on sports radio and TV.

 

[First Last]

Hopefully one day they'll do five conference champions plus an at large bid determined by committee. Two best teams as determined by committee get first round bye, but a conference non-champion cannot receive a first round bye. Until the NCAA adopts something like that, I'll not watch any playoff games other than Penn State.

 

[Howie'81]

Because when you only have 4 out of 130 teams it is very possible that 2 of those 4 are going to come from the same conference which is why a playoff that only includes approximately 3% of the teams is idiotic. With 130 programs at least 16 should qualify and it should be 24 to put it on par with the rest of the sports. Then all conference champions are included and top teams that play in a stronger conference aren't penalized for it. Someone bested them for their conference and division title last year and they proved on the field that it didn't matter. They were still the best team. Step out of the 70s and this belief that you need to run the table. Alabama at 12-1 (regardless of how much you want to criticize their schedule) beat every team by 20+ prior to losing to a top 4 Georgia team is easily in. They might even be the 2 seed. No one even disputes this outside this board and maybe fans of Ohio State and OU. Just deal with reality. Alabama is elite win or lose on Saturday

Dude, your rant is meaningless. They eliminated themselves by not taking their conference title. I don't need to step out of the 70s or any other decade to make this argument. It has zero, nada, zilch to do with being undefeated or not. You can't win your own conference, you don't get a shot at the national title. Until playoffs are expanded, that absolutely should be standard operating procedure. The very fact that you needed to blather on so much shows how convoluted your argument is. Period. End of discussion. Oh, one other thing, just because Bama got in last year and won, does not logically mean they deserved the shot. Most teams in the top 10 can get hot and win it given the chance. They didn't earn the chance by losing their conference. You have to earn the shot, not have it given to you. Win your damn conference.

 

[PSUFBFAN]

Agreed. They need to go to 16 (10 conf winners + 6 at large) or 24 teams. 4 doesn't work. 8 doesn't work. 12 probably doesn't work. But 4 is laughable.

"They need to go to 16 (10 conf winners + 6 at large) or 24 teams. 4 doesn't work. 8 doesn't work. 12 probably doesn't work."

Now, that's laughable.

 

[PSUFBFAN]

Hopefully one day they'll do five conference champions plus an at large bid determined by committee. Two best teams as determined by committee get first round bye, but a conference non-champion cannot receive a first round bye. Until the NCAA adopts something like that, I'll not watch any playoff games other than Penn State.

"Two best teams as determined by committee get first round bye"

That will certainly eliminate any controversy.

 

[2020 is Our Year]

"They need to go to 16 (10 conf winners + 6 at large) or 24 teams. 4 doesn't work. 8 doesn't work. 12 probably doesn't work."

Now, that's laughable.

It's true. Name another collegiate sport where that small of a percent of teams get in. Unless FBS is split into 2 levels you need at least 16 or some teams, like UCF, start with no chance even if they run the table. That can't exist. If you're going to include conference champions ALL must be included.

 

[YorkLion]

That crappy Washington team that PSU had to hold off in the final minute to win the game?

THAT crappy Washington team?


(Apparently some PSU fans have early bedtimes, and never saw any of those Left Coast games last year )

I always prefer to play a higher ranked team than one that is lower. I want competition, not a team that I can pad my stats on. And I really don't think Washington was all that good last year.