Excellent article on Penn State going forward

[Nbergbuck]

Penn State hiring Jim Knowles the latest step on hard road that hopefully ends in national title

Welcome to the grind of brutal losses and soul searching, Penn State. No team avoids it on the road to the national title.

www.yahoo.com

I do disagree with the author on 1 point. Losing Knowles does not necessarily weaken OSU. For one thing, it is rumored there was discord among OSU coaches. This should end it. Otherwise, a great article.

 

[PSU4U]

Penn State hiring Jim Knowles the latest step on hard road that hopefully ends in national title

Welcome to the grind of brutal losses and soul searching, Penn State. No team avoids it on the road to the national title.

www.yahoo.com

I do disagree with the author on 1 point. Losing Knowles does not necessarily weaken OSU. For one thing, it is rumored there was discord among OSU coaches. This should end it. Otherwise, a great article.

Traitor LJ wins OSU loses just MO.

 

[SR108]

Penn State hiring Jim Knowles the latest step on hard road that hopefully ends in national title

Welcome to the grind of brutal losses and soul searching, Penn State. No team avoids it on the road to the national title.

www.yahoo.com

I do disagree with the author on 1 point. Losing Knowles does not necessarily weaken OSU. For one thing, it is rumored there was discord among OSU coaches. This should end it. Otherwise, a great article.

We will see ……

Unfortunately this team under James, (and I support James), has shown an uncanny ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

 

[WaffleShopper]

I'm wondering when we can stop pretending Michigan's national championship is some kind of model of hard work and perseverance.

 

[PSUNYGNYY]

Penn State hiring Jim Knowles the latest step on hard road that hopefully ends in national title

Welcome to the grind of brutal losses and soul searching, Penn State. No team avoids it on the road to the national title.

www.yahoo.com

I do disagree with the author on 1 point. Losing Knowles does not necessarily weaken OSU. For one thing, it is rumored there was discord among OSU coaches. This should end it. Otherwise, a great article.

Losing the best DC in the country to your rival and PSU getting a huge upgrade at DC along with all the inside info on OSU doesn’t weaken OSU? Got it.

 

[Nbergbuck]

Here is what you may not get. As far as Knowles goes, it's not necessarily the disaster it appears. OSU's safeties coach (Guerrari sp?) has worked with Knowles for years and knows his system. He is supposedly in serious consideration for DC. What weakens OSU is the loss of so many talented veteran's, especially on D. At this point they only return 2 starters on defense.

 

[Obliviax]

Losing the best DC in the country to your rival and PSU getting a huge upgrade at DC along with all the inside info on OSU doesn’t weaken OSU? Got it.

It is funny to me that the media, Herbie and everyone involved with tOSU were singing Knowles praises until he decided to leave. I guess it is no different than us losing a kid to the portal and saying he wasn't that good anyway.

Regardless, the guy is very highly thought of throughout the college football world. And it sends a signal to anyone not brain dead.

 

[PSUNYGNYY]

Here is what you may not get. As far as Knowles goes, it's not necessarily the disaster it appears. OSU's safeties coach (Guerrari sp?) has worked with Knowles for years and knows his system. He is supposedly in serious consideration for DC. What weakens OSU is the loss of so many talented veteran's, especially on D. At this point they only return 2 starters on defense.

Here’s what you don’t get. I never said it was a disaster and I know your safeties coach is well regarded, but not acknowledging that it doesn’t weaken OSU just shows that you can’t see through your rose colored glasses or in this case your scarlet colored glasses. Guerrieri is definitely an up and comer and him being mentored by Knowles going back to Duke should help to make it a smooth transition. OSU does lose a lot on D and that will also be a factor if OSU takes a step back on D. Knowles is considered the best DC is CFB and losing him isn’t a plus as you like to paint it. We still have holes at LB and on the Dline so Knowles may not be able to get us over the hump, but he’s an upgrade over Allen and the knowledge about OSU and Kelly’s O is immeasurable. But your right OSU is better off without Knowles and is probably stronger.

 

[The Spin Meister]

Here is what you may not get. As far as Knowles goes, it's not necessarily the disaster it appears. OSU's safeties coach (Guerrari sp?) has worked with Knowles for years and knows his system. He is supposedly in serious consideration for DC. What weakens OSU is the loss of so many talented veteran's, especially on D. At this point they only return 2 starters on defense.

Could be one reason he left. He knows the D will take a step down, maybe two steps. So get out now before your reputation takes a hit.

Have seen other coaches do the same.

 

[Nbergbuck]

Here’s what you don’t get. I never said it was a disaster and I know your safeties coach is well regarded, but not acknowledging that it doesn’t weaken OSU just shows that you can’t see through your rose colored glasses or in this case your scarlet colored glasses. Guerrieri is definitely an up and comer and him being mentored by Knowles going back to Duke should help to make it a smooth transition. OSU does lose a lot on D and that will also be a factor if OSU takes a step back on D. Knowles is considered the best DC is CFB and losing him isn’t a plus as you like to paint it. We still have holes at LB and on the Dline so Knowles may not be able to get us over the hump, but he’s an upgrade over Allen and the knowledge about OSU and Kelly’s O is immeasurable. But your right OSU is better off without Knowles and is probably stronger.

OSU does not win the NC without a defense that was as good as it was. Knowles was the DC. I never said losing him is an upgrade, it is not. I said that it is not necessarily a disaster. Whatever, time will tell. The PSU - OSU in Columbus next year will be huge. I actually like Penn State in that one at this point. Another factor is the fact that OSU will probably be starting a QB who has no starting experience at this point. If you notice, the teams that go deep in the playoffs generally have a QB with multiple years of starting experience. Allar is a good example.

 

[Wallace Breen]

Losing the best DC in the country to your rival and PSU getting a huge upgrade at DC along with all the inside info on OSU doesn’t weaken OSU? Got it.

Knowles isn't the best DC in the country. He probably isn't top ten either. OSU will almost certainly hire a top five DC when all is said and done. Knowles is probably a lateral move from Allen.

 

[sdwcpa]

There are 2 points here.
The first one is: Did PSU make a statement with this hire Absolutely!!
The second one is: Was it the best move for a team that is in the same Natty or bust mode for 2025 that OSU was in for 2024?
The answer to that is not as clear.
At both OSU stops the defense left a lot to be desired in the first year.
I will leave you with this stat.
Before this year’s playoff run I think we can all agree that the 4 most important games that OSU played were the 3 Michigan games and the playoff game against Georgia.
In those 4 games COMBINED the OSU defense did not force a single Fourth Quarter punt.

 

[knickslions]

Knowles isn't the best DC in the country. He probably isn't top ten either. OSU will almost certainly hire a top five DC when all is said and done. Knowles is probably a lateral move from Allen.

You make Lando look like a rocket scientist

 

[PSUPride1]

Knowles isn't the best DC in the country. He probably isn't top ten either. OSU will almost certainly hire a top five DC when all is said and done. Knowles is probably a lateral move from Allen.

Boy he's fooling a lot of programs with his average DC ability. Thanks for that insight.

 

[PSUPride1]

OSU does not win the NC without a defense that was as good as it was. Knowles was the DC. I never said losing him is an upgrade, it is not. I said that it is not necessarily a disaster. Whatever, time will tell. The PSU - OSU in Columbus next year will be huge. I actually like Penn State in that one at this point. Another factor is the fact that OSU will probably be starting a QB who has no starting experience at this point. If you notice, the teams that go deep in the playoffs generally have a QB with multiple years of starting experience. Allar is a good example.

You'll get a great DC. You're the favorite until Penn State stops choking in big games.

 

[Wallace Breen]

Boy he's fooling a lot of programs with his average DC ability. Thanks for that insight.

I never said he was average. I said he wasn't the best, and I don't think he is. He is still very good, just as Allen is a very good DC. The only message we sent is that we are willing to overpay for coaches at each level and rarely hold them accountable for performance. We do it with position coaches. We do it with the head coach, now we do it with our coordinators.

 

[KFM74]

Anyone really think this will change the outcome on 11/1/25?

 

[bdroc]

OSU does not win the NC without a defense that was as good as it

Knowles had 5* defenders like

Tuimoloau and Downs to work with. Are you sure it was the coaching?

 

[PSU20]

Just for once I'd like to see PSU's OL move the Buckeyes DL off the LOS. Our OL has enough talent and experience that making the initial block at the LOS and then getting to the second level should be routine. But, this has not been the case for years. It gets embarrassing having PSU getting stopped time and again at the LOS by OSU's front four with LJ on the sideline enjoying every bit of it.

 

[Nbergbuck]

Knowles had 5* defenders like

Tuimoloau and Downs to work with. Are you sure it was the coaching?

It was both.

 

[ryoder1]

Here is what you may not get. As far as Knowles goes, it's not necessarily the disaster it appears. OSU's safeties coach (Guerrari sp?) has worked with Knowles for years and knows his system. He is supposedly in serious consideration for DC. What weakens OSU is the loss of so many talented veteran's, especially on D. At this point they only return 2 starters on defense.

You will reload of course and we will manage to make OSU's defense look like the '85 Chicago Bears when we play in Columbus next season. Day completely owns Franklin.

 

[The Spin Meister]

Knowles isn't the best DC in the country. He probably isn't top ten either. OSU will almost certainly hire a top five DC when all is said and done. Knowles is probably a lateral move from Allen.

Well what do expect? Franklin sucks. We suck. The administration sucks. Anyone he hires sucks.

Just simple facts.😞

 

[The Spin Meister]

I never said he was average. I said he wasn't the best, and I don't think he is. He is still very good, just as Allen is a very good DC. The only message we sent is that we are willing to overpay for coaches at each level and rarely hold them accountable for performance. We do it with position coaches. We do it with the head coach, now we do it with our coordinators.

We live consistency !

 

[olelion]

Here is what you may not get. As far as Knowles goes, it's not necessarily the disaster it appears. OSU's safeties coach (Guerrari sp?) has worked with Knowles for years and knows his system. He is supposedly in serious consideration for DC. What weakens OSU is the loss of so many talented veteran's, especially on D. At this point they only return 2 starters on defense.

The loss of various players never seems to weaken OSU

 

[The Spin Meister]

The loss of various players never seems to weaken OSU

That happens when you have 6-7 four or five star players at every position 🤷🏻‍♀️

 

[SR108]

That happens when you have 6-7 four or five star players at every position 🤷🏻‍♀️

The only issue will be early season inexperience and mental mistakes inhibiting their ability to play fast. By the time we play them, it won’t be an issue. And they will have the best WR room in the country.

 

[PSU4U]

The loss of various players never seems to weaken OSU

They rarely rebuild on any part of their team they just seem to reload. Nobody (imo) recruits better than OSU. Hopefully that begins to change.

BTW with or without Knowles I'm glad Allen is gone.