FC: Alleged JS victim demands new charges from OAG
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Is there any chance that a different trial on new charges would somehow be useful into merely shedding light onto the whole sad situation, with respect to the way the first trial was conducted? Not so much to make ol' Jerry innocent, but to reveal the political forces behind the fact that the trial was clearly not quite kosher?
For the record, I'm sure he's guilty. I just think the janitor was bullshit, Amendola was tainted, the judge was taken care of, etc etc etc. Doesn't mean that JS is not guilty.
However, it is part and parcel to the entire situation whereby not just JS, but everybody else, was railroaded by Corbett and the system. Too many people focus just on JS.
However, it is part and parcel to the entire situation whereby not just JS, but everybody else, was railroaded by Corbett and the system. Too many people focus just on JS.
I absolutely agree. Some people just can't deal with the gray areas between Jerry is guilty and Jerry is innocent.
Looks like Mr. Spinelli has quite a background. Also, brother Scott is Asst Basketball coach at BC
same guy?
082500 No bail for football star in slay rap
By Doug Hanchett
Friday, August 25, 2000
FITCHBURG - A former Leominster High gridiron star who prosecutors say pummeled a Laotian immigrant to death three weeks ago because the man owed his girlfriend money for sex was ordered held without bail yesterday by Fitchburg District Court Judge Andrew J. Mandell. At his arraignment yesterday, Anthony J. Spinelli Jr., 28, pleaded innocent to charges he murdered 47-year-old Virachack Aroungthong Aug. 6.
Afterward, Spinelli's attorney, Leonard Staples, said his client is angry that his girlfriend, Lisa Finneran, has been charged with prostitution in the case.
"He's disputing the allegations, that they were somehow involved in some sort of sexual confrontation," said Staples. "He's pretty upset about that." Finneran, previously arraigned with Spinelli on a charge of larceny over $250 as well as engaging in sex for a fee in connection with the case, pleaded innocent yesterday to being an accessory after the murder and was ordered held on $50,000 cash bail.
An autopsy done Aug. 12 - the day after Aroungthong's body was found in his Day Street apartment - determined he died from blunt force trauma to the head. K. Thirakoun, a niece of Aroungthong's who was in the courtroom yesterday, described her uncle, who came here from Laos in 1980 - as a part-time musician who had moved into the apartment a month earlier after battling substance abuse.
082500 No bail for football star in slay rap
By Doug Hanchett
Friday, August 25, 2000
FITCHBURG - A former Leominster High gridiron star who prosecutors say pummeled a Laotian immigrant to death three weeks ago because the man owed his girlfriend money for sex was ordered held without bail yesterday by Fitchburg District Court Judge Andrew J. Mandell. At his arraignment yesterday, Anthony J. Spinelli Jr., 28, pleaded innocent to charges he murdered 47-year-old Virachack Aroungthong Aug. 6.
Afterward, Spinelli's attorney, Leonard Staples, said his client is angry that his girlfriend, Lisa Finneran, has been charged with prostitution in the case.
"He's disputing the allegations, that they were somehow involved in some sort of sexual confrontation," said Staples. "He's pretty upset about that." Finneran, previously arraigned with Spinelli on a charge of larceny over $250 as well as engaging in sex for a fee in connection with the case, pleaded innocent yesterday to being an accessory after the murder and was ordered held on $50,000 cash bail.
An autopsy done Aug. 12 - the day after Aroungthong's body was found in his Day Street apartment - determined he died from blunt force trauma to the head. K. Thirakoun, a niece of Aroungthong's who was in the courtroom yesterday, described her uncle, who came here from Laos in 1980 - as a part-time musician who had moved into the apartment a month earlier after battling substance abuse.
maybe the article isn't accurate on the age, but it does say he was a high school football star from Mass??
It's accurate. The article is from 2000 and it says he was 28. That means the perp was born in 1971 or 1972.
Article from today I just read says he's 43 now.
Your 2000 article says he was 28 in 2000 when he killed someone, which would make him 43 today. Ages match.
well I am also an engineer, which means I cannot add, subtract, multiply, or divide without a calculator
Who cares about the gray area? Does it matter about the janitor? The guy was a monster and is where he belongs.
This is a waste of $$ and time and please don't give me this crap about his right to due process. Jerry lost his rights when he messed with little kids.
No I guess not.. a witness with Alzheimer's trying to recall something that happened ten years earlier while he was employed at PSU (but really wasn't) doesn't matter one bit. :/
“Mr. Spinelli was a victim of Jerry Sandusky in 1988 while attending a Pennsylvania State University football camp sponsored by the university,”
"The complaint alleges that Sandusky coerced Spinelli into sexual acts on two different days in a Penn State office and locker room."
They made certain to connect the alleged abuse to the university so they could open the pocket book. No only does it not make sense that Jerry was abusing kids (alleged worse abuse than 2001) in public places at all, let alone back then, location is irrelevant since no one at PSU found about until much later.
This is the worst part of the article:
“Since that time, our client’s life went from a life of athletic promise to spiraling out of control, from being recruited as a top quarterback for schools like Michigan, Syracuse and Penn State. His life spiraled into a life of drugs, alcohol and criminal activity.”
This statement in general is just ridiculous. Also, Syracuse doesn't get top quarterbacks.
In closing, thank again B.O.T.!
well I am also an engineer, which means I cannot add, subtract, multiply, or divide without a calculator
According to an idiot on PL who alleges to be one, engineers also don't lie.
Ignoring the gray area is where much of the collateral damage occurs,
either JS was a saint or he was the obvious devil that people deliberately ignored,
there was nothing to do or things not done by others.
well I am also an engineer, which means I cannot add, subtract, multiply, or divide without a calculator
HONESTY
Engineers are always honest in matters of technology and human relationships.
That's why it's a good idea to keep engineers away from customers, romantic interests, and other people who can't handle the truth.
Engineers sometimes bend the truth to avoid work.
They say things that sound like lies but technically are not because nobody could be expected to believe them
.
The complete list of engineer lies is listed below.
- "I won't change anything without asking you first."
- "I'll return your hard-to-find cable tomorrow."
- "I have to have new equipment to do my job."
- "I'm not jealous of your new computer."
Calling it a gray area is a bit of a stretch when it comes to his innocence. I'll concede maybe off white, but it's not really gray at all. Let's put it like this, gray area equates to about a 50% chance the man is innocent. In reality that number is more like .0005% that he never molested a child.
That being said I have no real idea if this latest allegation is legit at all.
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don't forgetHONESTY
Engineers are always honest in matters of technology and human relationships.
That's why it's a good idea to keep engineers away from customers, romantic interests, and other people who can't handle the truth.
Engineers sometimes bend the truth to avoid work.
They say things that sound like lies but technically are not because nobody could be expected to believe them
.
The complete list of engineer lies is listed below.
- "I won't change anything without asking you first."
- "I'll return your hard-to-find cable tomorrow."
- "I have to have new equipment to do my job."
- "I'm not jealous of your new computer."
5.) we have to have a custom designed and fabricated part, I couldn't find anything that works in any of the parts catalogs or in house database ;-)
that goes along with, "if it doesn't fit, force it. if it breaks, you needed a new one anyway"
To the engineer, all matter in the universe can be placed into one of two categories: (1)things that need to be fixed, and (2)things that will need to be fixed after you've had a few minutes to play with them. Engineers like to solve problems. If there are no problems handily available, they will create their own problems. Normal people don't understand this concept; they believe that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Engineers believe that if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.
Whether this guy is due his day in court or not, I found it interesting that the AP jumped on this faster than Sara Ganim at the all you can eat buffet.
Very little on the court cases to date on the AP wire. Local stations probably can't repackage the details I suppose so it doesn't matter. But this guy's claims resulted in "A New Claim of Abuse at Penn State!" Story at 11 on our local tv news.
According to other idiots, on another site, we "all have the right to demand from the government".
The gray areas to me gotes beyond JS's straight guilt or innocence to include others, who know what and what they reasonably should have done.
Applying the narrow black-white categorization did more harm to those connected, even informally to JS in his interactions with the suspected victims.
I have no doubt JS has extreme personal issues. I am not certain to what degree, with whom, how often, and who knew details about these actions.
just a few thoughts. . . .
the child protection system in PA clearly failed these kids, is clearly still broken, yet was never held accountable for its failures in regards to the victims of Sandusky. exploring the "gray area" as opposed to accepting his "sentence" and moving on allows us to reexamine these failures.
I also think I am intelligent enough to question WHY, if Sandusky was such an overwhelming monster, the prosecutors and investigators had to resort to so many unethical acts to convict him. I find it weird that people who are so convinced of his guilt want to just ignore the travesty of justice that went into his conviction, to the point they do not even want to question why it was even necessary to resort to such bush league legal tactics.
it indicates to me 2 things: the real villains are still at large, and there is a systematic effort to protect them
the "who cares? Jerry is guilty crowd!" appear (to me at least) to want the system to stay broken, and for the corruption to stay in place. this serves past and future victims HOW??
funny . . . the people who feel the need to constantly speak "for the kids" seem to be doing them the most harm . . .
the child protection system in PA clearly failed these kids, is clearly still broken, yet was never held accountable for its failures in regards to the victims of Sandusky. exploring the "gray area" as opposed to accepting his "sentence" and moving on allows us to reexamine these failures.
I also think I am intelligent enough to question WHY, if Sandusky was such an overwhelming monster, the prosecutors and investigators had to resort to so many unethical acts to convict him. I find it weird that people who are so convinced of his guilt want to just ignore the travesty of justice that went into his conviction, to the point they do not even want to question why it was even necessary to resort to such bush league legal tactics.
it indicates to me 2 things: the real villains are still at large, and there is a systematic effort to protect them
the "who cares? Jerry is guilty crowd!" appear (to me at least) to want the system to stay broken, and for the corruption to stay in place. this serves past and future victims HOW??
funny . . . the people who feel the need to constantly speak "for the kids" seem to be doing them the most harm . . .
The system is not perfect now nor has it ever been. Not in PA, any state, or any country anywhere on this planet. It's a sad reality that there is no perfect full proof system yet on this planet. I don't think anyone is opposed to trying to correct a broken of flawed system either. Far from it, but some people aren't using a serial pedophile as the poster child for a broken judicial system. Better cases exist out there where truly innocent people were thrown into prison. Oddly enough the one doing the most "for the kids" was using it as a front to consistently abuse them. There is a ton of irony on both instances, but not everyone wants to hear or believe he is guilty.
"Jerry lost his rights when he messed with little kids."
Did you really just write that? That wasn't a typo of some sort?
