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FC: KDR brother anonymously defends fraternity - link **

mn78psu83

mn78psu83

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This part is a bit bemusing and amusing:

In the interview, the fraternity brother elaborated on his statement,
explaining that he isn't aware of any similar Facebook groups operated
by other fraternities. He said that "everybody fools around … [and]
engages in what might be considered inappropriate behavior. … Like back
in the Middle Ages, they would find a witch or somebody who the
community thought was a witch or something like that and toss them to
the crowd, you know? When the person's no different than anyone else."

This post was edited on 3/19 10:41 PM by mn78psu83

A satirical site?
 
Anonymous is he? Coward. You know the one group that was

seldom if ever stoned or burned as witches? Riiight. White men like him.

Look kid: if your friends or you took pictures of naked sleeping women and posted them on Facebook for 150 of your buddies to gawk at, that ain't "satircal." Its criminal.

That excerpt is Terrell Pryor-esque. Everybody does it? Really? Well, since it is a crime, then I guess they will have to go to jail.

This episode has revealed some rotten things at the core up there.
 
I often wonder if this type of anonymous source exists anywhere outside the imagination of the writer or if they even verified their affiliation to the frat. This is so far out there it makes me question the authenticity.
 
Yeah we would hate to see a demonstration of the fact that some of them

actually, even now, think this conduct is justified. psualt raises a good point, too--maybe he is not even in the frat.

But while the ignorance of the frat boys may get them in trouble, the women Greek group telling ITS members to "walk away from reporters" is a TERRIBLE idea, as evidenced by the fact that the President of Panhellenic has now said she did not send the "don't talk to reporters" email. From Onward State



Both the Interfraternity Council and the Panhellenic Council have requested that fraternity and sorority members fights, binge drinking, and the likes are commonly connected to Greek Life. But as a sorority woman, a Facebook page where fraternity members post photos of nude women is particularly scary for me. It could have been my sisters in those photos. It could have been my best friends. It could have been me.


For any chapter to direct members to direct members not to comment on something like this that so profoundly affects our lives is inappropriate, and in poor taste. Although I was instructed to not condemn KDR as a Greek woman, as a Penn State woman I feel compelled to share how these abhorrent acts fit into and impact our university community. This is an experience many Penn State women are going through, and we deserve to talk about it.


As a Penn State woman, I'm angry. This is an embarrassment to Penn State and Greek Life.


http://onwardstate.com/2015/03/19/with-kdr-in-the-limelight-its-time-for-penn-state-women-to-be-treated-better/
 
agreed. who knows? as penn staters, it is clear that

corruption and deception have no bounds. I agree with Barron on this one: handle it like an isolated incident, do your investigation, address those that are guilty, review the overall program to make sure its not systemic.

I am 100% sure that this is getting more exposure because of JS and its Penn State. If you google it, you will find tons of "greek" issues nationwide, yet, read little about it.
 
This is so far out there it makes me question the authenticity.

That crossed my mind too.
 
Re: Anonymous is he? Coward. You know the one group that was

Why don't you chill out on the racist hate. Makes you sound like a jerk off.
 
Re: Anonymous is he? Coward. You know the one group that was

Why don't you chill out on the racist hate. Makes you sound like a jerk off.
 
I'll take that as a 'No". So why was it okay to tell women

in this case not to talk to reporters? You were all in favor of it. Explain your preferred culture of silence approach. yeah that is not gonna ring any bells with people about PSU, is it?

Now that the directive/request has been rescinded, do you still wish to defend it? Or will you just continue to blame the victims?
 
Re: I'll take that as a 'No". So why was it okay to tell women


I don't really recall commenting on that, but maybe I did. I think its generally better for PSU to limit discussion before the facts are all in, but whatever.

As to victim blaming, funny thing is, that when I read the comments to some of the articles about this matter, there were a lot posted by PSU coeds. Guess what a lot of them said? Yup, you guessed it: fraternities can be fun but don't party until you pass out. This is something that even idiots, except you, know.
 
There are a million porn sites out there with photos like this but the media doesn't care about those. I'm not saying the frat guys shouldn't be punished but this kid is correct in saying the media only cares about the Frat doing it because it's a juicier story that will get them ratings.

It's how the modern media works. Gilbert Gottfried built a whole career spouting off color, distasteful jokes and nobody cared....until suddenly they did. There is usually no logic behind when and who the media(social media) lynch mob will pounce on.
 
Yours is the second jackass comment of this sort, so I will respond to it.

Some women engage in victim blaming behavior and speech. Sexual assault, invasion of privacy robbery, murder, almost any crime you can name, some women commit it. So what? Victim blaming does not become ok just because a woman does it.

The person who suggests that in a public discussion of this sort of crime, we need to say things like "it would not have happened if she were not drunk," is blaming the victim. There is a place for that sort of warning, and it is not in a public discussion of this event. And it does not matter WHO does it, man or woman, that is still what it is.
 
Re: Yours is the second jackass comment of this sort, so I will respond to it.

Originally posted by demlion:
Some women engage in victim blaming behavior and speech. Sexual assault, invasion of privacy robbery, murder, almost any crime you can name, some women commit it. So what? Victim blaming does not become ok just because a woman does it.

The person who suggests that in a public discussion of this sort of crime, we need to say things like "it would not have happened if she were not drunk," is blaming the victim. There is a place for that sort of warning, and it is not in a public discussion of this event. And it does not matter WHO does it, man or woman, that is still what it is.
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You guys are just ridiculous. There is a clear distinction between being accusatory (it wouldn't have happened it you hadn't done X) and cautionary (don't do X or something might happen).

I understand that it makes you feel righteous to play the white knight and complain on the internet about "victim blaming" and "white/frat boy privilege" but try to actually focus on the facts instead of cheap slogans. You would sound less dumb.
 
Yeah, thanks for the advice. Keep denying it. It makes you look good.*


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Re: Anonymous is he? Coward. You know the one group that was


I agree. This guy has so much white guilt, he must be the great grandson of Jeff Davis.
 
Originally posted by NJPSU:

There are a million porn sites out there with photos like this but the media doesn't care about those. I'm not saying the frat guys shouldn't be punished but this kid is correct in saying the media only cares about the Frat doing it because it's a juicier story that will get them ratings.

It's how the modern media works. Gilbert Gottfried built a whole career spouting off color, distasteful jokes and nobody cared....until suddenly they did. There is usually no logic behind when and who the media(social media) lynch mob will pounce on.
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What the heck is wrong with you if you can't see the difference between porn and unsuspecting women having their photo taken by their "date" and plastered on the Internet?
 
Re: I'll take that as a 'No". So why was it okay to tell women

Originally posted by Pardlion:

As to victim blaming, funny thing is, that when I read the comments to some of the articles about this matter, there were a lot posted by PSU coeds. Guess what a lot of them said? Yup, you guessed it: fraternities can be fun but don't party until you pass out. This is something that even idiots, except you, know.
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So to summarize the above post, it's fun to go to fraternity parties, but if you're a woman and you are stupid enough to pass out at one, you have no one but yourself to fault if something bad happens to you. Even idiots know that.

Thanks for the sage advice.
 
Re: I'll take that as a 'No". So why was it okay to tell women

Um, no, that's not a summary of what I said. First of all, what I said was quite short and your "summary" was longer. Second, your "summary" doesn't even restate what I said. It's just an inflammatory statement that you made and tried to attribute to me.

Let's make a deal: since you're not very bright, don't purport to "summarize" me with your own little inflammatory straw man arguments. It's not clever and it makes you seem like a dick.
 
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