FC/OT: Avengers Endgame...

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Currently on a Disney Cruise (began today, ends Sunday) and it was announced we’ll get to see Endgame beginning tomorrow night. I am going to see Captain Marvel in a few and hope they pull a switcharoo - will report back once we dock tomorrow. Can’t wait for this!

 

[Sproul]

You paying $40 a day for internet on Disney cruise lines and you’re spending in on bwi? Oof

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

You paying $40 a day for internet on Disney cruise lines and you’re spending in on bwi? Oof

First day is free! Will only log on in port after this.

 

[mgkpsu]

 

[rudedude]

Good luck to all the Starks this weekend!

 

[NedFromYork]

Saw it last night, was good, enjoyed it. Thor was hilarious, Captain America scene in the elevator with "Shield" was terrific. Will be interesting what the next story arc will be, maybe hints in the next Spiderman movie. Quite the accomplishment 12 years and 22 movies.

 

[fastlax16]

Great movie with the exception of the scene near the end where they completely disregard the time travel rules set earlier in the movie.

 

[NedFromYork]

Great movie with the exception of the scene near the end where they completely disregard the time travel rules set earlier in the movie.

Explain, missed that or didn't think about it.

 

[RU31trap]

My son and daughter went to see the movie, I think they’ve seen all of the movies. They said it was great.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Explain, missed that or didn't think about it.

SPOILERS

Might have to do with Gamorra being able to avoid her death and live in the present while Tony and Black Widow are dead. Would think you could go in the past and bring both of them to the future. Maybe not BW because of the nature of how she died, but Tony. Unless he’s referring to what happened with Cap, who went back to the past and lived an entire lifetime in a matter of seconds. I loved everything either way. Was fantastic in 3D.

 

[fastlax16]

Explain, missed that or didn't think about it.

Captain went back in time, lived his life and showed up in the same timeline. His decision to stay back in the past should have put him on a new timeline from the one he left, rendering it impossible for him to show up on a bench by the lake as an old man. He was putting stones back in their correct timelines, not earlier versions of his own.

 

[NedFromYork]

SPOILER

I think Gamora being able to come back to present was because bad Nebula had the locator from good Nebula and was brought back to present at the end of the mission with small Thanos ship and crew. Gotcha on old Cap though.

Captain America elevator scene was fantastic, the looks on the faces when he whispered "Hail Hydra" was classic.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Captain went back in time, lived his life and showed up in the same timeline. His decision to stay back in the past should have put him on a new timeline from the one he left, rendering it impossible for him to show up on a bench by the lake as an old man. He was putting stones back in their correct timelines, not earlier versions of their own.

Didn’t they say your current present is your future? So Cap is in the same timeline I think. Should be two of him though.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Captain went back in time, lived his life and showed up in the same timeline. His decision to stay back in the past should have put him on a new timeline from the one he left, rendering it impossible for him to show up on a bench by the lake as an old man. He was putting stones back in their correct timelines, not earlier versions of their own.

They weren’t different timelines though - just different years of the same timeline.

 

[fastlax16]

Didn’t they say your current present is your future? So Cap is in the same timeline I think. Should be two of him though.

They say you can’t change your future. If he went back and married Peggy, as implied, then she no longer marries whoever she has kids with in the previous movies. You then also have two captains and Steve has to have sat on the sidelines the last 70 years knowing about all the events we’ve watched unfold without interfering.

 

[BBrown]

They say you can’t change your future. If he went back and married Peggy, as implied, then she no longer marries whoever she has kids with in the previous movies. You then also have two captains and Steve has to have sat on the sidelines the last 70 years knowing about all the events we’ve watched unfold without interfering.

So much for the Butterfly effect.
I'm not a fan of "timeline" stories. To me its just an easy way out of something. Like "wow didn't think that character we killed off was going to be so popular, we need them back in the next movie".
But I get it, hell the entire Flash franchise is based on it.

 

[fastlax16]

They weren’t different timelines though - just different years of the same timeline.

And it’s different timelines, that’s how Loki escaping w the tesseract and captain America kicking his own ass don’t impact the future. That was covered in the whole “back to the future is bullshit” convo between hulk and Lang

 

[interrobang]

You paying $40 a day for internet on Disney cruise lines and you’re spending in on bwi? Oof

For as ridiculously expensive as Disney cruises are, what's another $40?

 

[rudedude]

They time traveled via the quantum realm, which is not typical time travel, I guess?

 

[anon_1eeb2b426hv3y]

For as ridiculously expensive as Disney cruises are, what's another $40?

That extra 40 is waaaay more costly, since these pricey Disney Cruises are VACATIONS. I pay the 40 bucks, I’m still working while paying waaay too much for a break.

 

[doctornick]

Captain went back in time, lived his life and showed up in the same timeline. His decision to stay back in the past should have put him on a new timeline from the one he left, rendering it impossible for him to show up on a bench by the lake as an old man. He was putting stones back in their correct timelines, not earlier versions of his own.

The director's explained that he actually time jumped from his alternative timeline with Peggy to the mainstream timeline to meet at the lake.

When he was in the 1970's and grabbed the extra Pym Particles, they made it a point to show that he grabbed four when they only needed two. And this comes into play later because after returning the infinity stones, he jumped to the 1940's (married Peggy) and then to the end scene using those two extra vials.

 

[mmp121]

If that is the case, it would have been nice to show a quick glimpse of the 2 extra vials in the suitcase he used to return the stones.

 

[Hugh Manatee]

Explain, missed that or didn't think about it.

Something else they do is refer to time and Earth years as if it’s universal time.

 

[fastlax16]

The director's explained that he actually time jumped from his alternative timeline with Peggy to the mainstream timeline to meet at the lake.

When he was in the 1970's and grabbed the extra Pym Particles, they made it a point to show that he grabbed four when they only needed two. And this comes into play later because after returning the infinity stones, he jumped to the 1940's (married Peggy) and then to the end scene using those two extra vials.

If he came back to the correct timeline, he would have had to return through the portal that bucky, sam and hulk were standing next to.

 

[ericstratton-rushchairman]

Just saw the movie...meh

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Just saw the movie...meh

 

[ericstratton-rushchairman]

Yes... That's pretty much how I felt. I've seen all 22 movies and still think Winter Soldier was the best. This one just went on and on and on. I guess I'm burned out.

 

[Countrylion]

Yes... That's pretty much how I felt. I've seen all 22 movies and still think Winter Soldier was the best. This one just went on and on and on. I guess I'm burned out.

Lol literally everyone I have heard talk about this movie disagrees with you ... oh there was Klay Thompson so 2 out of 150 million people.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Yes... That's pretty much how I felt. I've seen all 22 movies and still think Winter Soldier was the best. This one just went on and on and on. I guess I'm burned out.

All good - and Winter Soldier was one of my least favorite.

 

[NedFromYork]

I also agree Winter Soldier is the best. My updated ranking post Endgame.

Captain America: Winter Soldier
Iron Man
Avengers
Thor
Captain America: The First Avenger
Guardians of the Galaxy
Thor: Ragnarok
Ant Man
Guardians of the Galaxy 2
Infinity War
Endgame
Iron Man 2
Thor: Dark World
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Ant Man & The Wasp
Doctor Strange
Incredible Hulk
Captain America: Civil War
Spiderman: Homecoming
Iron Man 3
Black Panther
Captain Marvel

 

[PS4814]

SPOILERS

I’ve got a question with regard to Hawkeye and Natasha getting the soul stone. It’s said that someone must give up the one they love the most. Did Hawkeye really feel that way about Natasha? I mean first he had a wife and kids so I’d think he’d love them much more than Natasha. But for argument’s sake let’s say they’re out because they got dusted. Are we to believe that in the time that Natasha brought him back from Japan to when they were on Vormir he developed that much feelings for her that he loved her the most?

I understand in the comics they were intimately involved, but that never seemed to happen in the movie.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

SPOILERS

I’ve got a question with regard to Hawkeye and Natasha getting the soul stone. It’s said that someone must give up the one they love the most. Did Hawkeye really feel that way about Natasha? I mean first he had a wife and kids so I’d think he’d love them much more than Natasha. But for argument’s sake let’s say they’re out because they got dusted. Are we to believe that in the time that Natasha brought him back from Japan to when they were on Vormir he developed that much feelings for her that he loved her the most?

I understand in the comics they were intimately involved, but that never seemed to happen in the movie.

Better question is why send the two least powered Avengers to an alien planet with unknown enemies to retrieve the stone. They had no idea what was waiting for them.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

I also agree Winter Soldier is the best. My updated ranking post Endgame.

Captain America: Winter Soldier
Iron Man
Avengers
Thor
Captain America: The First Avenger
Guardians of the Galaxy
Thor: Ragnarok
Ant Man
Guardians of the Galaxy 2
Infinity War
Endgame
Iron Man 2
Thor: Dark World
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Ant Man & The Wasp
Doctor Strange
Incredible Hulk
Captain America: Civil War
Spiderman: Homecoming
Iron Man 3
Black Panther
Captain Marvel

Totally disagree.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

Just saw it and REALLY liked it. When you wrap up the whole of 22 films into one story, it’s really hard to do so and keep everyone happy. So I get it some people were disappointed. I thought they closed most of the story arks quite skillfully considering the breadth of material. I still wish they would’ve found a way to wrap it up without Cap Marvel. It’s not that I don’t like the character (she was okay), it just felt like they threw her in in the last month where she never fit in with the rest of the team. Still, while some of the movies were duds, quite the impressive feat to sprawl out over an entire decade plus.

Hope JJ is able to be as successful with SW after the clusterfvck that was the last jedi.

 

[Cletus11]

i agree that i thought Winter Soldier was the best movie.

Endgame was decent. Some plot twists, decent action scenes. 3 hours didn't bother me, when paying $15 for a movie never understood why people complain it would be too long (must be the same people that complain the college football game is too long). I agree also that Captain Marvel was forced into Endgame, didn't like her role. Can also say that the wimp Hulk didn't do it for me either. Would have liked to have had Hulk 'smash' things in that final scene. The wimp Hulk seemed like a political correct move to me.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Just saw it and REALLY liked it. When you wrap up the whole of 22 films into one story, it’s really hard to do so and keep everyone happy. So I get it some people were disappointed. I thought they closed most of the story arks quite skillfully considering the breadth of material. I still wish they would’ve found a way to wrap it up without Cap Marvel. It’s not that I don’t like the character (she was okay), it just felt like they threw her in in the last month where she never fit in with the rest of the team. Still, while some of the movies were duds, quite the impressive feat to sprawl out over an entire decade plus.

Hope JJ is able to be as successful with SW after the clusterfvck that was the last jedi.

If Captain Marvel was a part of things from the beginning Thanos never does anything. She would whup that ass.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

If Captain Marvel was a part of things from the beginning Thanos never does anything. She would whup that ass.

So why introduce her at all. There was plenty of muscle with the rest of the Avengers. She was forced into a story that didn’t need her, and quite frankly would’ve been told without her IMO.

 

[ericstratton-rushchairman]

So why introduce her at all. There was plenty of muscle with the rest of the Avengers. She was forced into a story that didn’t need her, and quite frankly would’ve been told without her IMO.

Agenda driven movie making...

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Agenda driven movie making...

Or read the comics.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

Or read the comics.

Correct me if I’m wrong, because I haven’t read the comics in several decades, but I don’t recall that Capt Marvel assisted the Avengers in defeating Thanos. In fact I thought it was Wolverine who put them over the top in the comics?