Receiving 6 points in "Others Receiving Votes", essentially ranking PSU No. 34
https://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll
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Finally Some AP Love for PSU Basketball...
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Yeah, too bad we can't fire-up the DeLorean and go back to replay some of those early season games. I'm still cringing about that Rider game. Sheesh!
The Rider game isn’t as harmful as the Wisconsin and Minnesota losses, I believe.
They're all bad and hurting us because we don't have enough quality wins to offset it. My biggest concern is that the Big Ten isn't seen as strong so our record in the last 10 will be completely ignored.
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves and focus on our next game.
Michigan, Michigan, Michigan
Michigan, Michigan, Michigan
Michigan, @ Nebraska and 1 in BTT will in all likelihood be enough (>95%), or 1 of those, plus 2 in BTT.
Those saying we need 4 are being a bit too pessimistic.
Those saying we need 4 are being a bit too pessimistic.
Your concerns are ridiculous.
1. We will get credit for a strong finish
2. Missing Reaves for 4 games (1-3) will absolutely be considered.
Anyone arguing against those two things doesn't know shit about the selection process. They are not robots looking at cold team sheets.
They are much smarter and detailed oriented than most people give them credit for. The committee is also much more open to advanced metrics such as KenPom than they have been in years past. They are not beholden to RPI at all.
http://www.omaha.com/sports/blogs/m...cle_e36edfda-1332-11e8-89e6-c341d32c13f9.html
Here's a great read into the mind of the selection committee chairman They are giving Nebraska much more credit for their Minnesota win because they were full-strength at the time. They look at all of that stuff. He talks about the quadrant system and how people are putting too much stock into wins falling on one side or the other of the boundary line.
Money quote: "We need to communicate better that the Committee looks at all of the metrics out there, and has KPI, SOR, Sagarin, Ken Pom and BPI at their disposal and looks at and discusses each of them when talking about a team."
We are 25th in KenPom and BPI. That's an absurd amount of strength that should not be ignored.
The highest ranked KP team to ever get snubbed was last year's TCU at 29, but they had lost their last 7 regular season games and ended up with a 67 RPI. Our RPI will be mid-high 50s with three more wins. You have to be pretty naive to think a Top 25 team that finished with a spectacular rush will be left out.
Many teams with RPIs in the 60s have been taken before (Syracuse got in with a 72 once). Teams with RPIs in the 20s have been left out. Illinois State was left out with a 33 RPI last year because they only had like three wins over Top 100 teams. If they were using Quads last year, Illinois State was 0-3 in Quad 1, 1-2 in Quad 2. If we get these last two wins, win one in the Big Ten tourney, we'll have about a dozen wins over Top 100 teams,
You can sweat whether we get in or not with 3 more wins, but I certainly won't be. We are in.
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That's not correct. TCU wasn't even the highest rated team to be left out last season (on Selection Sunday). If you're looking at rankings after the postseason is completed, then it isn't an apples to apples comparison.
They are not robots is exactly the issue. The understand the Big Ten is down this year. Given our poor non-conference schedule and our losses during that stretch going 11-7 in the Big Ten isn't overly impressive especially when you factor in losses to Minnesota and Wisconsin.
Losing games without Reaves will be considered but it's not going to sway people. We should have been better in those games with the absence of one player. The losses were Indiana, Northwestern & Minnesota if I recall correctly. We needed to find a way to win at least one of those games.
I can't even take you seriously at this point. You continue to make up false RPI when you post then backpedal. Allow things to play out and see where we're ranked. If we don't win the next two games we need a B1G finals run. We won't have the quality wins without it. The RPI, regardless of what you believe, will be a problem. There's a reason no one has us in right now. No one should have us in.
I hope you're right and we get in if that scenario happens. A part of me is dying to see what excuses you'll create when, as many of us believe, we won't.
4 wins are a must without a win over Purdue.
The Rider, Minny, Wisconsin and Maryland games really. All 4 of those games should have been wins
Hopefully we win three and find out. You've actually been wrong when you've posted RPI numbers. You just believe I'm wrong based on your "expert" opinion. There's a difference.
