Finebaum continues to troll Michigan; creates award for best 4th place finisher in P5 conference

[Judge Smails]

Michigan went 8-4 in the regular season and finished fourth in the Big Ten East at 5-4 in the Big Ten. The Wolverines finished behind Ohio State (8-1), Penn State (7-2) and Michigan State (7-2).

Earlier this season, Finebaum mocked Harbaugh and the Wolverines going into their game against Rutgers. At the time of the October 28 game, the winner was playing for fourth place. Michigan ended up routing Rutgers, 35-14.

“In the last 11 games, Jim Harbaugh is 6-5,” Finebaum said. “Jim Harbaugh makes $11 million a year. His team is playing Rutgers. They’re both tied right now for fourth in the Big Ten.”

 

[tboyer]

To be fair this was the rebuild year for Michigan. They had to replace a ton of players.

Next year is really where Harbaugh needs to produce. He will be in the 2nd year with his own (highly touted) recruits.

It's not going to be easy. At Notre Dame, at Northwestern, at Michigan State, at Ohio State, with PSU and Wisconsin at home (and home is not great for Michigan -- the Big House is a lot less intimidating than a lot of other B1G venues.

He's got to beat PSU and Wisconsin at home, he's really got to beat Ohio State at some point. He can't lose to a 2nd tier program like Northwestern but NW is dangerous at Evanston.

Yeah Michigan was young this year, they didn't have a QB. But they were just not very good on D -- not positionally disciplined so Moorhead just took them apart.

And I bet they lose their bowl game, which will put the Michigan fans in a sour mood going into 2018. SC has a good defense and UM still doesn't have a QB.

If I were Harbaugh I would be trying to arrange a sleepover with Tommy Stevens but who knows if that's allowed under B1G rules.

 

[Keyser Soze 16801]

Blind Squirrel Finebaum finds an acorn

 

[psu 83]

I hope he doesnt award it to Pitt as they will consider it their 376th MNC!

 

[Gnat91]

Harbaugh had a class full of NFL picks. And finished 3rd. If he couldn't get it done with that class he's not doing it anytime soon. Poach all the players you want.... looks like harbaugh needs a class full of 5 stars to get it done. He's gonna be a busy man trying to make that happen. Better bring a bunch of pillows and tape recorders with a continuous snoring loop.......

 

[fairfaxlion2]

I almost feel sorry for Finebaum. Imagine doing this for a living at his age

 

[Richard the LIONhearted]

To be fair this was the rebuild year for Michigan. They had to replace a ton of players.

Next year is really where Harbaugh needs to produce. He will be in the 2nd year with his own (highly touted) recruits.

It's not going to be easy. At Notre Dame, at Northwestern, at Michigan State, at Ohio State, with PSU and Wisconsin at home (and home is not great for Michigan -- the Big House is a lot less intimidating than a lot of other B1G venues.

He's got to beat PSU and Wisconsin at home, he's really got to beat Ohio State at some point. He can't lose to a 2nd tier program like Northwestern but NW is dangerous at Evanston.

Yeah Michigan was young this year, they didn't have a QB. But they were just not very good on D -- not positionally disciplined so Moorhead just took them apart.

And I bet they lose their bowl game, which will put the Michigan fans in a sour mood going into 2018. SC has a good defense and UM still doesn't have a QB.

If I were Harbaugh I would be trying to arrange a sleepover with Tommy Stevens but who knows if that's allowed under B1G rules.

To be fair this was the rebuild year for Michigan. They had to replace a ton of players.

Next year is really where Harbaugh needs to produce. He will be in the 2nd year with his own (highly touted) recruits.

It's not going to be easy. At Notre Dame, at Northwestern, at Michigan State, at Ohio State, with PSU and Wisconsin at home (and home is not great for Michigan -- the Big House is a lot less intimidating than a lot of other B1G venues.

He's got to beat PSU and Wisconsin at home, he's really got to beat Ohio State at some point. He can't lose to a 2nd tier program like Northwestern but NW is dangerous at Evanston.

Yeah Michigan was young this year, they didn't have a QB. But they were just not very good on D -- not positionally disciplined so Moorhead just took them apart.

And I bet they lose their bowl game, which will put the Michigan fans in a sour mood going into 2018. SC has a good defense and UM still doesn't have a QB.

If I were Harbaugh I would be trying to arrange a sleepover with Tommy Stevens but who knows if that's allowed under B1G rules.

I admire what he is trying to do there - build a NFL style drop back offensive attack. So few teams even try to do this anymore in college — the easy solution to find a productive offense in CFB is just to install a spread attack. But, I think when matched with the right players and most crucially, the right QB, that the pro style attack is far superior to the read and spread CFB offenses. It just takes everything to be right - an offensive line without any weaknesses, accurate and strong armed QB that can make all the throws, dominant TEs for run and pass and an onslaught rush game. If, and that is a big if — if he can put all these elements together, then I think M will play for the national title. And M will be one of the very few schools in all of CFB are built in this fashion.

 

[psuro]

I almost feel sorry for Finebaum. Imagine doing this for a living at his age

He gets paid to troll Michigan. We all do it for free.

 

[ram2020]

I admire what he is trying to do there - build a NFL style drop back offensive attack. So few teams even try to do this anymore in college — the easy solution to find a productive offense in CFB is just to install a spread attack. But, I think when matched with the right players and most crucially, the right QB, that the pro style attack is far superior to the read and spread CFB offenses. It just takes everything to be right - an offensive line without any weaknesses, accurate and strong armed QB that can make all the throws, dominant TEs for run and pass and an onslaught rush game. If, and that is a big if — if he can put all these elements together, then I think M will play for the national title. And M will be one of the very few schools in all of CFB are built in this fashion.

No offense, but assuming a team had all of the aforementioned ingredients, they can run whatever system they want all the way to the championship. The spread is an equalizer, or at least an offense that can hide some deficiencies. If you have no weaknesses, the scheme really does not matter. The mark of a good coach is one that can tailor his system to his talent, not the other way around.

 

[Judge Smails]

I admire what he is trying to do there - build a NFL style drop back offensive attack. So few teams even try to do this anymore in college — the easy solution to find a productive offense in CFB is just to install a spread attack. But, I think when matched with the right players and most crucially, the right QB, that the pro style attack is far superior to the read and spread CFB offenses. It just takes everything to be right - an offensive line without any weaknesses, accurate and strong armed QB that can make all the throws, dominant TEs for run and pass and an onslaught rush game. If, and that is a big if — if he can put all these elements together, then I think M will play for the national title. And M will be one of the very few schools in all of CFB are built in this fashion.

I think RPO far harder to defend. Running QB, giving you an extra blocker, is a defensive killer.

 

[Lion8286]

I almost feel sorry for Finebaum. Imagine doing this for a living at his age

Yeah, age 62 and getting paid a lot of money to discuss college football. Really feel sorry for him. It must really suck!

Much better to discuss college football on message boards and get paid nothing.

smh

 

[green2623]

Yeah, age 62 and getting paid a lot of money to discuss college football. Really feel sorry for him. It must really suck!

Much better to discuss college football on message boards and get paid nothing.

smh

Laughs my ass off!

 

[RTLH]

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Michigan went 8-4 in the regular season and finished fourth in the Big Ten East at 5-4 in the Big Ten. The Wolverines finished behind Ohio State (8-1), Penn State (7-2) and Michigan State (7-2).

Earlier this season, Finebaum mocked Harbaugh and the Wolverines going into their game against Rutgers. At the time of the October 28 game, the winner was playing for fourth place. Michigan ended up routing Rutgers, 35-14.

“In the last 11 games, Jim Harbaugh is 6-5,” Finebaum said. “Jim Harbaugh makes $11 million a year. His team is playing Rutgers. They’re both tied right now for fourth in the Big Ten.”

Only reason I like him is he hates Notre Dame more than me!

 

[cavic]

Only reason I like him is he hates Notre Dame more than me!

People here seem to regularly forget, he was very fair and measured in his assessment of JVP. Compared to most of the bellowing mob, he practically sounded like someone on this board. It surprises me that he's not more popular here.

 

[ClarkstonMark]

People here seem to regularly forget, he was very fair and measured in his assessment of JVP. Compared to most of the bellowing mob, he practically sounded like someone on this board. It surprises me that he's not more popular here.

A lot of people I don't care for supported Paterno (e.g. - Trump).
You seriously like FInebaum? The guy is a douche, who cares what he thought about Joe.

 

[cment]

Only reason I like him is he hates Notre Dame more than me!

People here seem to regularly forget, he was very fair and measured in his assessment of JVP. Compared to most of the bellowing mob, he practically sounded like someone on this board. It surprises me that he's not more popular here.

Agree. Travelling in Birmingham regularly back in the day, he was a "shock jock for 'Bama (SEC, AU and UA) sports," but the dude was good and knew his stuff for a pencil-neck. When all hell broke loose in 2011 he was VERY pro JVP and always had postive things to say during during tge BOB tenure.

Now he is pure troll and getting paid big $ to do so, but he occasionally has some good insight into a game.

You can also thank him for starting and continuing the SEC is better than "every other conference" BS. He was the first on-air hire for ESPN they got the SEC contract.

 

[cment]

People here seem to regularly forget, he was very fair and measured in his assessment of JVP. Compared to most of the bellowing mob, he practically sounded like someone on this board. It surprises me that he's not more popular here.

A lot of people I don't care for supported Paterno (e.g. - Trump).
You seriously like FInebaum? The guy is a douche, who cares what he thought about Joe.

Well, please list who else in the media took an objective view of JVP…? Finebaum might be a douche, but he was fair.

btw- great for you to bring politics unnecessarily into a thread. Again, please list those who gave JVP a fair shot? And while you are at it, list the CFB media talking-heads that you think are better. I only came up with about 3 above PF (and that is sad.)

 

[cavic]

A lot of people I don't care for supported Paterno (e.g. - Trump).
You seriously like FInebaum? The guy is a douche, who cares what he thought about Joe.

I don't know if I like him any longer b/c I don't watch espn (if a game's on, I'll usually have the volume off).

To your question, do I care that he was fair to Joe? Yes, & given how rare such voices were at the time, I give him a lot of credit for it. So an honest question to you, why the hell wouldn't you appreciate it?

 

[Howie'81]

To be fair this was the rebuild year for Michigan. They had to replace a ton of players.

Next year is really where Harbaugh needs to produce. He will be in the 2nd year with his own (highly touted) recruits.

It's not going to be easy. At Notre Dame, at Northwestern, at Michigan State, at Ohio State, with PSU and Wisconsin at home (and home is not great for Michigan -- the Big House is a lot less intimidating than a lot of other B1G venues.

He's got to beat PSU and Wisconsin at home, he's really got to beat Ohio State at some point. He can't lose to a 2nd tier program like Northwestern but NW is dangerous at Evanston.

Yeah Michigan was young this year, they didn't have a QB. But they were just not very good on D -- not positionally disciplined so Moorhead just took them apart.

And I bet they lose their bowl game, which will put the Michigan fans in a sour mood going into 2018. SC has a good defense and UM still doesn't have a QB.

If I were Harbaugh I would be trying to arrange a sleepover with Tommy Stevens but who knows if that's allowed under B1G rules.

C'mon. The guy's underachieving

 

[psute]

No offense, but assuming a team had all of the aforementioned ingredients, they can run whatever system they want all the way to the championship. The spread is an equalizer, or at least an offense that can hide some deficiencies. If you have no weaknesses, the scheme really does not matter. The mark of a good coach is one that can tailor his system to his talent, not the other way around.

Not dissimilar to the service academies running the triple option. An equalizer...

 

[Judge Smails]

Finebaum had on Franklin after he got the Penn State job. He rudely grilled Franklin for two minutes about "stealing" Vanderbilt verbals and then hung up on him. I don't think I've ever heard anything like it. So I agree with those who say he's a dick. He has a bee in his bonnet about Michigan right now, that's for sure.

 

[We Are . . .]

I almost feel sorry for Finebaum. Imagine doing this for a living at his age

It beats working for a living.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Love the Penn State fans who give Harbaugh far more slack for losses due to graduation, roster holes, etc than James Franklin. If anyone can play the excuse card, it’s Franklin. Harbaugh has no excuses

 

[Judge Smails]

Love the Penn State fans who give Harbaugh far more slack for losses due to graduation, roster holes, etc than James Franklin. If anyone can play the excuse card, it’s Franklin. Harbaugh has no excuses

It's really strange. Go to a Michigan message board and you find the most hateful crap imaginable about Penn State. But it's a lovefest for them here.

 

[psuro]

It's really strange. Go to a Michigan message board and you find the most hateful crap imaginable about Penn State. But it's a lovefest for them here.

That's because too many people spend their energy on Pitt, and needlessly so. Besides, Finebaum handles our light work.

 

[Obliviax]

I admire what he is trying to do there - build a NFL style drop back offensive attack. So few teams even try to do this anymore in college — the easy solution to find a productive offense in CFB is just to install a spread attack. But, I think when matched with the right players and most crucially, the right QB, that the pro style attack is far superior to the read and spread CFB offenses. It just takes everything to be right - an offensive line without any weaknesses, accurate and strong armed QB that can make all the throws, dominant TEs for run and pass and an onslaught rush game. If, and that is a big if — if he can put all these elements together, then I think M will play for the national title. And M will be one of the very few schools in all of CFB are built in this fashion.

I totally agree...its a good take. On one hand, he will get the cream of the crop in pro-style QBs. The problem is that the college game is so different than pro that the pro-style offense is no longer ideal. Teams like PSU and Um play about five or six really challenging games. UM played, last year: FL, Sparty, PSU, Wisky and tOSU...all tough games. They also played Cincy, Air Force, Purdue, Indiana, Rutgers, Minny, and MD. My point here is that a dual threat QB, making him a real offensive weapon on the ground and in the air, puts more pressure on the D. And there is far less chance of injury than the NFL (with their very difficult 16 games, unless the Browns are on the schedule, more if you make the playoffs or need to play him in the preseason because he is young or new). You just don't have to protect the dual threat guys like you do in the NFL.

 

[Lion8286]

Only reason I like him is he hates Notre Dame more than me!

Interesting tweet I saw about Notre Dame. . .