Reminder, a wrestler must be designated the starter and have 8 Div 1 matches to be eligible for rankings.
First Coaches Rankings
- Thread starter jmadden1998
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Reminder, a wrestler must be designated the starter and have 8 Div 1 matches to be eligible for rankings.
Inevitably, there will be someone who won't read the criteria, and the meltdown will begin.
Haines has 14 bouts, all but one against D1 competition, I think. He might have been left off because he hasn't been designated the starter yet?
And he has a MD over 16th ranked Model. My assumption on the starter thing was starting a match at a dual, but I could be wrong. As in someone that only wrestled opens would not be considered but someone with 8 bouts and starting for multiple dual meets would count. But who knows, hopefully we find out soon who our starter is.
We'll know about Haines in about 25 hours. I'm hoping he goes in both duals. Lewan and Saldate would be a great litmus test.
Or because the coaches' designated interns who voted don't know about Haines yet.
“Designated the starter”? We cant get a freakin strait answer let alone Cael DESIGNATE anything. 😤
Probably people here who think you are joking. Lol
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It appears possible that the new 5-bout rule for true freshman may be part of the challenges for this ranking too. He's not the obvious starter until he gets his 6th attached bout and/or he's proclaimed such by someone in authority. No worries, it'll all be clear soon enough.
A bit silly to put the rankings out then, when the criteria eliminates many of the top guys. But, whatever.
Maybe because a lot of teams missed some of the big tournaments and a lot of wrestlers having a reduced schedule?
Terrell Barraclough was listed as Penn State's Starter at 157 lbs. for this coaches ranking.
Obviously it can change for the second rankings but whoever from Penn State inputs/confirms their results (probably a coach) designated Barraclough as the PSU wrestler to rank for this first release.
It's also interesting they did that since Barraclough was not eligible to be ranked as he has 8 matches but one of them is against Haines and you can't count matches against teammates or extra matches this year to avoid what happened at the last chance opens in year's past.
Obviously it can change for the second rankings but whoever from Penn State inputs/confirms their results (probably a coach) designated Barraclough as the PSU wrestler to rank for this first release.
It's also interesting they did that since Barraclough was not eligible to be ranked as he has 8 matches but one of them is against Haines and you can't count matches against teammates or extra matches this year to avoid what happened at the last chance opens in year's past.
I prefer the BWI rankings better. They tend to be the most accurate predictor for March as early as November. At least for the PSU, Rutgers and Iowa programs
Here are the wrestlers ranked by Intermat (far left column is intermat ranking) who are not in the first coaches poll. Asterisks mean they did not have enough matches.
41 Total ranked by intermat but not in coaches ranking
32 - not enough matches (1 due to administrative error by Nebraska who had record wrong in track wrestling (Cronin))
4 - Ranked by intermat but not designated as starter by the coaching staff (Pitzer, Pitt / DePrez, Binghamton / Haines, PSU / Carr, Illinois)
2 - out more than a month with injury (1 due to administrative error by Air Force)
2 - teammate was designated as starter and ranked by in coaches poll
1 - wasn't ranked by coaches but was by Intermat (Max Maylor, Michigan 174)
41 Total ranked by intermat but not in coaches ranking
32 - not enough matches (1 due to administrative error by Nebraska who had record wrong in track wrestling (Cronin))
4 - Ranked by intermat but not designated as starter by the coaching staff (Pitzer, Pitt / DePrez, Binghamton / Haines, PSU / Carr, Illinois)
2 - out more than a month with injury (1 due to administrative error by Air Force)
2 - teammate was designated as starter and ranked by in coaches poll
1 - wasn't ranked by coaches but was by Intermat (Max Maylor, Michigan 174)
1 | Spencer Lee | Iowa | Big Ten | 125 | * |
2 | Patrick Glory | Princeton | EIWA | 125 | * |
3 | Liam Cronin | Nebraska | Big Ten | 125 | * record was reported incorrectly |
4 | Michael DeAugustino | Northwestern | Big Ten | 125 | * |
7 | Brandon Courtney | Arizona State | Pac-12 | 125 | * |
8 | Killian Cardinale | West Virginia | Big 12 | 125 | * |
1 | Roman Bravo-Young | Penn State | Big Ten | 133 | * |
23 | Ramazan Attasauov | Iowa State | Big 12 | 133 | Teammate ranked |
27 | Gabe Hixenbaugh | Campbell | SoCon | 133 | Teammate ranked |
29 | Haiden Drury | Utah Valley | Big 12 | 133 | * not listed as starter |
2 | Real Woods | Iowa | Big Ten | 141 | * |
10 | Frankie Tal-Shahar | Northwestern | Big Ten | 141 | * |
19 | Casey Swiderski | Iowa State | Big 12 | 141 | * |
21 | Saul Ervin | SIU Edwardsville | MAC | 141 | * not enough at current weight |
29 | Brian Courtney | Virginia | ACC | 141 | * |
1 | Yianni Diakomihalis | Cornell | EIWA | 149 | * |
25 | Zach Sherman | North Carolina | ACC | 149 | * |
6 | Bryce Andonian | Virginia Tech | ACC | 157 | * |
17 | Levi Haines | Penn State | Big Ten | 157 | Not listed as starter |
20 | Michael Carr | Illinois | Big Ten | 157 | Not listed as starter |
21 | Cobe Siebrecht | Iowa | Big Ten | 157 | * |
24 | Michael Petite | Buffalo | MAC | 157 | * |
33 | Jake Keating | Virginia | ACC | 157 | * |
8 | Carson Kharchla | Ohio State | Big Ten | 165 | * |
32 | Matthew Singleton | NC State | ACC | 165 | * |
9 | Clay Lautt | North Carolina | ACC | 174 | * |
12 | Phil Conigliaro | Harvard | EIWA | 174 | * |
13 | Lance Runyon | Northern Iowa | Big 12 | 174 | * |
16 | Nelson Brands | Iowa | Big Ten | 174 | * |
21 | Sam Wolf | Air Force | Big 12 | 174 | Injured too long, return on 1/15 not reported on time |
30 | Max Maylor | Michigan | Big Ten | 174 | Not sure reason |
1 | Aaron Brooks | Penn State | Big Ten | 184 | * |
6 | Jonathan Loew | Cornell | EIWA | 184 | * |
21 | Adam Kemp | Cal Poly | Pac-12 | 184 | * |
1 | Rocky Elam | Missouri | Big 12 | 197 | * |
9 | Louie Deprez | Binghamton | EIWA | 197 | Not listed as starter |
17 | Jacob Cardenas | Cornell | EIWA | 197 | * |
19 | Kordell Norfleet | Arizona State | Pac-12 | 197 | Injured too long |
1 | Greg Kerkvliet | Penn State | Big Ten | 285 | * |
5 | Dayton Pitzer | Pittsburgh | ACC | 285 | Not listed as starter |
18 | Lewis Fernandes | Cornell | EIWA | 285 | * |
Here are guys not ranked by Intermat but are in the coaches ranking. Two in bold had their teammates ranked by Intermat.
Takeaway is definitely once you get to 25-33 the coaches are definitely looking at other national rankings such as Intermat and Flo.
Takeaway is definitely once you get to 25-33 the coaches are definitely looking at other national rankings such as Intermat and Flo.
28 | Antonio Lorenzo | Cal Poly | Pac-12 | 125 |
29 | Tucker Owens | Air Force | Big 12 | 125 |
30 | Carter Bailey | Lehigh | EIWA | 125 |
30 | Colton Camacho | Pittsburgh | ACC | 125 |
32 | Maximilian Leete | American | EIWA | 125 |
33 | Jacob Moran | Indiana | Big Ten | 125 |
22 | Zach Redding | Iowa State | Big 12 | 133 |
29 | Domenic Zaccone | Campbell | SoCon | 133 |
32 | Boo Dryden | Nebraska | Big Ten | 133 |
33 | Gable Strickland | Lock Haven | MAC | 133 |
28 | Jordan Titus | West Virginia | Big 12 | 141 |
30 | Dylan Layton | Cleveland St. | MAC | 141 |
31 | Malyke Hines | Lehigh | EIWA | 141 |
32 | Shannon Hanna | Campbell | SoCon | 141 |
33 | Kal Miller | Maryland | Big Ten | 141 |
30 | Dylan Martinez | Air Force | Big 12 | 149 |
31 | Tony White | Rutgers | Big Ten | 149 |
33 | Kyle Schickel | Clarion | MAC | 149 |
23 | Andrew Clark | Rutgers | Big Ten | 157 |
26 | Corbyn Munson | Central Mich. | MAC | 157 |
29 | Andrew Cerniglia | Navy | EIWA | 157 |
31 | Jacob Butler | Oklahoma | Big 12 | 157 |
32 | Peter Pappas | George Mason | MAC | 157 |
33 | Marcus Robinson | Cleveland St. | MAC | 157 |
32 | Lucas Revano | Penn | EIWA | 165 |
33 | Avery Bassett | Lock Haven | MAC | 165 |
27 | Will Miller | Appalachian State | SoCon | 174 |
28 | Hayden Hastings | Wyoming | Big 12 | 174 |
30 | Gaven Sax | North Dakota St. | Big 12 | 174 |
31 | Alex Cramer | Central Mich. | MAC | 174 |
32 | Luca Augustine | Pittsburgh | ACC | 174 |
33 | Dominic Solis | Maryland | Big Ten | 174 |
28 | Caleb Hopkins | Campbell | SoCon | 184 |
32 | Nate Dugan | Princeton | EIWA | 184 |
33 | Noah Blake | Air Force | Big 12 | 184 |
29 | Levi Hopkins | Campbell | SoCon | 197 |
31 | Max Shaw | North Carolina | ACC | 197 |
32 | John Crawford | Franklin & Marshall | EIWA | 197 |
33 | Nick Willham | Indiana | Big Ten | 197 |
30 | Dorian Crosby | Bucknell | EIWA | 285 |
32 | josiah hill | Little Rock | Pac-12 | 285 |
33 | Travis Stefanik | Princeton | EIWA | 285 |
Once upon a time, I was really excited to see the first Coaches Ranking. No more, as it's value has taken a nose-dive over the past couple of years due to fewer bouts by wrestlers overall. The one I'm now looking most forward to is the one that will come out about February 9 or 10, which will also include the RPI.
I also saw the rankings with several Key PSU studs unranked ...... I just assumed it was Wrestlestat. .....
I kid 
