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Found this interesting: A couple great scientific breakthroughs by a brilliant but unknown inventor that turned out to be huge problems decades later.

It as about unintended consequences and not fully appreciating how interconnected everything is.

I watched The Men Who Built America and they had the story of Nicola Tesla versus Thomas Edison. I may have some details wrong here but directionally, Tesla worked for Edison. Edison outfitted his home with electric lights using Direct Current (DC) and made a big splash. Imagine having people over for dinner and showing them electric lights in your home for the first time in history. They got funding to do some work on this in NY but Tesla came to Edison and said they needed to switch from DC to AC. Edison told him to pound sand so Tesla quit.

Later, the govt went to bid on a huge project in the Buffalo area and Tesla submitted a bid along with Westinghouse. Edison thought this was a slam dunk because he was famous and well-connected politically. He was shocked that Tesla won the bid and ended up building a water-powered AC system. AC ruled the world and Edison lost out in a worldwide phenomenon. Funny we think of Edison as being a genius but clearly missed the boat on this one. This paints Edison as a pretty dirty player, along with JP Morgan who was financing him.

 
Don't think for a moment that Edison was not dirty - he was. His accomplishments should be lauded, but history has been kind to him. Lobbying and political leverage/favors were prevalent in the late 1800's - who would have thunk? History repeats and power corrupts.
 
The Current Wars. Edison went around electrocuting animals, perhaps even an elephant, in order to convince people that AC was too dangerous to use. Finally, he invented Old Sparky the first electric chair. Edison was a bad man.

The story of Tesla falling out with Edison is supposedly more petty. Edison was ranting about some contraption not working or not being efficient, so he said he would pay $50,000 to anyone who could fix it. Tesla fixed it and asked for the money. Edison said whoa I was just kidding. Tesla didn’t understand the nuance (Sheldon Cooper). Tesla left and I believe he dug ditches for a year before he obtained financing to start his own lab.

The partnership of George Westinghouse and Tesla may be the most important relationship for our present way of life. Tesla dreamed and Westinghouse built. This relationship deserves more attention in the history books.
 
AI could be the next big mistake.
That’s one big one. Among the many others is GMO food, CRISPR gene splicing technologies, forever chemicals, plastics, our total surveillance world….. I am sure there are more. Some fear we are sending out signals to aliens on far away planets giving away our location.
 
I'm not sure that inventing the electric chair makes him a bad man
He built it specifically for PR in his fight with Tesla. He wasn’t looking for a more humane form of execution. He just slowly cooked the first guy instead of an instant kill, so the PR went the wrong way for Edison.
 
AI could be the next big mistake.

It's like no one has ever seen 'Terminator'
I work in the Defense technology space. I partner with a lot of major players in the Military Industrial Complex as well as start ups that would like to be part of it.
I attend major trade shows and see the advances in robotics, autonomy, and AI. There is no doubt in my mind where it is headed. Only a matter of time.
 
It's like no one has ever seen 'Terminator'
I work in the Defense technology space. I partner with a lot of major players in the Military Industrial Complex as well as start ups that would like to be part of it.
I attend major trade shows and see the advances in robotics, autonomy, and AI. There is no doubt in my mind where it is headed. Only a matter of time.
The ‘creatures’ by Boston Robotics are amazing…..and scary. Match them up AI and off we go…….
 
The ‘creatures’ by Boston Robotics are amazing…..and scary. Match them up AI and off we go…….
Yup. have had "SPOT" in my company's booth.
Their competitor, Ghost Robotics, showed up to conference with a dog robot and mounted a .30 cal to it....lots of blow back from that.
 
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The Current Wars. Edison went around electrocuting animals, perhaps even an elephant, in order to convince people that AC was too dangerous to use. Finally, he invented Old Sparky the first electric chair. Edison was a bad man.

The story of Tesla falling out with Edison is supposedly more petty. Edison was ranting about some contraption not working or not being efficient, so he said he would pay $50,000 to anyone who could fix it. Tesla fixed it and asked for the money. Edison said whoa I was just kidding. Tesla didn’t understand the nuance (Sheldon Cooper). Tesla left and I believe he dug ditches for a year before he obtained financing to start his own lab.

The partnership of George Westinghouse and Tesla may be the most important relationship for our present way of life. Tesla dreamed and Westinghouse built. This relationship deserves more attention in the history books.
Westinghouse is never given credit for his contributions. Tesla, although brilliant was a failure on his own and with Edison. Westinghouse turned him loose. Westinghouse resisted overtures from Morgan so Morgan had Westinghouse's creditors call in their loans and bankrupted Westinghouse. Westinghouse was pretty much left with only Westinghouse Air Brake Company (his original venture) while JP Morgan et all took over Westinghouse Electric and Manufacturing
 
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Westinghouse is never given credit for his contributions. Tesla, although brilliant was a failure on his own and with Edison. Westinghouse turned him loose. Westinghouse resisted overtures from Morgan so Morgan had Westinghouse's creditors call on their loans and bankrupted Westinghouse. Westinghouse was pretty much left with only Westinghouse Air Brake Company (his original venture) while JP Morgan et all took over Westinghouse Electric and Manufacturing
I deal with a lot of technology startups. Tesla reminds me of many of those CEOs. They have great ideas but most are more technology/engineering oriented. They often lack competence in finance, marketing, sales and even social skills. The best ones I deal with are typically some kind of co-foundership with an engineer and a finance or marketing person.

I feel like Tesla was incredibly smart but his antics scared people. He seemed like a nut. The challenge with these people is that they are "loose cannons". So you get some VC person who wants to invest but needs to take them back to the board. You have to be pretty brave to rep a guy like this if he shows up and goes on a rant regarding some weird conspiracy theory. he can make you look like an idiot and set your career back.
 
The problem in my view is the human misperception that we understand all of the variables. That's why certain bold claims scare the bejesus out of me. Humans have never understood all of the variables. The systems aren't 100% closed outside of a lab.

This message brought to you by COVID, climate change activists, big pharma, AI, etc. They don't control all of the variables as much as they hope to convince you. We are humans on Earth. The systems from our bodies to our world are complex, open, and with orders of magnitude more interactions than humans can identify, model, or comprehend.
 
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I deal with a lot of technology startups. Tesla reminds me of many of those CEOs. They have great ideas but most are more technology/engineering oriented. They often lack competence in finance, marketing, sales and even social skills. The best ones I deal with are typically some kind of co-foundership with an engineer and a finance or marketing person.

I feel like Tesla was incredibly smart but his antics scared people. He seemed like a nut. The challenge with these people is that they are "loose cannons". So you get some VC person who wants to invest but needs to take them back to the board. You have to be pretty brave to rep a guy like this if he shows up and goes on a rant regarding some weird conspiracy theory. he can make you look like an idiot and set your career back.
Yet Westinghouse gets no credit for harnessing Tesla's genius. George Westinghouse was perhaps the best captain of industry. Great inventor, great manager. He was way ahead of his time and bore the angst of Carnegie and others for going with a six day work week at the Wilmerding WABCO plant. The first to understand and deal with labor relations
 
Westinghouse is never given credit for his contributions. Tesla, although brilliant was a failure on his own and with Edison. Westinghouse turned him loose. Westinghouse resisted overtures from Morgan so Morgan had Westinghouse's creditors call in their loans and bankrupted Westinghouse. Westinghouse was pretty much left with only Westinghouse Air Brake Company (his original venture) while JP Morgan et all took over Westinghouse Electric and Manufacturing
Westinghouse was told by his bankers in the early days that he couldn’t honor his contract with Tesla on electric motor royalties. Westinghouse approached Tesla about changing it, and Tesla told him to just tear it up. The work was more important than the money.

If Tesla had held firm on motor royalties, he would have been richer than any of the robber barons.
 
Yet Westinghouse gets no credit for harnessing Tesla's genius. George Westinghouse was perhaps the best captain of industry. Great inventor, great manager. He was way ahead of his time and bore the angst of Carnegie and others for going with a six day work week at the Wilmerding WABCO plant. The first to understand and deal with labor relations
Upon his death, his workers chipped in to build a statue of him. I think that tells the story better than we can.
 
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The problem in my view is the human misperception that we understand all of the variables. That's why certain bold claims scare the bejesus out of me. Humans have never understood all of the variables. The systems aren't 100% closed outside of a lab.

This message brought to you by C0VID, climate change activists, big pharma, AI, etc. They don't control all of the variables as much as they hope to convince you. We are humans on Earth. The systems from our bodies to our world are complex, open, and with orders of magnitude more interactions than humans can identify, model, or comprehend.
Always remember one thing, whenever the government tells you a new pharmaceutical is safe and effective...

The FDA has never recalled a drug, that it first didn't approve as safe and effective...and those were after full clinical trials that take years.

Every time a govt official stated that the vaxxes were "safe", they were lying. By definition, there was no way for them, or anyone, to have made that assessment.
FWIW, here is a short overview of the clinical trial process and timeline that the FDA says is imperative to ensure efficacy and safety. Juxtapose this against the timelines of the vaxxes
 
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I deal with a lot of technology startups. Tesla reminds me of many of those CEOs. They have great ideas but most are more technology/engineering oriented. They often lack competence in finance, marketing, sales and even social skills. The best ones I deal with are typically some kind of co-foundership with an engineer and a finance or marketing person.

I feel like Tesla was incredibly smart but his antics scared people. He seemed like a nut. The challenge with these people is that they are "loose cannons". So you get some VC person who wants to invest but needs to take them back to the board. You have to be pretty brave to rep a guy like this if he shows up and goes on a rant regarding some weird conspiracy theory. he can make you look like an idiot and set your career back.
I think you nailed it. If you listen to Jordan Petersen talk about psychology and personality, he talks about this. Most entrepreneurs are high in "trait openness" and creativity. It's what drives innovation. There is a strong correlation between trait openness and left-leaning politics. It explains a lot of the reason why Silicon Valley and Hollywood lean the way they do. A downside of most people with these traits is they are low in "conscientiousness." It explains the assessment of Tesla and perhaps why he struggled to get his ideas accepted. It explains a good bit of what troubles start-ups.
Conversely, most successful Management types tend to be high in "conscientiousness," which is about accountabilities/deadlines/etc, and these types tend to be more politically oriented to the right.
As you note, there needs to be a balance. The creative entrepreneurs, who design the ship, need conscientious managers to steer it and make sure it reaches it's destination. It's easy to see then, in the political climate that has evolved, how companies like twitter, despite it's perceived success and size, really lacked the controls and business process to drive execution and financial results.
 
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Always remember one thing, whenever the government tells you a new pharmaceutical is safe and effective...

The FDA has never recalled a drug, that is first didn't approve as safe and effective...and those were after full clinical trials that take years.

Every time a govt official stated that the vaxxes were "safe", they were lying. By definition, there was no way for them, or anyone, to have made that assessment.
FWIW, here is a short overview of the clinical trial process and timeline that the FDA says is imperative to ensure efficacy and safety. uxtapose this against the timelines of the vaxxes
My wife managed clinical trials for a couple of decades. I'm quite aware of normal clinical trial protocol and how it was essentially set aside to bring the COVID vaccines to market in record time.
 
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Thanks for a fascinating read, but I really hate the judgmental tone of the article. Midgley was brilliant and solved a couple of problems that allowed the quality of life for the average American to improve dramatically. It would be left to future generations to solve the issues created, but you certainly can't have expected the inventor to anticipate those.

The chlorofluorocarbon alternatives were eventually develop, and the ozone layer is repairing The real problem with addressing climate change is that it has become a political and quasi religious issue and really is not being addressed logicall.
 
Thanks for a fascinating read, but I really hate the judgmental tone of the article. Midgley was brilliant and solved a couple of problems that allowed the quality of life for the average American to improve dramatically. It would be left to future generations to solve the issues created, but you certainly can't have expected the inventor to anticipate those.

The chlorofluorocarbon alternatives were eventually develop, and the ozone layer is repairing The real problem with addressing climate change is that it has become a political and quasi religious issue and really is not being addressed logicall.
Agreed, the media (movies included) always seem to want to paint everything in black and white. Life is rarely that simple.
 
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The Current Wars. Edison went around electrocuting animals, perhaps even an elephant, in order to convince people that AC was too dangerous to use. Finally, he invented Old Sparky the first electric chair. Edison was a bad man.

The story of Tesla falling out with Edison is supposedly more petty. Edison was ranting about some contraption not working or not being efficient, so he said he would pay $50,000 to anyone who could fix it. Tesla fixed it and asked for the money. Edison said whoa I was just kidding. Tesla didn’t understand the nuance (Sheldon Cooper). Tesla left and I believe he dug ditches for a year before he obtained financing to start his own lab.

The partnership of George Westinghouse and Tesla may be the most important relationship for our present way of life. Tesla dreamed and Westinghouse built. This relationship deserves more attention in the history books.
He was also quite egocentric. All patents emanating from his labs were awarded to Edison whereas actual inventors in the Westinghouse labs were named on the patents, not George Westinghouse.
 
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That is why Edison had so many patents. He had a large lab and every development had his name on it regardless of his involvement.

Tesla was pretty much a loner with a couple assistants. He was eccentric, to put mildly, but he should actually be called our greatest inventor.
 
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That is why Edison had so many patents. He had a large lab and every development had his name on it regardless of his involvement.

Tesla was pretty much a loner with a couple assistants. He was eccentric, to put mildly, but he should actually be called our greatest inventor.
Interestingly, Musk will eclipse them all with Tesla, space x, the boring company, and star link. And he doesn’t often apply for patents


 
Sorry. Tesla was a legal immigrant. Musk is an illegal alien, but we don’t know what planet he came from. Is he actually trying to go home by going to Mars?
 
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