Franklin says Nick Saban should be commish

[LMTLION]

PSU's Franklin: Saban should be commish of CFB

Penn State coach James Franklin says with the new landscape of NIL and the transfer portal, college football needs a commissioner, and the man for that job is Nick Saban.

www.espn.com

I am not a Saban fan, but not a terrible idea.

 

[LandoComando]

PSU's Franklin: Saban should be commish of CFB

Penn State coach James Franklin says with the new landscape of NIL and the transfer portal, college football needs a commissioner, and the man for that job is Nick Saban.

www.espn.com

I am not a Saban fan, but not a terrible idea.

The first thing Saban would do is require 10 conference games so I'm a supporter
Saban's probably the best person for it...not sure who else would even be close to him as prepared for something like that.
I would have wanted Paterno in that role around 2001

 

[LMTLION]

The first thing Saban would do is require 10 conference games so I'm a supporter
Saban's probably the best person for it...not sure who else would even be close to him as prepared for something like that.
I would have wanted Paterno in that role around 2001

I would love to see 10 conference games! Get rid of the Kent State and Villinova games.

 

[LandoComando]

I would love to see 10 conference games! Get rid of the Kent State and Villinova games.

Yeah, he said 10 conference games and power conferences should only play other power conference
He basically said he'll make the entire schedule lol
I know ADs and a lot of coaches would hate it--fans and TV executives would be very happy

 

[roswelllion]

Yeah, he said 10 conference games and power conferences should only play other power conference
He basically said he'll make the entire schedule lol
I know ADs and a lot of coaches would hate it--fans and TV executives would be very happy

I like the idea and Neuheisel has said many the same things. Then rotate power 4 conferences playing each. Also within the conference vs conference match ups play good on good etc. Very NFL but will create a lot MORE PARODY which makes selecting teams even harder.

 

[LandoComando]

I like the idea and Neuheisel has said many the same things. Then rotate power 4 conferences playing each. Also within the conference vs conference match ups play good on good etc. Very NFL but will create a lot MORE PARODY which makes selecting teams even harder.

Or--you agree in advance
Big Ten / SEC get 5 auto bids (10)
Big XII / ACC get 3 auto bids (6)
Everyone else gets 1 auto bid (so that's 6 with the Pac returning)
There's 22 spots with 2 at large--though ideally you just take away the at large and force ND to join
And I'm all for parity because I'm tired of this belief 9-3 is somehow a bad season and unworthy of the playoff when you've played a top 15 schedule. South Carolina was playing their best at the end of the year and that needs to be considered in we're "selecting" teams

 

[BOSCO2]

I like the idea and Neuheisel has said many the same things. Then rotate power 4 conferences playing each. Also within the conference vs conference match ups play good on good etc. Very NFL but will create a lot MORE PARODY which makes selecting teams even harder.

I’m not sure I want parody.

 

[LandoComando]

I’m not sure I want parody.

It will be more like the NFL
Yes, the top teams will have a loss or two but a lot more 8-4 and 7-5 as it should be
9-3 or 8-4 means little today
Hell, Indiana and SMU proved you can be 11-1 and it means nothing because you played no one

 

[SUPERTODD]

I’m not sure I want parody.

I feel like that’s what we have now. A parody of what colleges football used to be. Not sure I want parity either. Penn State domination is what I would like to see.

 

[GregInPitt]

Saban never won anything until he got to the SEC where cheating was/is the norm.

He'd be great at overseeing a free for all. Let the best cheaters win!!!!

And bring back Hairbough to help him!!!!

 

[voltz99]

The first thing Saban would do is require 10 conference games so I'm a supporter
Saban's probably the best person for it...not sure who else would even be close to him as prepared for something like that.
I would have wanted Paterno in that role around 2001

Which of Saban's new rules did he ever support as a coach?

 

[LandoComando]

Which of Saban's new rules did he ever support as a coach?

None--there wasn't a legit playoff then. The game changes--you adapt
Though he's always complained about playing FCS teams for "an extra home job"

 

[rrdd2021]

Not an Alabama fan AT ALL, but even when he was coaching, Saban told it like it was. Even more so now that he's retired. He recently just ripped into those stupid OSU fans for their obsession with Michigan which is kind of funny since Alabama and Auburn go through almost the same thing

 

[Frabjous]

I like the idea and Neuheisel has said many the same things. Then rotate power 4 conferences playing each. Also within the conference vs conference match ups play good on good etc. Very NFL but will create a lot MORE PARODY which makes selecting teams even harder.

Word nerd here. No disrespect. You want ‘parity’ not ‘parody.’

 

[Jerry]

PSU's Franklin: Saban should be commish of CFB

Penn State coach James Franklin says with the new landscape of NIL and the transfer portal, college football needs a commissioner, and the man for that job is Nick Saban.

www.espn.com

I am not a Saban fan, but not a terrible idea.

I hate Alabama...and feel the same about the SEC...but our coach makes great comments which are right on the mark.

Saban has been around the block -- he coached Michigan State and elsewhere to include failing in the NFL before becoming an SEC legend -- and is acutely aware of the problems of modern college football. He's talked about them in fact.

The sport needs a commissioner with power to have an impact and make changes. Saban is the logical guy. Sign me up.

 

[LandoComando]

He needs a legal guy with him...Oliver Luck could use a better job

 

[The Spin Meister]

I hate Alabama...and feel the same about the SEC...but our coach makes great comments which are right on the mark.

Saban has been around the block -- he coached Michigan State and elsewhere to include failing in the NFL before becoming an SEC legend -- and is acutely aware of the problems of modern college football. He's talked about them in fact.

The sport needs a commissioner with power to have an impact and make changes. Saban is the logical guy. Sign me up.

Plus, few coaches have the experience of paying players to come and play at a particular school so he has great experience dealing with NIL.

 

[PSU4U]

PSU's Franklin: Saban should be commish of CFB

Penn State coach James Franklin says with the new landscape of NIL and the transfer portal, college football needs a commissioner, and the man for that job is Nick Saban.

www.espn.com

I am not a Saban fan, but not a terrible idea.

I could live with it and he probably would do a good job. Was a Big Ten Guy not that it means anything just that he knows the lay of the land with the big ten and now SEC. He would know I would think what needs fixed first and would be a JoePa like curmudgeon in getting it done. It will take a hard nosed guy IMO.

 

[roswelllion]

Word nerd here. No disrespect. You want ‘parity’ not ‘parody.’

none taken, are you related to LBear? BTW NFL parity in college would become a parody.

 

[roswelllion]

I’m not sure I want parody.

parity will be a parody.

Or--you agree in advance
Big Ten / SEC get 5 auto bids (10)
Big XII / ACC get 3 auto bids (6)
Everyone else gets 1 auto bid (so that's 6 with the Pac returning)
There's 22 spots with 2 at large--though ideally you just take away the at large and force ND to join
And I'm all for parity because I'm tired of this belief 9-3 is somehow a bad season and unworthy of the playoff when you've played a top 15 schedule. South Carolina was playing their best at the end of the year and that needs to be considered in we're "selecting" teams

We may get there but IMO that would not be a good solution.
. 12 Regular season, 1 CC, 5 playoff. Too long for college kids
. Now we'd have 1 vs 24 2 vs 23 etc?
. If you are any good and on teams say 16-24 will you opt out of playing 1-8?
. Are the 1st round games still home games? Furthering the disparity
. How many of these games will be "bowl games" requiring travel by fans
. If strength of schedule is the over arching determiner why not just look at SOS at the beginning of the season and start the playoffs in November. Then it would indeed be a parody.

 

[LandoComando]

We may get there but IMO that would not be a good solution.
. 12 Regular season, 1 CC, 5 playoff. Too long for college kids
. Now we'd have 1 vs 24 2 vs 23 etc?
. If you are any good and on teams say 16-24 will you opt out of playing 1-8?
. Are the 1st round games still home games? Furthering the disparity
. How many of these games will be "bowl games" requiring travel by fans
. If strength of schedule is the over arching determiner why not just look at SOS at the beginning of the season and start the playoffs in November. Then it would indeed be a parody.

We're not going to have CCGs for much longer--it's not needed (I also think the regular season should be 11) for if FCS can play 16 games why can't FBS?
1-8 get byes. The likelihood of 9-24 playing 5 games is slim to none. The entire thing should be at home until the finals--worst case semis are when bowl games start. See FCS. This is the frustrating part--we have the blueprint with FCS.
No one is ever opting out of a playoff game (and that means, to prepare for the draft--backups may transfers and that's fine)

For example, this year our quarter would have looked like:

Jacksonville State at #3 Alabama (at #2 Ohio State)
Missouri at #4 Arizona State (at #1 Penn State)

This is way better. Teams like Arizona State and Missouri have a chance to win a playoff game. Jacksonville State is actually rewarded for winning their conference. Penn State is rewarded with potentially 2 home games to get to the semis.
Penn State gets the type of round 16 game they should

Why does Jacksonville State even play in the current system? Pride?

 

[bourbon n blues]

Leave it as it is but do away with automatic byes for conference winners. Oregon gets one of course then we go with the next three ranked teams.

If they don't like that, drop the conference title games . Hell, just drop them anyway .

 

[AvgUser]

I hate Alabama...and feel the same about the SEC...but our coach makes great comments which are right on the mark.

Saban has been around the block -- he coached Michigan State and elsewhere to include failing in the NFL before becoming an SEC legend -- and is acutely aware of the problems of modern college football. He's talked about them in fact.

The sport needs a commissioner with power to have an impact and make changes. Saban is the logical guy. Sign me up.

Is one of those traits the power to have allowed Alabama in the CFP this year?

 

[Lion_Backer]

PSU's Franklin: Saban should be commish of CFB

Penn State coach James Franklin says with the new landscape of NIL and the transfer portal, college football needs a commissioner, and the man for that job is Nick Saban.

www.espn.com

I am not a Saban fan, but not a terrible idea.

Do you know who else is qualified and I think that would be a great commissioner, James Franklin.

I wouldn't want to lose him as our head coach but I do believe that he has the knowledge and skillset to do an effective job. If coach Saban were willing to take over on an interim basis while Commissioner Franklin takes a sabbatical.

Mostly TIC but I do believe that he could be a successful commissioner.

 

[jbenedict]

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He'd be great at overseeing a free for all. Let the best cheaters win!!!!

And bring back Hairbough to help him!!!!

I agree. His success was the result of doing NIL before it became legal. Ethically he is challenged. If ethics are not a requirement he may be the guy. He understands the intricacies in paying players. The damn of it is the NCAA never did anything to discourage this behavior.

 

[Jerry]

Plus, few coaches have the experience of paying players to come and play at a particular school so he has great experience dealing with NIL.

Is one of those traits the power to have allowed Alabama in the CFP this year?

Oh ye cynics...

Listen, as I noted above, I hate Alabama and the SEC as much as anybody, but it takes a thief to fix the thievery...because he knows it.

I'm responding to the thoughts of our coach, James Franklin, on the subject...and here's what he said:

>>I think one of the most important things we can do is, let's get a commissioner of college football that is waking up every single morning and going to bed every single night making decisions that's in the best interest of college football. I think Nick Saban would be the obvious choice if we made that decision. Now, Nick will probably call me tonight and say, 'Don't do this,' but I think he's the obvious choice, right?<<

On a related topic, Franklin added:

>>When you have a committee sitting in a room trying to compare apples to apples, or oranges to oranges, it's hard to do that when not everybody's playing under the same model. Get rid of the conference championship game. That will shorten the season and help with the window a little bit.<<

Franklin also suggested that every conference play the same number of league games. Crazy I know.

Franklin finished with this:

>>God forbid we talk about academics, right? That used to be every conversation started with academics and that's becoming less and less. Maybe I'm old school and maybe I'm a traditionalist, but I still believe in the model. Rather than just say this is a problem, I thought I would throw out a few recommendations, but I think one of the most important things we can do is let's get a commissioner of college football...Whenever you have people that are making decisions and running college football, they're going to be biased towards what's best to their conference, and that's not in the best interest of college football and the student athletes. If every decision we make is based on money, then we're heading in the wrong direction.<<

I agree with our coach on every one of those points.

 

[Ward Hog]

Someone in his station in life might be good as he would have no one to please and couldn't be easily influenced as he doesn't need money, fame or the job.

He clearly quit coaching because of all the crap head coaches have to deal with under the current system. Head coaches now have to always be on the job and must do a lot of what coaches aren't naturally designed to do. The playoff system, NIL and portal add a lot to the plate.

It's sales, marketing, management, negotiation, accounting, psychology, family relations, analytics, etc. before you even get to the the film, planning, practice and art of coaching. The staffs are now so large that just managing and planning with the employees takes hours per day. Something has to be done.

 

[PSU4U]

none taken, are you related to LBear? BTW NFL parity in college would become a parody.

Honest question in team sports isn't parity similar to mediocrity.

Probably just me but I don't want watered down college football. I tend to see regulated parity as welfare. It's probably just me though.

 

[LandoComando]

Honest question in team sports isn't parity similar to mediocrity.

Probably just be but I don't want watered down college football. I tend to see regulated parity as welfare. It's probably just me though.

No, parity isn't the definition of mediocrity
Team records in college football have been inflated because they don't play strong schedules. See SMU & Indiana.
The top teams will still win 10 or 11 games but they should have to work for it.
Penn State should not be playing Kent State or Bowling Green or Temple or anyone else on our future non-conference schedule
See the NFL, which we all agree is successful, and the number of teams that have more than 10 wins so far. That's what elite teams do. Indiana being 11-1 just proved they played no one. That's mediocrity and we need to see better games.

 

[roswelllion]

Honest question in team sports isn't parity similar to mediocrity.

Probably just be but I don't want watered down college football. I tend to see regulated parity as welfare. It's probably just me though.

Long answer but generally yes. Parity is mediocrity of outcome at least. Maybe not quality of play.
Here are a lot of random thoughts from reading these threads.

. Folks complain about blowouts, but then advocate expanding the playoffs.
. They say the bottom 4-12 teams [depending on what size field you want] have little to no chance to win but still feel there will be no opt outs.
. They want to eliminate conference championships. [serious question, isn't every school then like ND?] why have a conference.
. They want to mimic the NFL. Has anyone noticed the large number of blowouts in the NFL the last 3 as the haves and have nots faced each other.
. They want to mimic the NCAA March Madness. MM plays multiple games per location and teams play multiple games per week. Translating that to football. ????? BTw does anyone watch college basketball before the MM?
. Some folks advocate expanding playoffs to "settle in on the field" but want to overlook multiple regular season losses and prefer to look at strength of schedule.

My point in this rant as there are as many different objectives and viewpoints as there are people and many of them contradict each other or even themselves.

If your goal was to identify the "best team in CF" and looked back to the beginning of the BCS there are VERY FEW examples where you could dispute the end result.

Bowl games used to be a reward for the players [and fans] with many festivities. You read I'm sure what Franklin said yesterday. "This isn't like past bowl games, this is a business trip". For the fans which playoff game do you choose? Those days are gone forever I guess. I went to the peach last year and after all the opt outs i said that would be my last game.

I thought the 12 team playoff actually made for an interesting and exciting finish to the season. I also thought the competition was the most level in years. I have no problems with the first round byes to CC's. Had the ACC not been such a stinker this year it would seem almost normal. I would let things play out another year or two before changing anything.

 

[joeaubie21]

Was Franya drinking? Saban was a dreadful fraud and a cheat.