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Friday, July 14, 2017: Ryan Bagwell FOIA Docs Confirm 2nd Mile Criminal Deceptions (link)

and none of this will ever go anywhere but this site. The media could care less. It's only JVP's fault.
 
Will never see the light of day in the U.S. press.....It's way more sensational to bash an old now deceased icon....more empowering to the weak of character to bring down the image of an honorable man that achieved so much...who cooperated with the OAG and who cared enough to wish publicly and in his own words..... "In hindsight, I wish I had done more.' There are no Celebrities to bring down in the Second Mile just ordinary repeat offending average everyday criminals. So, where's the sensationalism and stroking of human emotions in that? None of the cove rup criminals would say they wish they had done more....because it would incriminate them for covering up and allowing people who are not experts in these matters to be fall guys to their benefit.
 
Interesting.....

TSM member says that all post-98 and 01 JS nonsense could have been avoided if TSM knew about those accusations. Yet, they DID know, and Ray lists a handful of people beyond Raykovitz who knew about 2001 (thanks to PSU / TC telling Jack about it!).

So, again we apparently have documentation that TSM knew, and did nothing. Well, except for Dr. Jack's sage wisdom about wearing swim trunks, aka the Great Preventer of CSA. (Not Speedos, though, I'd assume.)

Jack testifies that he was a proper reporting outlet for any suspicions. Yet, our guys are convicted of not reporting, even though they reported the incident to Jack.

Nothing further at this time. 5 minute recess, please..... I need to go scream at the top of my lungs at some inanimate object now, like perhaps the collective brain power of the OGBOT.
 
These should have been the first people with their heads on the chopping block.

They blatantly put kids at risk to protect their cash cow.

No matter where you come down on other parts and individuals in this thing everyone should agree TSM skating is the greatest injustice.

From the article:

Note that in November 2009, The State Board of Directors included Senator Jake Corman, former PSU Board of Trustees member and fundraising expert, Cliff Benson, Bruce Heim, Robert Poole, and Dr. Jack Raykovitz (who all knew of the 2001 allegations), and several other big corporate donors.

Yea, it's all just coinky-dink that all of these parties are also heavily tied to the corrupt MontCo-Hershey GOP Political Junta that produced both AG Corbutt and AG-turned-Governor Corbutt? Gee, what coincidence that the "front-man" for this corrupt Political Junta, Corbutt, named Cliff Benson to the PSU BOT as one of six "Governor's Appointees" as one of his last actions in 2014 after being voted out-of-office after one-term due to his extreme corruption and his unjust pillaging of PSU! What a coinky-dink that Corbutt recommended Louis "Liar for hire" Fact-Freeh who was also massively conflicted to The Second Mile via his work at MBNA with Rick Struthers (MBNA was a massive donor and supporter of Sandusky and TSM and was the sponsor of a "Sandusky Roast" and Fundraiser while Fact-Freeh was at MBNA! Here, since you're now so interested in all these conflicts of interest your lying heros had, is an article demonstrating just how corrupt Corbutt and his political pals truly are:


This directly from the article:

(it should be noted here that Mr Freeh claimed NO prior involvement with PSU prior to embarking on his Sandusky investigation--falsehood) Mr. Freeh served as Vice Chairman, General Counsel, Corporate Secretary and Ethics Officer to MBNA Corporation from 2001 to 2006. MBNA was a major corporate sponsor of Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile (and made a lot of money by having the credit card service account for Penn State—lucrative to both parties). In 2005, Louis Freeh was a speaker at the opening of a new MBNA business building at Penn State.

Yea, real nice - Frazier, Corbutt, Tomalis, Freeh, etc.... were lying through their teeth when they claimed that Freeh had "no connection" to PSU, PSU's corrupt OGBOT and all-powerful "Executive Committee", or no conflicts to Jerry Sandusky and his PERSONAL CHARITY, The Second Mile..... Go figure, "Birds of a feather, flock together" - this is especially true when talking about corrupt, self-serving, scumbag liars like the Ex-Gov-former-AG and his political cronies.

How about this doozie regarding Fact-Freeh's, head of "ethics" at MBNA, COIs:

Freeh was close friends with Ric Struthers, a Penn State graduate. Ric Struthers was a founding member of the management team of MBNA America which was the world’s largest affinity consumer lending company (active at Penn State). Struthers sat on the board of directors of Sandusky’s Second Mile until 2006. MBNA America was the lead sponsor for the MBNA Jerry Sandusky Testimonial Dinner and Roast, Friday, April 14, 2000.

Drain the "political cesspool and swamp" in PA indeed.....
 
I thought Ciprianos article quoted Bagwell as saying no evidence came to light that TSM did anything wrong? Am I missing something? I'm getting mixed messages here.
 
I thought Ciprianos article quoted Bagwell as saying no evidence came to light that TSM did anything wrong? Am I missing something? I'm getting mixed messages here.
did you read the article linked? If you had, you would not have made that comment.
 
did you read the article linked? If you had, you would not have made that comment.

From Cipriano's article on July 10:

"My overall view is that everything here [in the documents] seems to support the idea that The Second Mile didn't knowingly do anything wrong," Bagwell said. "The Penn Staters who are clamoring for heads at The Second Mile to roll, I don't think that's an outcome that's appropriate at this point in time."

Ray seems to have a different take on these interviews.
 
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From Cipriano's article on July 10:

"My overall view is that everything here [in the documents] seems to support the idea that The Second Mile didn't knowingly do anything wrong," Bagwell said. "The Penn Staters who are clamoring for heads at The Second Mile to roll, I don't think that's an outcome that's appropriate at this point in time."

Ray seems to have a different take on these interviews.
Ray addresses this via the comments, did you read that?
 
Ray is so thoroughly discredited on all of this.

"Cars for Kids" -- ARe you kidding me?

He only has rumors of an $1800 used Camry? This is evidence that a multi-million-dollar organization is "bribing" kids?????

Ray has been shown to be wrong about everything in this entire case, and is even more cowardly than Zigg.

Ray was a significant TSM donor/insider himself, so feel free to consider his "facts" in that light.
 
From Cipriano's article on July 10:

"My overall view is that everything here [in the documents] seems to support the idea that The Second Mile didn't knowingly do anything wrong," Bagwell said. "The Penn Staters who are clamoring for heads at The Second Mile to roll, I don't think that's an outcome that's appropriate at this point in time."

Ray seems to have a different take on these interviews.
Cipriano is working with people trying to get Jerry out of jail. All he's read or heard about are things which further that argument.

Ray has read everything possible on the subject. He's spoken to anyone that might have some realistically valuable information.

Cipriano basically just regurgitates Sandusky's appeal or posts something from Pendergast's upcoming book.
 
Interesting.....

TSM member says that all post-98 and 01 JS nonsense could have been avoided if TSM knew about those accusations. Yet, they DID know, and Ray lists a handful of people beyond Raykovitz who knew about 2001 (thanks to PSU / TC telling Jack about it!).

I'm not sure they knew about 1998 (in 1998), at least in an official capacity. It's never been clearly established that CYS/DPW notified them.
 
Cipriano is working with people trying to get Jerry out of jail. All he's read or heard about are things which further that argument.

Ray has read everything possible on the subject. He's spoken to anyone that might have some realistically valuable information.

Cipriano basically just regurgitates Sandusky's appeal or posts something from Pendergast's upcoming book.

I understand that. I'm more focused on Bagwell's quote in Cipriano's article. Ryan had been targeting TSM for wrongdoing in his whole document search...but from the quote he gave Cipriano it appears he's backed off that conclusion. Did Cipriano misquote him?
 
As has been widely speculated here....the evidence shows that if Tim and Gary warrant 2 months in prison, Raykovitz, Heim, Corman, Corbett, Fina etc. should get the chair.

What is especially troubling about the lies these FOIA docs show by multiple politically-connected TSM executives and board members is the fact that these lies regarding lack of TSM knowledge in regards to the DPW-Initiated V1 Investigation MATCH the exact same lies as AG-turned-Gov Corbutt administrations' lies in Nov 2011 regarding why TSM wasn't investigated when AG Corbutt received the DPW's "Indicated Report of CSA" involving TSM with a request to prosecute on 3/3/2009.

How is it that these parties in Corbutt's AG & Gov Administration are singing from the exact same hymnal regarding not being aware of TSM's involvement until late in the investigation after the Jan 2010 Bob Poole, Chairman of the Board of TSM, GOP Fundraiser, when the OAG's Presentment released 11/5/2011 literally calls TSM a fraudulent charity "Victim Factory" and theDPW "Indicated Report of CSA" with a request for LE prosecution received by AG Corbutt on 3/3/2009 states TSM's involvement as proven by Corbutt's very own V1 Statewide Investigating Grand Jury Application that he signed and submitted to his stollie, Judge Barry Fuedale on 5/1/2009?

All these parties at the Corbutt OAG and TSM should not all be telling the exact same false storylines unless they "coordinated" their stories.....and yet they were telling these same lies immediately following the release of the OAG Presentment and "False Narrative" Indictments.
 
Will never see the light of day in the U.S. press.....It's way more sensational to bash an old now deceased icon....more empowering to the weak of character to bring down the image of an honorable man that achieved so much...who cooperated with the OAG and who cared enough to wish publicly and in his own words..... "In hindsight, I wish I had done more.' There are no Celebrities to bring down in the Second Mile just ordinary repeat offending average everyday criminals. So, where's the sensationalism and stroking of human emotions in that? None of the cove rup criminals would say they wish they had done more....because it would incriminate them for covering up and allowing people who are not experts in these matters to be fall guys to their benefit.

Here we go again.
 
I understand that. I'm more focused on Bagwell's quote in Cipriano's article. Ryan had been targeting TSM for wrongdoing in his whole document search...but from the quote he gave Cipriano it appears he's backed off that conclusion. Did Cipriano misquote him?
I don't know. He may not have seen all the material Ray has.
 
I'm not sure they knew about 1998 (in 1998), at least in an official capacity. It's never been clearly established that CYS/DPW notified them.

That could be. I interpreted the information as the TSM person saying that 'if they had known' about 1998 (and 2001), as opposed to implying that they did know at the time. Kind of an 'ifs and buts' lament. But we know that TSM was told about 2001 by PSU Admin, whether that specific person knew that or not. The '98 case was fully vetted properly, even with the outcome such as it was.
While I can easily believe that none of them knew what they were dealing with, the onus was on Dr. Jack to investigate regardless of his personal feelings about JS. The others weren't trained as he is, and should not be expected to react the way Jack was/is trained to react to even a slight wisp of smoke.
Even though I believe the OAG and others fully know this, it is all for naught at this point.
 
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