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Grayson Allen

I guess, but next time he trips some kid who plays for some other school and he breaks a collarbone or something and has to miss half a season people will jump up and down for sure.

Yep. He has issues. No way around that, but the UNC guys acting like their $h!t doesn't stink the same day they got yet another letter from the NCAA is a joke. STFU and clean up your whole damn house before you worry about the mad tripper @Duke.
 
Yep. He has issues. No way around that, but the UNC guys acting like their $h!t doesn't stink the same day they got yet another letter from the NCAA is a joke. STFU and clean up your whole damn house before you worry about the mad tripper @Duke.

You don't know me very well sir.

For, if you did, you'd remember how "I" called for stiff penalties, suspensions, and forfeiture of games past played when the scandal originally broke.

Now, if you did include me in the STFU/clean house comments, you'd be mistaken.

Two very separate issues here.

Let's just see if you apologize now to me.
 
You don't know me very well sir.

For, if you did, you'd remember how "I" called for stiff penalties, suspensions, and forfeiture of games past played when the scandal originally broke.

Now, if you did include me in the STFU/clean house comments, you'd be mistaken.

Two very separate issues here.

Let's just see if you apologize now to me.

Yet...let's see if that happens. Good thing you have this to go after Duke for...makes you feel better I guess.

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Yet...let's see if that happens. Good thing you have this to go after Duke for...makes you feel better I guess.

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I luv ya laJolla you know that sir.

I DID...actually DID call for all of what I said.

I certainly do going after a dookie! What Tar Heel fan would not?

Hey, you might want to look up what past Tar Heel led the NBA in technicals sir.

You think a dookie doesn't have fun with that? HINT: He was from Philly.

Will I have to wait long for that apology sir??
 
I luv ya laJolla you know that sir.

I DID...actually DID call for all of what I said.

I certainly do going after a dookie! What Tar Heel fan would not?

Hey, you might want to look up what past Tar Heel led the NBA in technicals sir.

You think a dookie doesn't have fun with that? HINT: He was from Philly.

Will I have to wait long for that apology sir??

I'm feel so sorry for you that you even think I owe you an apology...how's that. ;)

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Allen is a tool at the very least. I wish we could bring Charles Oakley out of retirement for some old school one-on-one with Allen....I would pay money to see that!


Oak Tree, Anthony Mason, Mahorn, Xavier McDaniel, Orlando Woolridge, and all those goons who weren't afraid to throw down......I wish the kid from Elon had taken one of those stupid stools that they all sit on now away from the bench and fans, and smashed it over his head.
 
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He has been suspended indefinitely. Is that enough for you, or should he be drawn and quartered and his remains spread to the four corners of Carolina?
I kind of miss the four corners of Carolina. Dean Smith was really innovative.

I recall someone saying that if he only had two minutes left to live, he would want Dean Smith to orchestrate those two minutes.
 
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And folks wonder why others rip on Joe. K is an incredibly decent man. He has a lifetime of work and service proving that.
 
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1.) to me, the most telling part wasn't that he tripped the player, it was the meltdown on the bench afterwards. And I'm not getting spoiled, petulant child, although I understand where that attitude comes from when talking about Duke. The kid obviously has some issues he needs to deal with, probably not basketball related, and needs to see a psychologist/psychiatrist. That went way beyond a player irrationally pleading his case on a foul he didn't agree with, and to me, without the benefit of audio, did not look like a temper tantrum.

2.) those criticizing Coach K on this board are probably a bunch of hypocrites. How many times did Joe get praise for handing discipline "his way." Joe saying he's going to run his program the way he see fit, and he knows the players best and how to punish them. Looking at what he said, it was a bit eerie how much he sounded like Joe. Coach K said he didn't see the play until after the game. And after the game is when the suspension was handed down.

3.) I read an article that (of course) managed to connect the dots to Sandusky. However, the writer wasn't totally off base. Both programs view themselves as winning but doing it the right way, with strong academics, and the fan bases are both rightfully proud of that and a bit defensive about it when the program gets criticized for something like this incident.
 
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Someone on the Penn State Hoops board made an interesting observation. Tripping is so contrary to how you are taught to use your feet while playing basketball, he wondered if maybe there was something else at work here. He mentioned that about the only sport where people surreptitiously try to get away with tripping is in soccer and he wondered if Allen might have a soccer background. Sure enough, it turns out that Allen was primarily a soccer player as a kid growing up. He didn't really concentrate on basketball until he was a teenager when his parents made him make a choice between the two sports. Apparently, some of his soccer "footwork" has remained with him to this date. It certainly doesn't excuse the tripping but it does make it a bit more understandable as to why it seems to surface at times.
 
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with another tripping incident...third one in two years. I think he wants to be the villain a la Christian Laettner and JJ Redick, but he needs to realize he's not even close to those guys in terms of talent so he doesn't come across as the bad boy everyone hates, he just comes across as a spoiled little sh!t who wishes teams hated him because of his talent level.

If this kid had a tripping problem walking around on campus, rather than on a basketball court dressed as a Duke player, he'd be arrested for intentional reckless behavior.
 
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Someone on the Penn State Hoops board made an interesting observation. Tripping is so contrary to how you are taught to use your feet while playing basketball, he wondered if maybe there was something else at work here. He mentioned that about the only sport where people surreptitiously try to get away with tripping is in soccer and he wondered if Allen might have a soccer background. Sure enough, it turns out that Allen was primarily a soccer player as a kid growing up. He didn't really concentrate on basketball until he was a teenager when his parents made him make a choice between the two sports. Apparently, some of his soccer "footwork" has remained with him to this date. It certainly doesn't excuse the tripping but it does make it a bit more understandable as to why it seems to surface at times.
Gary Williams made an interesting comment on this. He said that kinds nowadays don't grow up playing on playgrounds the way kids used to, and that if you tried something like this on the playground you'd have to fight your way off the court.
 
Just gonna say - "Grayson Allen" just sounds like a kid born into a trust fund life with little accountability for his actions.

Did not, and don't have time to Google the kid, but....just the name itself sounds pretentious and spoiled.
Using surnames has first names has become popular over the last twenty years or so; something common in the South for much much longer. Names of saints are passe. Just the other day, at the dentist's office:mad:, I met an infant named Addison.

But, yeah. Used to be you hear a name like that and you think trust fund and Merion Cricket Club (mentioned by ckickenman in another thread).
 
I kind of miss the four corners of Carolina. Dean Smith was really innovative.

I recall someone saying that if he only had two minutes left to live, he would want Dean Smith to orchestrate those two minutes.
Ha! In the 1985 NCAAs, Villanova vs UNC, Dean Smith was out of timeouts with more than three minutes to play. Rollie made Smith look like an amateur. Villanova triumphed 56-44.

And the 4 corners offense was a clear sign of weakness and lack of confidence in his players. Smith was way overrated. He had the horses.
 
Ha! In the 1985 NCAAs, Villanova vs UNC, Dean Smith was out of timeouts with more than three minutes to play. Rollie made Smith look like an amateur. Villanova triumphed 56-44.

And the 4 corners offense was a clear sign of weakness and lack of confidence in his players. Smith was way overrated. He had the horses.

You are absolutely wrong in your analysis of a legendary coach.
 
Up early huh?

What's the matter, pee the bed again??

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God you're so bad at this...honestly. Bed wetting is the best you can come up with....seriously? Either you never developed past puberty or you are 80, but that is so GD weak. If you're going to bring it...at least bring it. Is the rubber glue line next? Do me a favor...PM your address and I'll send you a buck to buy a decent line. The funny thing is I was dead on about JO fans and you wanted an apology. Thanks for proving me right again spooge. Need my sources again dear sir.....LOL. Take it easy GLOV...go get the Blue Devils now...they'er evil. I'll step out of this thread...you aren't in that league yet.
 
God you're so bad at this...honestly. Bed wetting is the best you can come up with....seriously? Either you never developed past puberty or you are 80, but that is so GD weak. If you're going to bring it...at least bring it. Is the rubber glue line next? Do me a favor...PM your address and I'll send you a buck to buy a decent line. The funny thing is I was dead on about JO fans and you wanted an apology. Thanks for proving me right again spooge. Need my sources again dear sir.....LOL. Take it easy GLOV...go get the Blue Devils now...they'er evil. I'll step out of this thread...you aren't in that league yet.

Weak!
 
God you're so bad at this...honestly. Bed wetting is the best you can come up with....seriously? Either you never developed past puberty or you are 80, but that is so GD weak. If you're going to bring it...at least bring it. Is the rubber glue line next? Do me a favor...PM your address and I'll send you a buck to buy a decent line. The funny thing is I was dead on about JO fans and you wanted an apology. Thanks for proving me right again spooge. Need my sources again dear sir.....LOL. Take it easy GLOV...go get the Blue Devils now...they'er evil. I'll step out of this thread...you aren't in that league yet.
Glov never left high school judging by his posts. He's the first poster I put on ignore. I'm sure he'll have something silly to say about my above disparagement of Dean Smith. Just to remind him -- 77-74.
 
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