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Greatest "All Time" football programs

I've seen quite a few of these ratings and Alabama and OSU are always in the top 2 or 3.

Alabama is the top program that comes to mind in the last 15 years or so but they had some terrible teams in the 90s and early 2000s. OSU has had only 2 losing seasons since the mid 1960s which is just mind-boggling. They've been the most consistent program in the AP era

But the program that everyone seems to forget is Oklahoma who had some of the greatest teams of all-time under Wilkinson. Without looking it up, I believe they still hold the record for the most consecutive wins - 50 something I believe

The top 9 or 10 on this list are pretty much the Bluebloods of CF
 
Seriousl?. This is all subjective BS. Here's a question for the board.....who's the winningest program of all-time? End of story - the Michigan Wolverines are - without a doubt - the greatest CF program of all-time.
LOL...except to anyone who is alive today who has seen very little since 1997 (1948 before that) and an abysmal bowl record. I appreciate your fandom!

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Would have been solved in today's Playoff system no matter how hard some people defend the older way of rankings
Will definitely be solved with the 12 team playoff that's coming and I can't wait for further expansion of it to 16 20 or 24
 
Where would PSU be ranked if they were given the Nattys from 68, 69, 73 and 94.
Higher?
Honestly, look at the top 8--maybe we jump Nebraska because that costs them a title. Texas, USC, ND, Michigan, Oklahoma, Ohio State and Alabama are tough to argue. We may pass Nebraska soon depending on how Franklin and Rhule do but Georgia could easily pass us soon as well. Kirby Smart has a good 20-25 years left.
 
Agree but there will still be some loonies defending "the old way of doing things."
Oh I know--a lot of people here just love bowl games and I've still have not figured out why. It's illogical to want scrimmages instead of meaningful playoff games.
 
Oh I know--a lot of people here just love bowl games and I've still have not figured out why. It's illogical to want scrimmages instead of meaningful playoff games.
I travel around the different boards and you still see it on just about everyone of them. Go figure. I guess it's just about some people stuck in the past and refusing to change
 
Where would PSU be ranked if they were given the Nattys from 68, 69, 73 and 94.
I agree PSU got the short end of the stick a few times. I'll speculate that there are other fan bases that have complaints as well. I thought it was an interesting list. If I'm not mistaken, I thought the rankings were based upon AP rankings since 1936....not just some individual sportswriter. So if that's the case we can say that the AP has been anti PSU since the depression era.
 
I agree PSU got the short end of the stick a few times. I'll speculate that there are other fan bases that have complaints as well. I thought it was an interesting list. If I'm not mistaken, I thought the rankings were based upon AP rankings since 1936....not just some individual sportswriter. So if that's the case we can say that the AP has been anti PSU since the depression era.
i don't know that anyone has gotten the short end of the stick more than PSU. Maybe someone in the mountain west region has a similar gripe, but i can't think of someone who has had it quite as bad
 
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I've seen quite a few of these ratings and Alabama and OSU are always in the top 2 or 3.

Alabama is the top program that comes to mind in the last 15 years or so but they had some terrible teams in the 90s and early 2000s. OSU has had only 2 losing seasons since the mid 1960s which is just mind-boggling. They've been the most consistent program in the AP era

But the program that everyone seems to forget is Oklahoma who had some of the greatest teams of all-time under Wilkinson. Without looking it up, I believe they still hold the record for the most consecutive wins - 50 something I believe

The top 9 or 10 on this list are pretty much the Bluebloods of CF
The author has some recently bias, and has drank a hell of a lot of SEC Kool Aid. Neither Bama nor Saban are #1. Objectively speaking, Joe is unquestionably #1 and it isn't close. But, that is a different topic. Here, we are talking about college football programs. Just as Joe is objectively the #1 coach, there is an objectively #1 program.

1. Notre Dame. Bama, Michigan lose to claim a specious number of titles. If you apply the rules Michigan and Bama use to claim titles, Notre Dame claims 27. Love them or hate them, Notre Dame is #1.
2. USC. Again, not Bama. When applying the same rules, USC is clearly #2.
3. Bama. Despite the fact that Bama is the 2nd dirtiest team in history, the worst school on this list by a country mile, their tradition is very strong.
4. Oklahoma
5. Ohio State
6. Michigan
7. Penn State
8. Nebraska
9. Texas

After this, the difference is great. But, these nine teams, in this order are the tip of the spear. The best of the best.
 
Seriously?. This is all subjective BS. Here's a question for the board.....who's the winningest program of all-time? End of story - the Michigan Wolverines are - without a doubt - the greatest CF program of all-time.
Granted, Michigan's made a comeback the last two years since the below article was written. One-half of a national championship since 1950. 70+ seasons. That's it, and Michigan's bowl record is terrible. Those pesky games when you can't have Big 10 officials protecting you in a bowl game when you play a quality opponent at a neutral site and not a Directional Michigan University in the Big House.

One of college football's great traditions is Michigan's annual loss in a bowl game. Six bowl losses in a row for Jimbo. Nice. Bo would be proud. Plus, three victories over their arch-rival since 2004 and one cowardly opt out during Covid. You want to watch highlights when Michigan was elite? Forget ESPN Classic, try the History Channel.

 
It appears a point value was assigned by the author based on finish since 1936. Typically, we disagree with the bias of the AP voters over the last 86 years.
We Deserve Better
 
It appears a point value was assigned by the author based on finish since 1936. Typically, we disagree with the bias of the AP voters over the last 86 years.
We Deserve Better
So you want a large playoff and for bowls to die then right? That way things are decided on the field....
 
So you want a large playoff and for bowls to die then right? That way things are decided on the field....
What the hell are you talking about? You spew so much shit you don't even make sense.
 
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Five former Big 8/SWC members in the all-time top 25. The demise of those conferences came too soon; the original Big 12 + Arkansas likely remains intact if formed today with the shift from regional broadcast to national broadcasts/streaming.
 
If you don't care why did you post about the polls?
I posted an article that identified the top 25 programs based on AP rankings since 1936.
I didn't endorse every AP finish since '36 nor did I conjecture about their accuracy.
Once again, no one cares if you like the current system for determining the NC or not.
It has nothing to do with the article that I posted. You failed reading comprehension along with a whole host of other disciplines in your formative years.
 
I posted an article that identified the top 25 programs based on AP rankings since 1936.
I didn't endorse every AP finish since '36 nor did I conjecture about their accuracy.
Once again, no one cares if you like the current system for determining the NC or not.
It has nothing to do with the article that I posted. You failed reading comprehension along with a whole host of other disciplines in your formative years.
Read the post I responded to from you that started the back and forth. You just want to dictate how others respond to you and ignore what you actually said. You have an issue with how champs were determined in the past but still refuse to acknowledge how to remedy that situation but yeah I'm the problem. Glad you're delusional.
 
i don't know that anyone has gotten the short end of the stick more than PSU. Maybe someone in the mountain west region has a similar gripe, but i can't think of someone who has had it quite as bad

Well, name another team that has gone undefeated, untied and won a recognized "Major New Year's Day Bowl" over this period 5 times and only been declared #1 by the AP on 1 occassion by the AP over this span (i.e., not declared #1 4 different times during this span despite meeting this criteria) - heck name another team during the span that had it happen more than once, let alone 4 different times.
 
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I agree PSU got the short end of the stick a few times. I'll speculate that there are other fan bases that have complaints as well. I thought it was an interesting list. If I'm not mistaken, I thought the rankings were based upon AP rankings since 1936....not just some individual sportswriter. So if that's the case we can say that the AP has been anti PSU since the depression era.

BTW, were you aware that the AP only began posting their "Final Poll" after the Bowl games in 1968? Prior to 1968, the AP "Final Poll" was posted after the final regular season games, not after Bowl Games. From 1936 - 1968, there were many, many occasions where the named AP National Champion lost their subsequent bowl game. And the 1947 PSU Team was undefeated (9-0) and ranked 4th by the AP in their Final Poll.
 
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BTW, were you aware that the AP only began posting their "Final Poll" after the Bowl games in 1968? Prior to 1968, the AP "Final Poll" was posted after the final regular season games, not after Bowl Games. From 1936 - 1968, there were many, many occasions where the named AP National Champion lost their subsequent bowl game. And the 1947 PSU Team was undefeated (9-0) and ranked 4th by the AP in their Final Poll.
No I was not. Thank you.
 
Read the post I responded to from you that started the back and forth. You just want to dictate how others respond to you and ignore what you actually said. You have an issue with how champs were determined in the past but still refuse to acknowledge how to remedy that situation but yeah I'm the problem. Glad you're delusional.
I don't care how NC's were determined in the past. It's over. Again, I saw an article with a different twist on how to rate football programs all time. I found it interesting and unique. I posted it. I did not endorse, nor did I comment or critique.
I leave correcting past insults, mistakes and errors along with insightful solutions for the future to morons like you.
 
I don't care how NC's were determined in the past. It's over. Again, I saw an article with a different twist on how to rate football programs all time. I found it interesting and unique. I posted it. I did not endorse, nor did I comment or critique.
I leave correcting past insults, mistakes and errors along with insightful solutions for the future to morons like you.
Again not talking about the article. It was a good article for discussion. You specifically addressed a valid issue of how champs were determined yet can't acknowledge the moronic logic is to continue with something doesn't work. As I assumed even when you clearly stated why it doesn't work you refuse to adapt.
 
Again not talking about the article. It was a good article for discussion. You specifically addressed a valid issue of how champs were determined yet can't acknowledge the moronic logic is to continue with something doesn't work. As I assumed even when you clearly stated why it doesn't work you refuse to adapt.
It must be voices in your head.
 
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