...just watched the replay on Wrestling in 60...not sure Gross didn't stick himself in the sequence where Gross was awarded the nearfall.
Gross/RBY revisited...
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I've seen it called in high school. The kid was up by 13 points and had the 3 nearfall in the bag for the tech when the ref called the defensive fall.
I'm still trying to figure out how Mark got no back points against some dude from Iowa. Have watched it numerous times, still don't get it.
Less than a second. We went thru this frame by frame at the time, with the scoreboard time in the clip.
Kemmerer never broke 45 on that. I don’t know how he did it though. Talk about a buzzkill. . .
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Pin by Proxy!! Both of RBY’s shoulders were on Gross’s chest while Gross’s blades were on the mat! Lol. Sure! Why not?
"Some" would argue any point rather than admit RBY beat #2 and had a really close match with #1.
Then get some glasses. Great throw from Hall, but Kemerer used the momentum to roll through and stay off his back. It really wasn't that close either. You can maybe argue that Hall had a takedown for a split second before Kem came all the way through, but he wasn't even close to back points.
Saw it like nerf. Could have been awarded the takedown, I suppose, but the quick roll through and Kemerer's body position after (nearly vertical, certainly not 45) didn't warrant back points.
My eyes are just fine and Mark held him down on the mat, at minimum, it's a takedown. Obviously why Cael challenged the call. The announcers exact words, that's tight, yeah it's tight. That's not said without control.
Probably should have been a TD, but certainly not NF points
The referee apparently didn't know the rules then, if a tech fall is earned the only way that wrestler loses is by flagrant misconduct.
You sure about that? Top doesn't get the points until he releases the hold, right?
No TD. No Pin. Mark got out wrestled fair and square
Look it up in the rule book: "Once the technical fall has been earned, the offensive wrestler cannot lose the match." Key word is "earned" (not scored).
Maybe so but it definitely happened. When the ref called the fall everybody assumed the kid in the spladle got pinned until the ref raised his hand.
Then your blind like most in Carver. I never said a fall or back points, but that was a takedown.
No near fall or no pin, but, sorry, that was two.
Don't usually like to insert myself in these squabbles, but you did say back points. That's what drew my response. I definitely could see that being called a TD, but it is borderline, because that position allows for reaction time.
Kem's awareness to get his right leg out wide and both legs in the air is what saved him here. His hips are parallel with the mat, and his arms slip out of the hold with the extra leverage.
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i really get the feeling you don't know much about college wrestling in general. No takedown. No backs(like you did say) and no Pin. Excellent awareness by Kem to avoid all that. Everyone else at that weight gives up points. Keep those hips to the mat!
Ah, yes. The old hawkeye we know more, because....
Telling a mod he doesn't know what he's talking about ...
Telling a mod he doesn't know what he's talking about ...
I’m Spartacus then because it’s obvious the mod doesn’t know what he’s talking about. #ihadagoodrunhere
“I'm still trying to figure out how Mark got no back points against some dude from Iowa.“
“Then your blind like most in Carver. I never said a fall or back points, but that was a takedown.”
Yeah, meant to say TD. That was clearly 2 points, close to back points.Don't usually like to insert myself in these squabbles, but you did say back points. That's what drew my response. I definitely could see that being called a TD, but it is borderline, because that position allows for reaction time.
Kem's awareness to get his right leg out wide and both legs in the air is what saved him here. His hips are parallel with the mat, and his arms slip out of the hold with the extra leverage.
I don't care, I meant TD. Like he has any room to talk.Telling a mod he doesn't know what he's talking about ...
Wow...if I called out a mod like that over on HR I'd be banned.
Oh wait.... nevermind.
That's funny. We don't ban unless they go out of their way to call names or the other thing when they have no answer. I misspoke. It's the end of the world. I know nothing. Who cares. I've seen all their posts. Still saying RBY deliberately hurt AD. It is what it is.
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