hackenberg could dress and be active for jets vs brady. Wish him luck. Hell need it. Two teams going in different directions.
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Was thinking about this....with all the hand wringing about Hack, Wentz, and Goff...the best QB was taken in the fourth round. The means Goff, Wentz, Lynch, Hack, Brissett, Kessler, Connor Cook were all taken before Dak Prescott. That means 7 QB's drafted higher. Just goes to show how different the NFL is to college and how error prone QB evaluation is leading up to the draft.
Look how many skipped over Brady hope hack turns out to be one
Saying Prescott is the best QB is a little aggressive. He has a good team around him. He seems very good, but so did Foles his first season.
Some of these guys haven't had a chance to shine and maybe they will when they get surrounded by an excellent team.
LdN
QB evaluation is terrible. It's what leads to people drafting a guy like Hackenberg in the 2nd round, when he's shown the world for three years that he just is not good at playing quarterback. Height, weight, arm strength...who cares? Bad NFL scouts, that's who.
Duly noted. And i agree. But at this point, if you had to vote, it would hard to argue one of the other rookie QB's is better. The guy went 32 for 36 against a good team Sunday night. Wow.
I've been a jets fan since 1969 and I'm still waiting for the jets to have an excellent team. Lol
waaay premature to evaluate the recent draft class of QBs
Probably need 5 years to completely judge what kind of pro QBs they become; look at Aaron Rodgers, who was a backup for 3 years; some thought he would be very good, but he hadn't proved it yet.
Prescott has been impressive.
Just my opinion, I don't think Hack will be a star, or even a regular starter, at this level, but I hope he gets a fair shot.
Probably need 5 years to completely judge what kind of pro QBs they become; look at Aaron Rodgers, who was a backup for 3 years; some thought he would be very good, but he hadn't proved it yet.
Prescott has been impressive.
Just my opinion, I don't think Hack will be a star, or even a regular starter, at this level, but I hope he gets a fair shot.
Prescott was 32-36 the other night against the Bucs. You have to be damn accurate to have that kind of completion percentage, even if you're throwing to Lynn Swan, Jerry Rice and Gronk. He's my fantasy QB so I've followed him pretty closely all year...guy is the real deal. He's accurate and more importantly makes zero stupid mistakes. Looks like a 5 year veteran.
Dak has been phenomenal and I never expected him to do this well.
I have not seen a lot of the Eagles games but I was impressed with Wentz. I mean its not like he has a lot to work with
in the RB and WR dept.
I didn't like their decision to go for 2 at the end.
Prescott has an excellent offense to play behind. How would he do with the Rams offense?
Agree on Wentz...and agree with those that say you've got to wait for five years; but what fun is that?
I am just happy the Eagles have tanked. The trade may end up being a good win/win for both the Browns and Eagles. the Eagles, further along, get a good QB. The Browns aren't ready for a good rookie QB as he'll get killed (as evidence that five QB's have missed a game due to injury this year for the Browns).
As it stands right now, Browns have the first and eighth pick in the April draft. Word is they'd love to drop down a couple of spots to get more first and second rounders.
BTW, Nassib having a terrible second half of the year....fans are starting to think he is a bust.
That's great. I love Dak Prescott. However, calling him the best of the lot is premature. At this point we haven't seen 3 of the 6 or so even play enough to show anything.
In the end this is a discussion about Hack that has evolved as a scapegoat for people completely missing the fact that he wasn't very good.
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He is playing with essentially the same Cowboys offense as last year except for Elliott, and they were terrible. Meanwhile Prescott has put up one of the best rookie QB seasons ever. For all we know, the Rams might be a winning team if he was their QB.
Fair question. But Prescott has effectively beaten out a perennial pro bowl QB in Romo. That would not happen unless he was something special. How about the cowboys scouting department? Romo was an undrafted free agent and Prescott was taken much later in the draft then one would expect to find a pro ready QB. Talk about finding diamonds in the rough. It amazes me how often pro scouting departments miss the boat on these kinds of guys. Dak was a stud at Miss State so it is not like he was under the radar.
OK...made a note to start a thread on this in 2021.
You could start a thread today about the 2012 class. That would be equivalent.
Here you go:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NFL_Draft
Funny I recall an argument of sorts with you about how I thought Richardson sucked and you quoted how great of a rookie season he was having.
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Kind of makes some fans on this board REALIZE how IMPORTANT an OL is. Prescott is playing behind the best in football (and a young one), so his future is bright on the cowboys. Foles had a similar year, maybe better, behind, at that time an outstanding OL (but an older one that fell apart).
I wonder if the PSU OL had anything to do with our struggles the last few years? You think !!!
I wonder if the PSU OL had anything to do with our struggles the last few years? You think !!!
How good is the Cowboy scouting department?. Well if they really know what they were doing, they wouldn't have waited to the 4 th rd to take Prescott and giving 31 other teams a chance to take him 3 times! Same thing w Romo
John Donovan ruined Hack. Possibly forever but he picked up so many bad habits and lost all confidence there is really a long time before he can be successful on a field. His deep ball and measurable were always going to get him drafted earlier than maybe he should but his head is not right back there. Smart kid too, just unbelievable the difference from O'Brien to Donovan.
Donovan is consulting for Jacksonville Jags now. Blake Bortles is having a horrific season. JD is poison to qbs. They were never good at Vandy either.
Hack deserves some blame too of course, but O line, scheme, and JD torched Hack.
Donovan is consulting for Jacksonville Jags now. Blake Bortles is having a horrific season. JD is poison to qbs. They were never good at Vandy either.
Hack deserves some blame too of course, but O line, scheme, and JD torched Hack.
They tried trading up for Paxton Lynch and then tried trading up for Connor Cook but Raiders beat them to it. Don't be fooled, Cowboys had no idea. I like Dak as a Russy Wilson type who can move but never imagined this. I also don't think he's this successful for any other team because of the O line and run game a rookie QB best friend. Not to mention an elite WR and reliable TE.
Sometimes you are just a victim of circumstance. In the NFL, i think that is often.
The idea of "learning the game" watching a team as pathetic as the Jets, from the sidelines, is laughable. I tried to make a case for them to just put him in the god damn game and get him some experience, but of course that sorry ass franchise just trotted out Petty, and proceeded to get shellacked by a mediocre Miami team.
Not sure why in the hell they would even bother now, but it would be SO "JETS" of them, to wait until the final game of the year, run Hack out there, and watch him go 20-28 for 307 yards and 4 TD's and win the game, lmao.
Not sure why in the hell they would even bother now, but it would be SO "JETS" of them, to wait until the final game of the year, run Hack out there, and watch him go 20-28 for 307 yards and 4 TD's and win the game, lmao.
They did listen. They were tired of doing the wrong thing on the field every time, so they logged on to this board, read gunsie's advice re Hack, and did the opposite. Hard to go wrong with that strategy.
Not meant to disparage Prescott but just a reminder that one season doesn't predict a career.
Prescott 14 games 292/431 67.7% 3418 yds 20 td 4 int rating 103.2...52 arts 238 yds 6 tds rushing....
RGIII rookie yr 15 games 258/393 65.6 % 3200 yards 20 tds 5 int rating 102.4...Rushing 120 atts 815 yards 7 tds
But, WRONG they went. Losing big to the Dolphins without any kind of an offense to speak of.
Try and filter your mouth before you talk shit that proves YOU wrong.
Why is he playing with a broken hand in the first place? More than half of the franchises in the show would have him on I.R.
See, another example of why they need to blow that situation and implode back to 31 teams. That's not an NfL franchise. Hey, as long as they want to give my steelers two automatic wins every year, no complaints, I will take the two auto wins every year and guarantee 10-6 at worst.
