Herbie the Homer Hypocrite

[NittanyOpp]

Anyone see this crap tonight?

Herbie pounding his chest for OSU to be in over 1 loss Bama. He says OSU is playing better this month (they did lose on November 4th to Iowa by 31) than Bama and OSU even with 2 losses, one being to a powerhouse in Oklahoma (said powerhouse beat OSU by 20 at the Shoe but loss to unranked Iowa St at home) should be in because they will have won conference championship.

Excuse me Herbie, but didn't you just sit on that panel last year and say PSU should not be in over OSU because they won on a fluke play and OSU was clearly better because they had only one loss despite losing to PSU head2head? So now, the shoe is on the other foot and Mr. Hypocrite is again using his media persuasion to influence Kirby who seems to agree this year with Herbie despite doing exactly the opposite last year.

Sorry, needed to vent, this just absolutely disgusts me. And to those who defend Herbie for being objective and defending PSU when he can, explain this then. The guy is nothing but a 2 faced homer hypocrite who has no business being in his position because he cannot be objective. It was like he wanted to cry when he saw OSU 8th and its the first thing he brought up when they turned to him.

 

[91Joe95]

Herbie has been this way for a long time.

 

[bxle]

Wasn’t the message last year that the committee got it right when excluding the B1G champion? So what has changed if OSU wins?

If you discount the B1G championship, then wouldn’t it just be one loss Bama v two loss OSU if OSU wins?

 

[78SweetRevenge]

He was right last year...he also supported us getting in over Washington last year. Ohio State 2016 resume >>>>>>>> Penn State 2016 resume. It wasn't even close.

He's not a homer by any definition. You're creating bias that doesn't exit because of your bias

 

[KCLion]

Anyone see this crap tonight?

Herbie pounding his chest for OSU to be in over 1 loss Bama. He says OSU is playing better this month (they did lose on November 4th to Iowa by 31) than Bama and OSU even with 2 losses, one being to a powerhouse in Oklahoma (said powerhouse beat OSU by 20 at the Shoe but loss to unranked Iowa St at home) should be in because they will have won conference championship.

Excuse me Herbie, but didn't you just sit on that panel last year and say PSU should not be in over OSU because they won on a fluke play and OSU was clearly better because they had only one loss despite losing to PSU head2head? So now, the shoe is on the other foot and Mr. Hypocrite is again using his media persuasion to influence Kirby who seems to agree this year with Herbie despite doing exactly the opposite last year.

Sorry, needed to vent, this just absolutely disgusts me. And to those who defend Herbie for being objective and defending PSU when he can, explain this then. The guy is nothing but a 2 faced homer hypocrite who has no business being in his position because he cannot be objective. It was like he wanted to cry when he saw OSU 8th and its the first thing he brought up when they turned to him.

And add that PSU was playing far better down the stretch last year than OSU.

 

[NittanyOpp]

He was right last year...he also supported us getting in over Washington last year. Ohio State 2016 resume >>>>>>>> Penn State 2016 resume. It wasn't even close.

He's not a homer by any definition. You're creating bias that doesn't exit because of your bias

How you can't see how big a hypocrite that guy is well way beyond me.

 

[psuro]

On Wisconsin.

 

[NittanyOpp]

He was right last year...he also supported us getting in over Washington last year. Ohio State 2016 resume >>>>>>>> Penn State 2016 resume. It wasn't even close.

He's not a homer by any definition. You're creating bias that doesn't exit because of your bias

"not even close" but PSU beat OSU straight up and won the conference championship game that OSU did not even play in. Right buddy, go back to your Buckeye board.

 

[AWS1022]

He was right last year...he also supported us getting in over Washington last year. Ohio State 2016 resume >>>>>>>> Penn State 2016 resume. It wasn't even close.

He's not a homer by any definition. You're creating bias that doesn't exit because of your bias

If he's pushing for OSU to get in this year under any circumstances, then he's a homer. I didn't see the show, but if he's sayin OSU deserves to be in then it can only be a homer call. I like Herbie in general, but in these situations he does make himself look bad.

 

[78SweetRevenge]

How you can't see how big a hypocrite that guy is well way beyond me.

He's not...ask Ohio State fans. We're literally the only fan base I've spoken to with an issue with Herbie. Most like him. He's the best in the business. He was right last year. I don't think Ohio State gets in over Bama but Bama doesn't have a single quality win. Ohio State would have 3 (Wisconsin, Penn State and Michigan State) better than anything on Bama's resume. Bama's eye-test is better. It will be very interesting. But there's no bias...none

 

[chiro31]

Herbie has been this way for a long time.

#cockstreit

 

[78SweetRevenge]

"not even close" but PSU beat OSU straight up and won the conference championship game that OSU did not even play in. Right buddy, go back to your Buckeye board.

Right not close...we won at home by single digits. We had two bad losses. They had a win over OU. The committee made it clear. Most agree with his opinion. I love how being to understand the logic behind something makes me an Ohio State fan. Take your bias out of it instead of creating false bias with Herbie

 

[PSU Dave]

He was right last year...he also supported us getting in over Washington last year. Ohio State 2016 resume >>>>>>>> Penn State 2016 resume. It wasn't even close.

He's not a homer by any definition. You're creating bias that doesn't exit because of your bias

Wrong. His comments tonight were who are the best 4 teams at the end of the year. You can’t tell me that OSU was playing better ball at the end of last year than PSU. Sorry. Funniest comment tonight was him arguing that if they beat Wisconsin that the conf championship has to count for something. Herbie is an ass clown like all the others. He just does it in a nicer way.

 

[AWS1022]

Right not close...we won at home by single digits. We had two bad losses. They had a win over OU. The committee made it clear. Most agree with his opinion. I love how being to understand the logic behind something makes me an Ohio State fan. Take your bias out of it instead of creating false bias with Herbie

Mr. Unbiased is still at it.

 

[78SweetRevenge]

By the way...the only way Ohio State gets in this year is if Auburn, Oklahoma and Miami win. They probably get in over Miami but Clemson still might get in over them.

 

[AWS1022]

He's not...ask Ohio State fans. We're literally the only fan base I've spoken to with an issue with Herbie. Most like him. He's the best in the business. He was right last year. I don't think Ohio State gets in over Bama but Bama doesn't have a single quality win. Ohio State would have 3 (Wisconsin, Penn State and Michigan State) better than anything on Bama's resume. Bama's eye-test is better. It will be very interesting. But there's no bias...none

Wrong again....I lived in WV for years and everyone I know there (all WVU fans) think he's completely biased in favor of OSU....thanks for playing though.

 

[AWS1022]

By the way...the only way Ohio State gets in this year is if Auburn, Oklahoma and Miami win. They probably get in over Miami but Clemson still might get in over them.

Bama should still get in over them in that case.

 

[78SweetRevenge]

Wrong. His comments tonight were who are the best 4 teams at the end of the year. You can’t tell me that OSU was playing better ball at the end of last year than PSU. Sorry. Funniest comment tonight was him arguing that if they beat Wisconsin that the conf championship has to count for something. Herbie is an ass clown like all the others. He just does it in a nicer way.

How? What happened to Ohio State at the end of the year last year that suggested they weren't? Before Clemson. Losing to us on a blocked FG?

Again, Herbie said repeatedly Penn State > Washington for the 4 spot which was the only discussion last year.

 

[NittanyOpp]

He's not...ask Ohio State fans. We're literally the only fan base I've spoken to with an issue with Herbie. Most like him. He's the best in the business. He was right last year. I don't think Ohio State gets in over Bama but Bama doesn't have a single quality win. Ohio State would have 3 (Wisconsin, Penn State and Michigan State) better than anything on Bama's resume. Bama's eye-test is better. It will be very interesting. But there's no bias...none

You want me to ask Ohio State fans like yourself if Herbie is a homer? Yeah they will be objective. And no the Big 12 fans can't stand him either. I can objectively say OSU should have gotten in last year over Washington but Penn St should have gotten in last year over Washington AND Ohio St if we are using Herbie's criteria this year and apparently Kirby's too. Herbie did not feel that way last year and now he does feel that way, suddenly when it benefits your Buckeyes. Get lost buddy, you are either a Buckeye fan or someone who just likes to argue on the internet for any reason.

 

[78SweetRevenge]

Wrong again....I lived in WV for years and everyone I know there (all WVU fans) think he's completely biased in favor of OSU....thanks for playing though.

Explains so much. That's why he moved to Tennessee...mhmm

 

[AWS1022]

Again, Herbie said repeatedly Penn State > Washington for the 4 spot which was the only discussion last year.

Just because you keep saying this doesn't make it true.

 

[Lion8286]

Posters need to remember that 78SweetRevenge is an Ohio State fan. Keep that in mind when responding to his posts.

 

[78SweetRevenge]

You want me to ask Ohio State fans like yourself if Herbie is a homer? Yeah they will be objective. And no the Big 12 fans can't stand him either. I can objectively say OSU should have gotten in last year over Washington but Penn St should have gotten in last year over Washington AND Ohio St if we are using Herbie's criteria this year and apparently Kirby's too. Herbie did not feel that way last year and now he does feel that way, suddenly when it benefits your Buckeyes. Get lost buddy, you are either a Buckeye fan or someone who just likes to argue on the internet for any reason.

We should have gotten in over Washington but not Ohio State. It wasn't even close. Alabama 2017 isn't close to Ohio State in 2016---you realize that's the comparison right. Alabama doesn't have a quality win. Ohio State had a killer resume last. Unlike you I can look at things objectively--try it. We'll get along great.

 

[NittanyOpp]

How? What happened to Ohio State at the end of the year last year that suggested they weren't? Before Clemson. Losing to us on a blocked FG?

Again, Herbie said repeatedly Penn State > Washington for the 4 spot which was the only discussion last year.

It should NOT have been the only discussion. Maybe to you as a Buckeye fan, but based on what he is saying this year clearly PSU should have been in over OSU last year.

 

[AWS1022]

Explains so much. That's why he moved to Tennessee...mhmm

So by moving to another state you change your allegiance to the school you went to and played for? Hell, I'm a PSU grad, have lived in three different states, and never stopped being a PSU fan.

 

[NittanyOpp]

Posters need to remember that 78SweetRevenge is an Ohio State fan. Keep that in mind when responding to his posts.

He has made that very clear in this thread. EXPOSED

 

[lionville]

Right not close...we won at home by single digits. We had two bad losses. They had a win over OU. The committee made it clear. Most agree with his opinion. I love how being to understand the logic behind something makes me an Ohio State fan. Take your bias out of it instead of creating false bias with Herbie

You must have missed the playoff game last year where OSU got crapped on by Clemson. You know, the one where the zero on the OSU side of the scoreboard never changed.

To say OSU was the right choice last year shows YOUR bias.

 

[78SweetRevenge]

Just because you keep saying this doesn't make it true.

Aside from Kirby saying it over and over and over again after the announcement. "We never compared Penn State and Ohio State head to head". NEVER

 

[NittanyOpp]

So by moving to another state you change your allegiance to the school you went to and played for? Hell, I'm a PSU grad, have lived in three different states, and never stopped being a PSU fan.

Grew up in NY, lived in Ohio, now Michigan. Still loyal AF to PSU. More stupidity from the Buckeye fan. Get out!

 

[PSU Dave]

We should have gotten in over Washington but not Ohio State. It wasn't even close. Alabama 2017 isn't close to Ohio State in 2016---you realize that's the comparison right. Alabama doesn't have a quality win. Ohio State had a killer resume last. Unlike you I can look at things objectively--try it. We'll get along great.

Yep. They proved it too in their playoff game.

 

[78SweetRevenge]

You must have missed the playoff game last year where OSU got crapped on by Clemson. You know, the one where the zero on the OSU side of the scoreboard never changed.

To say OSU was the right choice last year shows YOUR bias.

You know the Clemson game happened AFTER the committee selected teams, right? What does that have to do with the selection?

 

[78SweetRevenge]

Grew up in NY, lived in Ohio, now Michigan. Still loyal AF to PSU. More stupidity from the Buckeye fan. Get out!

Again, not an Ohio State fan--I just don't hate every team that's not my team. Ohio State earned their spot last year. So did Clemson. So I Bama. We got screwed because of Washington. Washington should have been penalized for SOS just like OSU was rewarded for it.

 

[PeetzPoolBoy]

I thought it was really “cute” how Herstreit and Joey Galloway “tag-teamed” to shamelessly whore themselves for ...OSU.....and yet none of the other “on-air personalities” ever called them out for their obvious hypocrisy.

The CFP process is becoming more subjective and political with each passing year. It’s now a joke

 

[78SweetRevenge]

You don't judge a decision based on something unknown at the time. We have to look at the resumes at the time of the selection. Why is that difficult to comprehend. It's also odd that the same people that wanted only conf champs now want Bama because they don't want Ohio State. I think bama > Ohio State too but I'm consistent.

 

[AWS1022]

We should have gotten in over Washington but not Ohio State. It wasn't even close. Alabama 2017 isn't close to Ohio State in 2016---you realize that's the comparison right. Alabama doesn't have a quality win. Ohio State had a killer resume last. Unlike you I can look at things objectively--try it. We'll get along great.

So the multiple sports personalities who thought PSU should have gotten in over OSU last year were not being objective....and only people who agree with you are being objective. Ok, got it.

 

[NittanyOpp]

You don't judge a decision based on something unknown at the time. We have to look at the resumes at the time of the selection. Why is that difficult to comprehend. It's also odd that the same people that wanted only conf champs now want Bama because they don't want Ohio State. I think bama > Ohio State too but I'm consistent.

I never wanted only conf champs. I wanted the 4 best teams. PSU was better than OSU last year, they beat them and won their division and won their conference.

And the point of this thread is to expose Herbie for the Homer Hypocrite he is because last year he sat on that panel and said exactly the opposite he is saying this year. Both years work in OSU favor.

Otherwise, lets say PSU only lost by 1 to OSU at the end of the game after leading for 58 minutes. Fluke win for OSU.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

How you can't see how big a hypocrite that guy is well way beyond me.

He’s a troll.

Herbie is an OSU shill and proved it, yet again, tonight.

 

[AWS1022]

Aside from Kirby saying it over and over and over again after the announcement. "We never compared Penn State and Ohio State head to head". NEVER

I heard him on talk radio discuss that they looked at all comparisons (which is their job). I paid very close attention last year and PSU-OSU was discussed constantly. In the end, OSU got in and PSU didn't, so they had to think OSU deserved it more than PSU and Washington...correct?

 

[fastlax16]

I thought it was really “cute” how Herstreit and Joey Galloway “tag-teamed” to shamelessly whore themselves for ...OSU.....and yet none of the other “on-air personalities” ever called them out for their obvious hypocrisy.

The CFP process is becoming more subjective and political with each passing year. It’s now a joke

Galloway was pro PSU last season and said H2H needed to matter.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

I heard him on talk radio discuss that they looked at all comparisons (which is their job). I paid very close attention last year and PSU-OSU was discussed constantly. In the end, OSU got in and PSU didn't, so they had to think OSU deserved it more than PSU and Washington...correct?

Yeah, there are articles you can find where they talk about comparing OSU and PSU last year. This guy is one note - ignore him.