Fair...I mean, do none of you actually understand why Ohio State got in over us?
Herbie the Homer Hypocrite
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Not agreeing with it doesn't mean we don't get it. Quit acting like your smarter than everyone on the board and that we're all morons. Do you not understand that beating a team and winning the conference always results in a playoff appearance in other sports?
I do. You don't believe ALL conference winners should be included. See Sun Belt MAC MWC CUSA AAC. You can't have it both ways. All in or this system
I read the first half of this thread and was like "who are they talking about? who's the blowhio state fan??" then I read the name we do not speak of, and realized oh yeah, this is not making sense because I have that toolbag on ignore. Just got sick of his schtick. He knows everything, just ask him. and if you disagree with him, out comes the condescending patronizing nonsense. Responding to him is like clicking on Clay Travis articles. he's looking for responses so he can work his schtick. Seriously people, just ignore this clown...
FYSA, I've lived in NC for the past almost 10 years. I'm still a penn state/eagles/flyers/phils fan. Anyone that claims to be a fan of a team, then moves to another place and shills for that team, isn't a fan at all. go away and let the adults converse...
FYSA, I've lived in NC for the past almost 10 years. I'm still a penn state/eagles/flyers/phils fan. Anyone that claims to be a fan of a team, then moves to another place and shills for that team, isn't a fan at all. go away and let the adults converse...
I can have it both ways....simply by making it all P5 conference winners and the highest ranked conference winner of the remaining conferences. There's no rule that says they have to include every podunct conference out there.
Actually the real reason I am upset is that the committee ignored their own guidelines. You keep claiming that PSU and OSU were not "comparable". That is your only argument and frankly it's ridiculous. You claim PSU loses early in the season disqualify us but ignore the guidelines that tell the committee to consider key injuries. You ignore the fact that the first guideline and number 1 emphasis is conference championships. You ignore the fact that head to head is one of the guidelines. You ignore the fact that the guidelines admonish the polls for often not considering those factors. You hang your entire argument on being able to pick and choose only one of the criteria. Simple truth is, just like the committee, you ignore the criteria to get your favorite team in, OSU. I suggest you read the criteria "objectively". Here's a link for you.
http://www.collegefootballplayoff.c...0//CFP_Selection_Committee_Protocol.pdf?id=23
Then let the four other conferences have a play in tournament and the winner goes into the 8 team playoff. If they want to cut their season down to allow time for extra games, then they can do that. The rest of the P5 teams should not have to cut regular season games to make room for them to be involved. If they really want to be in the mix then they can make the changes.
Those guidelines are with "comparable teams
Again, not an Ohio State fan--I simply accepted we weren't comparable last year. You don't. That's fine but in this system the committee determines that. If we had a real playoff we wouldn't be complaining because we would have been included the last two years.
Again, there's no rule that says it has to be like other sports. It's not like other sports now. The goal is not to make it like other sports, it's to make it better than it is now and hopefully better than other sports. Maybe some other sports should change the way they do it...like college basketball. Too many teams that will never win the tournament. Too many first round blowouts and too easy of a path for the 1 and 2 seeds.
In terms of football, the FCS schools have their own playoffs, why can't the GO5 schools have their own?
In terms of basketball, a 15 has very rarely beat a 2 and a 16 has never beat a 1. So eliminating the 16's would have never changed anything except giving the 1's a practice game. Eliminating the 15's would have had a small blip of a change a couple of times....not really altering history by eliminating the cupcake conferences. But adding in bubble teams from the P5 conferences could have made huge differences.
That's fine...split FBS into two levels but unless that happens it has to be all inclusive or it's still a joke. 16 is simple...and easy
I didn't watch the show, nor will I ever plan on watching it. That said, Ohio State has absolutely no rightful place as one of the top four teams in the country. They were crushed by 30+ to an OK Iowa team within the last month. Doesn't pass the eye test. Herbie saying they do deserve it (assuming the OP is accurate) doesn't pass the homer smell test.
OSU would get in over Alabama because Alabama doesn't have any good wins. It's best win is LSU at 17, who lost to Troy. OSU with a win over Wisconsin would have #4 Wisconsin, #9 PSU, and #16 MSU. Committee has said in general it looks at best wins over the best/worst loss. OSU got in last year because it had 3 top 10 wins (OU, UW, UM).
I love when losses are just suddenly ignored in 2017 and weren't in 2018. Further, I love when schedules are ignored in 2016 when they aren't in 2017.
Really don't care to see Ohio State get it's ass kicked by Clemson again, and that's what would happen.
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I agree he was right last year. Totally disagree as to whether it was close. It couldn’t have been closer. And if we’d have pulled it off and beaten them this year, we’d likely be in the catbird’s seat. If only...
And while I also get frustrated by Herbstreit when he does his inevitable lobby for his school To the detriment of ours or others, I also don’t really watch him much. He’s a plant and a good analyst—or talking head.
And if ESPN didn’t want an OSU cheerleader behind the mic, they wouldn’t have hired an OSU QB to sit behind the mic. His objectivity when it doesn’t matter just bolsters his credibility for when it does. If it’s a toss up and osu is involved, it’s unreasonable to expect him to overcome his bias.
They got exactly what they wanted and they knew what they were buying. And he’s good at what he does.
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I don’t expect them to get in. And if they do, highly doubtful they’d win it all. But who knows. Every team has warts this year.
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OK you have confirmed to me that you have NOT even read the criteria. Under the committee's own rules PSU and OSU are certainly comparable. Similar records and pedigree. To claim that PSU and OSU are not "comparable" is simply ludicrous.
Only conference champions should get into a playoff and ALL conference champions should be in. Ideally ncaa realigns to 8 conferences and then there is an 8 team playoff. No lucky losers like OSU last year or possibly Alabama this year. Winning championships should matter. No more eye tests. No more "comparable" bologna. No more twistable "rules" that aren't, just winners.
Winning always matters. PSU didn't win this year so they have no argument, just wait till next year.
That 31 to 0 demonstrates they tOSU didn’t deserve to be there.
Oh, and losing a close game to Pitt was as big a deal
Not bad 78.. 230 likes! You have managed to fool alot of people here. Quite impressive. I mean, the board usually calls out trolls and puts them on ignore really quick. But for some odd reason you have managed to keep on rolling. I'm impressed with the troll job. Consider me a fan!
Herbie is nothing but a cockroach, always has and always will be. He will do anything to get the bucks in. Tha cfb will go down in smoke if they let those asses in
What I find totally hilarious is when they do their picks at the end of College GameDay and Herbie passes on the ABC 8pm game because "he has the game" ... and has to be neutral. As if Herbstriet is not opinionated and biased. Everyone knows he is a schill for Ohio State so he lost his objectivity right there. So just go ahead and make the pick on the 8pm ABC game.
So if you don't include four teams that will never win a championship, did nothing during the season to earn a spot, played cupcakes week after week, then it's a joke....got it.
The whole problem with this system is the fans dont understand the rules. They cant understand because there is no consistency. The comittee put out criteria only to ignore it. They make up criteria on the spot. Somehow the made up criteria always seems to favor Ohio St.
If the comittee truly didnt talk about the #3 team in its rankings vs the #5 team last year thats a problem and it doesnt pass the eye, smell or any other test you want to throw at it.
This year Herbie wants the criteria to matter. He talked how confernce championship is the number one thing listed on the criteria and how much it should matter. Last year he didnt think it should matter at all.
I truly think the comittee doesnt want two teams from the same conference in. So Big 12 winner, Big Ten winner, ACC winner and SEC winner are going to get in. Last year their Big Ten winner was Ohio St. We didnt get in over Washington because they didnt want two Big Ten teams.
If the comittee truly didnt talk about the #3 team in its rankings vs the #5 team last year thats a problem and it doesnt pass the eye, smell or any other test you want to throw at it.
This year Herbie wants the criteria to matter. He talked how confernce championship is the number one thing listed on the criteria and how much it should matter. Last year he didnt think it should matter at all.
I truly think the comittee doesnt want two teams from the same conference in. So Big 12 winner, Big Ten winner, ACC winner and SEC winner are going to get in. Last year their Big Ten winner was Ohio St. We didnt get in over Washington because they didnt want two Big Ten teams.
OSU got destroyed twice this year - they no way deserve to be in the playoffs even if they beat Wisky. Bama will have 1 loss so based on how last year played out they should hands down be in over OSU but Herbie ever the hypocrite is working the other side of the street this year. We didnt deserve to be in last year and OSU doesn't deserve it this year.
Remind me of Washington's "good" wins last year - they make the rules up as they go which is BS.
one of the biggest stinks that hangs out there when you guys moan about not getting into the final 4 in 2016... you went onto lose your bowl game and didn't validate how great you thought you were.
Yes, because getting into an otherwise meaningless bowl has the same implications as playing in the first round of the playoffs. Oh yeah, and matchups don't matter, all opponents have equal strengths and weaknesses.
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Probably would have scored a TD against Clemson though (OSU sure validated their selection by tossing up a goose egg in the CFP....SMH).
Did you actually watch that bowl game, pitt fan who just registered here to say this?
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