How to fix playoffs? According to this article, change composition

[canuckhal]

of committee.

"Eliminate former coaches and current administrators from the committee and fill it with former NFL scouts and personnel folks and allow them to objectively decide the best four teams."

I don't believe that this would fix anything. Not sure if some of these writers are just stupid or just need to make a deadline, but certainly they don't think things through. The problem from a competition stand-point is that college football at the moment is run through two/a few teams.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...om&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

 

[2020 is Our Year]

The problem is Georgia should have been the 3 seed and pretty much everyone knows it. There's no way to fix that because whomever is selecting the teams will care too much about the record. College football is pretty much the only collegiate sport where record trumps everything else in the polls. Unless you're a G5 team then you're discarded no matter what

 

[AWS1022]

of committee.

"Eliminate former coaches and current administrators from the committee and fill it with former NFL scouts and personnel folks and allow them to objectively decide the best four teams."

I don't believe that this would fix anything. Not sure if some of these writers are just stupid or just need to make a deadline, but certainly they don't think things through. The problem from a competition stand-point is that college football at the moment is run through two/a few teams.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...om&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

Make a conference championship be a requirement and let the conferences figure out how they’re going to determine their champion. That takes the subjectivity out of it. Yes there may be an occasional upset team that doesn’t belong there....but so what? It will end up being a blowout much like the games are now with the “deserving” teams being in there.

 

[LurkerLazarus]

It doesn't matter how many teams are in the playoffs. The top 2 or 3 teams are still light-years ahead of everybody else.

 

[2020 is Our Year]

It doesn't matter how many teams are in the playoffs. The top 2 or 3 teams are still light-years ahead of everybody else.

True but at least Alabama, Clemson & Georgia could be tested before playing for the title game. It's more difficult to play solid teams week after week. Something Clemson never does in the ACC.

Honestly, the fact we'd have some decent games in the early rounds make expansion worth it.

 

[bdgan]

The problem from a competition stand-point is that college football at the moment is run through two/a few teams.

Team recruiting rankings 2016-2019 to date:

Alabama 1, 1, 7, 1
Clemson 6, 22, 8, 5
Georgia 9, 3, 1, 2
OSU 3, 2, 2, 22 (will go up)
Oklahoma 6, 7, 8, 6

 

[BBrown]

The problem is Georgia should have been the 3 seed and pretty much everyone knows it. There's no way to fix that because whomever is selecting the teams will care too much about the record. College football is pretty much the only collegiate sport where record trumps everything else in the polls. Unless you're a G5 team then you're discarded no matter what

Sorry I disagree. The SEC title game means something or should. You don’t get to lose your way into the playoff.

 

[2020 is Our Year]

Sorry I disagree. The SEC title game means something or should. You don’t get to lose your way into the playoff.

We all acknowledge Georgia wins the Big XII, Big Ten and Pac XII, right? Maybe the ACC. So, because they're in a conference with Bama they should have to beat them to make it instead of playing Pitt, Northwestern or Texas to try to earn that right? How does that make sense?

If conferences were created equal I'd agree with you but, again, no sport requires a team to win a conference to make the playoff. In basketball, should all the teams that lose in their conference tournament be out? Should they not get 1 seeds?

 

[Cowbell Man]

It doesn’t matter who is on the committee. It will be subjective and eye test.

 

[BBrown]

We all acknowledge Georgia wins the Big XII, Big Ten and Pac XII, right? Maybe the ACC. So, because they're in a conference with Bama they should have to beat them to make it instead of playing Pitt, Northwestern or Texas to try to earn that right? How does that make sense?

If conferences were created equal I'd agree with you but, again, no sport requires a team to win a conference to make the playoff. In basketball, should all the teams that lose in their conference tournament be out? Should they not get 1 seeds?

Maybe they win, who knows funny things happen see the 1986 Fiesta bowl.
Everyone ASSumed Michy would win the B1G, how'd that work out?
There are always ebbs and flows in conf. divisions.
And since you brought up bball, which I dont' agree with the comparison at all but you brought it up. Do you think the team that loses the "playin" game should still get to the big dance?
Stop going by "eye test", results matter, especially when 1 of those results is the final game of the season.
If Conf. games aren't going to count then get rid of them.
Next get rid of the cronyism on the Selection Crew.
Bottom line is that the SEC game was the quarter-final game, Georgia lost. Sucks for them but they lost you don't lose and get to continue playing.

 

[canuckhal]

It doesn't matter how many teams are in the playoffs. The top 2 or 3 teams are still light-years ahead of everybody else.

Correct. You start with identifying the issues and then seeing if you want to fix them.

Open recruiting across the county (free agency)--probably don't want to fix. Depending on how it was done, might create more competitive teams but could lead to geographical differences.
Resource differences across conferences and teams--probably don't want to address revenues, but can try to limit the ever expanding spending.
Limit staff--this would actually be fairly easy. Put an end to the unlimited off-field staff.
Force Saban to retire--this might actually be the best solution.

 

[BBrown]

Correct. You start with identifying the issues and then seeing if you want to fix them.

Open recruiting across the county (free agency)--probably don't want to fix. Depending on how it was done, might create more competitive teams but could lead to geographical differences.
Resource differences across conferences and teams--probably don't want to address revenues, but can try to limit the ever expanding spending.
Limit staff--this would actually be fairly easy. Put an end to the unlimited off-field staff.
Force Saban to retire--this might actually be the best solution.

I think you hit upon something. How is this different than the years before the 85 man limit roster? IMO its even more lopsided, except now you have knowledgeable "coaches" breaking down everything the teams on the upcoming schedule do.
Its a huge advantage.

 

[roswelllion]

True but at least Alabama, Clemson & Georgia could be tested before playing for the title game. It's more difficult to play solid teams week after week. Something Clemson never does in the ACC.

Honestly, the fact we'd have some decent games in the early rounds make expansion worth it.

Bama and Clemson smoked the 3 and 4 teams on a neutral site. Most scenario's have the first round at the home field of the higher ranked. Why would 7-8 playing at Bama and Clemson be more entertaining. So we are expanding so 3vs 7 and 4 vs 5 are entertaining??
Secondly all this hype about Georgia needs more investigation IMO. They are avery good team but in my view are ranked appropriately. Their appeal is based on how close they LOST to Alabama.
They played an atrocious OOC schedule and got smoked by 20 point against LSU.

 

[fastlax16]

True but at least Alabama, Clemson & Georgia could be tested before playing for the title game. It's more difficult to play solid teams week after week. Something Clemson never does in the ACC.

Honestly, the fact we'd have some decent games in the early rounds make expansion worth it.

Uga was tested before the playoff. They failed.

 

[Woodpecker]

Sorry I disagree. The SEC title game means something or should. You don’t get to lose your way into the playoff.

Well, except for last year.

 

[canuckhal]

Bama and Clemson smoked the 3 and 4 teams on a neutral site. Most scenario's have the first round at the home field of the higher ranked. Why would 7-8 playing at Bama and Clemson be more entertaining. So we are expanding so 3vs 7 and 4 vs 5 are entertaining??
Secondly all this hype about Georgia needs more investigation IMO. They are avery good team but in my view are ranked appropriately. Their appeal is based on how close they LOST to Alabama.
They played an atrocious OOC schedule and got smoked by 20 point against LSU.

It might not be more entertaining. But the players decide it. Make all teams go through one another on the field.

Franklin was on the right track when he talked about differences among conferences and scheduling. B10 plays 9 conference games, no lower divisions, and has a conference championship. Heck, ND is not even in a conference, plays the academies every year, with no conference championship. SEC plays 8 conference games and schedules against lower divisions.

If the regular season is going to have these differences built-in and the "committee" isn't going to take them into account, then you can't leave out the each P-5 conference champion. The NCAA could fix this if they wanted to or the conferences could fix it if they wanted to.

 

[roswelllion]

It doesn't matter how many teams are in the playoffs. The top 2 or 3 teams are still light-years ahead of everybody else.

All this talk about expansion baffles me. Like it or not it is pretty clear we have the best two teams in the title game. [as it should be] 1 and 2 clobbered 3 and 4 on neutral sites, why would having them play even lower ranked teams at home be more entertaining?
The only reason that I have heard that makes sense is if you want to bolster each conference by including an auto bid to the CC winners. NOT to help identify the best college team.

 

[roswelllion]

The problem is Georgia should have been the 3 seed and pretty much everyone knows it. There's no way to fix that because whomever is selecting the teams will care too much about the record. College football is pretty much the only collegiate sport where record trumps everything else in the polls. Unless you're a G5 team then you're discarded no matter what

"Georgia should have been 3 seed and everyone knows it" - disagree based only on a close loss to Alabama. Crappy OOC schedule, blow out loss to LSU. So they lose the SEC title game in a close one so they get a redo? Not for me
"College football is the only sport where record trumps everything" - why is that a bad thing?
"unless your G5" - legit beef IMO