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I like James

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Consistently wins 9 - 10 games and gets into a quality bowl game. Unfair to evaluate him against schools with BIG NIL $$$. Read OSU had 20 M spent on this roster, Oregon has a sugar daddy, Michigan has Ellison possibly the second wealthiest person in the country. Texas and Texas A&M have oil wells, don't know where Alabama gets its money. Miami had a big time booster but he may be in jail. Florida reneged on an NIL deal, and they fell below .500 finally barely topping it this year.

To me James is a positive representative for the school.
 
I like him too. But the game against SMU is the game of his career. He has the rep of losing the big games. That is why PSU is getting little respect by the TV networks and talking heads. while SMU isn't technically a big game in terms of the opponent's ranking, a loss to SMU at home would be a disaster for him. And probably rightly so.

Big game. Big BIG game for him and PSU.
 
Consistently wins 9 - 10 games and gets into a quality bowl game. Unfair to evaluate him against schools with BIG NIL $$$. Read OSU had 20 M spent on this roster, Oregon has a sugar daddy, Michigan has Ellison possibly the second wealthiest person in the country. Texas and Texas A&M have oil wells, don't know where Alabama gets its money. Miami had a big time booster but he may be in jail. Florida reneged on an NIL deal, and they fell below .500 finally barely topping it this year.

To me James is a positive representative for the school.
From a University standpoint, he's doing good things. I wish he would get a better handle on the ebb and flow of games because he seems to make calls that are questionable at critical moments. He keeps his players in good standing in the university and community and quickly handles off campus issues. These are all good.
 
Consistently wins 9 - 10 games and gets into a quality bowl game. Unfair to evaluate him against schools with BIG NIL $$$. Read OSU had 20 M spent on this roster, Oregon has a sugar daddy, Michigan has Ellison possibly the second wealthiest person in the country. Texas and Texas A&M have oil wells, don't know where Alabama gets its money. Miami had a big time booster but he may be in jail. Florida reneged on an NIL deal, and they fell below .500 finally barely topping it this year.

To me James is a positive representative for the school.
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Avenue Capital Group Chair, CEO & co-founder Marc Lasry recently spoke with Turner Sports' Dave Briggs at the Westport Library about the potential introduction of private equity into the college sports space and said it is “phenomenal opportunity, and I think what you’re gonna see is you’re gonna see a number of schools selling their teams.” Lasry said, “To folks like us ... we’re bidding on a couple teams ... what we would do is buy 51% of the team.” He added a “bunch of these programs they’re making $50-$100 million off of their football program, off of their basketball program.” Lasry: “One of the things they wanna do is sort of say okay great my football program makes $100 million, we’ll sell 50% that’s $50 million do 10 multiple on that, 15 multiple that’s $500, $750 million that’ll come for them to sort of fix different things at the university. So you’re gonna start seeing more of that.” Lasry noted what the schools need is “money for NIL, but you can’t go out and raise money for NIL because that’s not a deduction.” He believes the private equity money could be a good stop-gap (X, 12/7).
 
Consistently wins 9 - 10 games and gets into a quality bowl game. Unfair to evaluate him against schools with BIG NIL $$$. Read OSU had 20 M spent on this roster, Oregon has a sugar daddy, Michigan has Ellison possibly the second wealthiest person in the country. Texas and Texas A&M have oil wells, don't know where Alabama gets its money. Miami had a big time booster but he may be in jail. Florida reneged on an NIL deal, and they fell below .500 finally barely topping it this year.

To me James is a positive representative for the school.
Most of our key players were recruited BEFORE NIL (Allar, Singleton, Warren, Carter, King, Reed).

6 of the top rated players in the BiG championship game were from PSU.

Wait until the players from our 6th rated class of 2022 are gone and we have to replace them with players from classed ranked ~ 15th. Then you might have a better argument.
 
Most of our key players were recruited BEFORE NIL (Allar, Singleton, Warren, Carter, King, Reed).

6 of the top rated players in the BiG championship game were from PSU.

Wait until the players from our 6th rated class of 2022 are gone and we have to replace them with players from classed ranked ~ 15th. Then you might have a better argument.
I don't care what the number is, I like the players who make up this 2025 class, and the 2026 class is off to a great start. Also, if the UNC qb flips to PSU, which I'm not counting on, the 2025 class will be in the top 10. Finally, you can't judge a recruiting class anymore by the actual recruits, but also have to account for the portal transfers, and I suspect that PSU is going to do well with that after this season because of our success this season.
 
I don't care what the number is, I like the players who make up this 2025 class, and the 2026 class is off to a great start. Also, if the UNC qb flips to PSU, which I'm not counting on, the 2025 class will be in the top 10. Finally, you can't judge a recruiting class anymore by the actual recruits, but also have to account for the portal transfers, and I suspect that PSU is going to do well with that after this season because of our success this season.
I don't know our NIL situation compared to others but I believe PSU had to use a lot of what they had to retain existing players like Allar, Singleton, Warren, and Carter. Once those players leave we might have more $$ available to pursue players from the portal.
 
I don't care what the number is, I like the players who make up this 2025 class
Currently ranked 16th by Rivals behind Oregon, OSU, & Michigan. Just barely ahead of USC, Wisconsin, and Nebraska.

PSU needs to be top 10 make the playoffs. Let's hope we can land a top WR & LB in the portal.
 
Currently ranked 16th by Rivals behind Oregon, OSU, & Michigan. Just barely ahead of USC, Wisconsin, and Nebraska.

PSU needs to be top 10 make the playoffs. Let's hope we can land a top WR & LB in the portal.
Does that ranking account for the Olesh flip?
 
I like him too. But the game against SMU is the game of his career. He has the rep of losing the big games. That is why PSU is getting little respect by the TV networks and talking heads. while SMU isn't technically a big game in terms of the opponent's ranking, a loss to SMU at home would be a disaster for him. And probably rightly so.

Big game. Big BIG game for him and PSU.

This is another only a big game if they lose situation I fear.
 
Currently ranked 16th by Rivals behind Oregon, OSU, & Michigan. Just barely ahead of USC, Wisconsin, and Nebraska.

PSU needs to be top 10 make the playoffs. Let's hope we can land a top WR & LB in the portal.
So do you believe that every program that has a top 10 recruiting class automatically is going to qualify for the playoffs? That’s just not going to happen. Several of these top 10 classes will be ripped apart in less than a year by transfers, injuries, etc. On top of that, these kids need to be developed, and some of these programs aren’t great at that.
 
So do you believe that every program that has a top 10 recruiting class automatically is going to qualify for the playoffs? That’s just not going to happen. Several of these top 10 classes will be ripped apart in less than a year by transfers, injuries, etc. On top of that, these kids need to be developed, and some of these programs aren’t great at that.
That's true but odds are better when you land better recruits.

PSU is in the playoff largely because of their 6th ranked recruiting class.
 
That's true but odds are better when you land better recruits.

PSU is in the playoff largely because of their 6th ranked recruiting class.
So your criticism is that we wouldn't even be here if we didn't have the 6th ranked recruiting class? We're holding this against the coach?

We'd have been in a 12 team playoff more years than not with Franklin.
 
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Currently ranked 16th by Rivals behind Oregon, OSU, & Michigan. Just barely ahead of USC, Wisconsin, and Nebraska.

PSU needs to be top 10 make the playoffs. Let's hope we can land a top WR & LB in the portal.
2025 is a really good class. 18 4-stars which is second in the Big Ten.
 
Currently ranked 16th by Rivals behind Oregon, OSU, & Michigan. Just barely ahead of USC, Wisconsin, and Nebraska.

PSU needs to be top 10 make the playoffs. Let's hope we can land a top WR & LB in the portal.
Forget "rankings" for a moment and bear with me. There are only three outcomes from a recruiting class. The roster talent is improved, the roster talent is diluted or the roster talent remains about the same. That's it. The key is the post season level of talent at the beginning of the recruiting cycle
 
Consistently wins 9 - 10 games and gets into a quality bowl game. Unfair to evaluate him against schools with BIG NIL $$$. Read OSU had 20 M spent on this roster, Oregon has a sugar daddy, Michigan has Ellison possibly the second wealthiest person in the country. Texas and Texas A&M have oil wells, don't know where Alabama gets its money. Miami had a big time booster but he may be in jail. Florida reneged on an NIL deal, and they fell below .500 finally barely topping it this year.

To me James is a positive representative for the school.
Two things can be true at once.

I like James. He is excellent at many aspects of being a CFB HC.

For $8M, I also want him to be better at actual football coaching. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect better situational decisions in-game and not rely on some computer-generated chart as gospel for every situation and opponent.
 
Consistently wins 9 - 10 games and gets into a quality bowl game. Unfair to evaluate him against schools with BIG NIL $$$. Read OSU had 20 M spent on this roster, Oregon has a sugar daddy, Michigan has Ellison possibly the second wealthiest person in the country. Texas and Texas A&M have oil wells, don't know where Alabama gets its money. Miami had a big time booster but he may be in jail. Florida reneged on an NIL deal, and they fell below .500 finally barely topping it this year.

To me James is a positive representative for the school.
OSU let that figure out. I would not be shocked if we found out that teams like Oregon, Texas, TAMU and a few others DWARF that figure. Oregon has their sugar daddy (Phil Knight - NIKE) and both Texas and TAMU have all that endless oil money they can draw on. I read - a few days ago - that the 2 Texas QBs (Ewers and Manning) are pulling in somewhere between 8 to 10 million together this year. God only knows what the rest of the team is pulling in. Those teams just aren't releasing figures
 
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