I love it that if PSU wins out then

[johnmpsu]

Ohio State is OUT of the championship game no matter what they do. No chance for a BIG title, no chance for a playoff spot, and no chance for a national championship.

Yes, I know that theoretically they could still get into the playoff but I'm expecting the committee to put a lot of value on WINNING your conference.

 

[Ian]

If PSU and O$U wins out, PSU to B1G championship game against Wisky but O$U to the final four! At this point, there will be no 2 loss teams in the final four. If PSU wins B1G championship, it's off to the Rose Bowl!

 

[uPBRmeASAP]

Ohio State is going to be in the top 4 come Tuesday. If they beat a top 10 Michigan team to close the season, they won't get bumped out IMO.

I think any scenario with PSU in playoff involves UW and Clemson losing again so two B1G teams represent.

 

[YorkCoLion]

The butt hurt on the Ozone forums is palpable. So many posters there feel it's unfair that a 2 loss PSU team may pass them in the playoff rankings

Take care of business the next to weeks and let the chips fall where they may!

 

[fairfaxlion2]

PSU should not be in the playoff; all of us can see that. The playoff discussion is irrelevant and PSU should pay no attention to it. Winning the B1G East and getting to the B1G title game should be the only goal right now - it would be an awesome accomplishment for Franklin and the players.

 

[PSUFBFAN]

Ohio State is OUT of the championship game no matter what they do. No chance for a BIG title, no chance for a playoff spot, and no chance for a national championship.

Yes, I know that theoretically they could still get into the playoff but I'm expecting the committee to put a lot of value on WINNING your conference.

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[pandaczar12]

Ohio State is OUT of the championship game no matter what they do. No chance for a BIG title, no chance for a playoff spot, and no chance for a national championship.

Yes, I know that theoretically they could still get into the playoff but I'm expecting the committee to put a lot of value on WINNING your conference.

This should scare us all. The referines will not let us win out.

 

[sluggo72]

PSU should not be in the playoff; all of us can see that. The playoff discussion is irrelevant and PSU should pay no attention to it. Winning the B1G East and getting to the B1G title game should be the only goal right now - it would be an awesome accomplishment for Franklin and the players.

why ? If PSU wins out, their resume is as good as anyone, and being the B1G champ should put them in there, a lot of football to be played.

 

[AWS1022]

why ? If PSU wins out, their resume is as good as anyone, and being the B1G champ should put them in there, a lot of football to be played.

Two losses make it not as good as anyone's.

 

[bjf1991]

The butt hurt on the Ozone forums is palpable. So many posters there feel it's unfair that a 2 loss PSU team may pass them in the playoff rankings

Take care of business the next to weeks and let the chips fall where they may!

There is no Fing way that OSU does not control their own destiny wrt the MNC.

They will be #2 this week, and will remain #2 if they win out

Yesterday was WONDERFUL for their MNC situation
If anyone in Buckeye Land is moaning or consternating, they are dumber than 21 (well, maybe not dumbER, but at least in the game)

 

[bjf1991]

Ohio State is OUT of the championship game no matter what they do. No chance for a BIG title, no chance for a playoff spot, and no chance for a national championship.

Yes, I know that theoretically they could still get into the playoff but I'm expecting the committee to put a lot of value on WINNING your conference.

^^^ That may be the dumbest post of the week ^^^

 

[johnmpsu]

There is no Fing way that OSU does not control their own destiny wrt the MNC.

They will be #2 this week, and will remain #2 if they win out

Yesterday was WONDERFUL for their MNC situation
If anyone in Buckeye Land is moaning or consternating, they are dumber than 21 (well, maybe not dumbER, but at least in the game)

Why. If PSU wins out Ohio State is out of the BIG championship. Do you really believe they will be chosen for the playoff without winning the conference? That would be a complete farce.

 

[klemman]

No butt hurt. PSU beat the Buckeyes and if it the N. Lions win out and it is between those two teams PSU should go. But there's still an argument for the Buckeyes to go as well.

There is also an argument that if both the Bucks and Nit. Lions win out, or if the Bucks win out and Wisky wins the Conf. Championship Game, OSU could be in the playoffs.

I do acknowledge that when you try to make a point by starting with "...there's an argument..." The odds are against you and you are probably on the outside looking in.

But there's still some football to be played which could clarify things. The reality is that OSU will probably be ranked #2 in the playoff poll this week, and will remain there or even move to number on if they win out. How far back they would then fall for not partaking in The Conference Championship Games would be the deciding factor. There is no hard fast rule that says a team needs to win the conference or if you win the conference you are automatically included. It will be interesting.

 

[AWS1022]

Why. If PSU wins out Ohio State is out of the BIG championship. Do you really believe they will be chosen for the playoff without winning the conference? That would be a complete farce.

Depends on what happens in the other conferences.

 

[johnmpsu]

No butt hurt. PSU beat the Buckeyes and if it the N. Lions win out and it is between those two teams PSU should go. But there's still an argument for the Buckeyes to go as well.

There is also an argument that if both the Bucks and Nit. Lions win out, or if the Bucks win out and Wisky wins the Conf. Championship Game, OSU could be in the playoffs.

I do acknowledge that when you try to make a point by starting with "...there's an argument..." The odds are against you and you are probably on the outside looking in.

But there's still some football to be played which could clarify things. The reality is that OSU will probably be ranked #2 in the playoff poll this week, and will remain there or even move to number on if they win out. How far back they would then fall for not partaking in The Conference Championship Games would be the deciding factor. There is no hard fast rule that says a team needs to win the conference or if you win the conference you are automatically included. It will be interesting.

No telling what will happen. Even as a conference winner PSU might not get in to the playoff. I could live with that disappointment. I'm just a believer that you have to at a minimum win your conference to be considered. At least I'm consistent. I also hate baseball and football wildcards in pro sports. Lucky losers should never have a shot at a championship. The season should matter. Winning should matter. Yes, I know, unrealistic.

 

[fairfaxlion2]

why ? If PSU wins out, their resume is as good as anyone, and being the B1G champ should put them in there, a lot of football to be played.

The only time I remember a two loss team getting real consideration for a national title game was Oregon (or Colorado?) in 2001. And they didn't get there. It's just not going to happen. there will be at least four one loss teams.

 

[bjf1991]

No telling what will happen. Even as a conference winner PSU might not get in to the playoff. I could live with that disappointment. I'm just a believer that you have to at a minimum win your conference to be considered. At least I'm consistent. I also hate baseball and football wildcards in pro sports. Lucky losers should never have a shot at a championship. The season should matter. Winning should matter. Yes, I know, unrealistic.

If OSU wins out:
They are not only "in" the Final Four, they are in as the #2 seed

The chances that they would not be the #2 seed are about one in 1,000
The chances that they wouldn't even be in the Final Four, are about 1,000,000 times less than that

List four teams that would outpoll them?????? Without laughing.

PSU winning out would only HELP their Final Four situation - because it would eliminate any risk, to them, of possibly losing the B1G Championship game

Good grief




In fact, despite all of Saturday's craziness - - - what a great night to have free to peruse the tube!!! - - - - there were 5 teams that came into Saturday controlling their own destiny wrt the "Final Four" ..........Bama, UM, OSU, Clemson, and UW

This morning?
Bama, OSU, UM, Clemson still control their own destiny.......and, depending on the relative rankings of UW and Lousville, UW may still as well (since we know either UM or OSU has to lose one.....though I think the committee MAY drop UW below both Lousville and Wisky.......but UW still has a couple nice showcase games - - WSU and whoever they would face in the PAC Game)

So - after all that - very likely NOTHING has changed wrt the Final Four situation - - - except that a group of teams went from having some slack (UM, Clemson, UW in particular), to now knowing they have ZERO room for error moving forward

Still - - - what a wonderful Saturday (and Thursday, right Dukie?) for college football watching

 

[PSUcup1]

The only time I remember a two loss team getting real consideration for a national title game was Oregon (or Colorado?) in 2001. And they didn't get there. It's just not going to happen. there will be at least four one loss teams.

LSU under Miles was a 2 loss MNC

 

[psuro]

PSU should not be in the playoff; all of us can see that. The playoff discussion is irrelevant and PSU should pay no attention to it. Winning the B1G East and getting to the B1G title game should be the only goal right now - it would be an awesome accomplishment for Franklin and the players.

The PSU football team is not paying attention to it. The fans and media are.

 

[klemman]

The butt hurt on the Ozone forums is palpable. So many posters there feel it's unfair that a 2 loss PSU team may pass them in the playoff rankings

Take care of business the next to weeks and let the chips fall where they may!

No telling what will happen. Even as a conference winner PSU might not get in to the playoff. I could live with that disappointment. I'm just a believer that you have to at a minimum win your conference to be considered. At least I'm consistent. I also hate baseball and football wildcards in pro sports. Lucky losers should never have a shot at a championship. The season should matter. Winning should matter. Yes, I know, unrealistic.

I won't argue with your belief that winning a conference should be a minimum requirement. It's certainly legitimate. But it was never set as a bylaw for the playoff committee. It does have to be a unique situation. If Michigan, Clemson, and Washington won yesterday and though the end of the season then regardless of whether OSU was looked as one of the 4 best teams in the nation they would be on the outside similar to last season.

If Michigan lost as they did but Clemson and Washington didn't and won out along with PSU, then the playoff roster would be those Clemson, Washington, PSU, and Bama.

But that didn't happen and there's more football to be played and chaos to ensue.

 

[PSU Lifer]

You think after all that this program has gone through with shady officiating over the years that some of you would realize that perhaps the biggest refereeing travesty is coming to State College on Sat., Nov. 26.
There is no way this team will be allowed to win.

 

[jabba2]

You think after all that this program has gone through with shady officiating over the years that some of you would realize that perhaps the biggest refereeing travesty is coming to State College on Sat., Nov. 26.
There is no way this team will be allowed to win.

Except they beat OSU on some close calls that refs easily could have influenced.

 

[CDLionFL]

There is no chance in Hades that OSU gets left out of the Playoff if they win out. No chance.

And with Clemson losing yesterday, it sets up a situation where Louisville could win out and not get to the ACC title game and THEY could get into the Playoff as well.